Debate - what vices are a no no for you?

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Was having a chat with a friend of mine (v good pro rider) about buying horses and which vices are a no no and which wouldn't bother is that is... I hate wind sucking but it wouldn't necessarily stop me buying ( price adjusted of course) we both agreed on this one but on board I hate spooking and rearing but a bit of a buck never bothers me.., she wasn't put off by a rearer...

So what about u - what's the worst vice and which 'aren't on the absolutely not' list.
 
At this point in time I wouldn't feel confident enough to buy a rearer or something whose bucks almost launch you into orbit. Rushing off/a lack of breaks is also a no no for me right now as I'm still getting my confidence back after a fall from a horse that did this.
 
Don't mind horses that rear depending on my assessment of why they do it.
Don't like horses that buck , can't abide lazy horses .
Would never buy a horse bad in traffic .
Also would not touch bad with farrier , windsuckers and crib biters or weavers would buy a moderately bad box walker but not a horse that would not be stabled or one very bad to catch.
 
Rearing is my big no-no. I am rapidly coming to a similar conclusion about bucking mind you... getting boring!! also as i keep my horses at livery I would not have one with any stable vices, as i might struggle to keep it at livery. Although I often wonder if some of the horses i see advertised as 'seen to crib occasionally' would do so with proper management....
 
I can't actually think of any vice offhand which would put me off buying a horse that I might otherwise really want. I'm in a pretty good position of being able to keep horses in whatever way will help their mental well being. I've had a fair few horses arrive with vices but they've all overcome them in time. Time, I have plenty of that and I don't mind working through any problems a horse may have under saddle.
 
Hate bucking , kickers , biters ..would rather have a nappy or rearer..than one that was wired / runs on nevous energy/ bucking type :)
 
Rearing, bucking or bolting would be deal breakers for me. Not too bothered about wind sucking, weaving etc as they are managable usually with correct stable management. Wouldn't take something that nastily bit or kicked.
Generally stable vices don't bother me but I'm not an experienced rider and not very confident so wouldn't take anything that would require remedial schooling.
 
A biter. i got badly bitten when I was a kid, by a pony known to be a biter and should not have been on a kids yard. I was so embarrassed I hid the bite (and the pain) from everyone, till my mum noticed I had a chunk out of my shoulder.

never again.
 
Jesstickle said:
If it won't be caught it isn't for me!
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Okay I have to admit that is a bugbear of mine lol; rarely a longterm problem but I have had a few who have been beggars to catch in the beginning. We probably deal with them a little differently over here than you guys do in the UK so it doesn't tend to remain a problem for too long.
 
Won't buy anything that won't tie, can deal with the "normal" idiosyncrasies such as napping, bucking, etc. that can be sorted out by proper riding. Don't mind stereotypies either (stable vices, as was), if they are caused by poor management. But these days I am of the mind; "why buy a problem?" and tend to just buy the easy going ones that have life sussed; over 8, right colour/height/movement/temperament, and so have a blissful, problem-free life, mostly.
 
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Spring Feather said:
Okay I have to admit that is a bugbear of mine lol; rarely a longterm problem but I have had a few who have been beggars to catch in the beginning. We probably deal with them a little differently over here than you guys do in the UK so it doesn't tend to remain a problem for too long.
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I had one on loan and she was the nicest horse but a total cowbag to catch and it drove me literally insane. I would stand there raging, shaking my bucket of feed, the colour of a beetroot and I am not going there again. As a kid with a pony it was bad enough, as a grown up with places to be it was beyond infuriating!

Interested to hear other approaches to it though :) if it won't start a hho war obviously ;)
 
Rearing, bolting, definitely not. I've had a couple of bad catchers and that hasn't bothered too much me really, been a short term issue with the ones I've had.
Don't like weavers, windsuckers, cribbers, any of that crack. Yes I could deal with them, I just don't want to. I'm with Cortez in why buy a problem, nowadays I will just leave the problem horses to the people that can be ar$ed with them, and buy something easy going that's not going to stress me out, got enough stress :biggrin3:
 
This one I have been thinking about with losing dizzy. As much as I love her I won't have another horse with her vices. Won't tie up, awful for the farrier, rears, naps severely and hates being groomed. A lot of these were down to the pain she has been in but they have destroyed my confidence so I will not have another horse with these vices.
 
Cold backed / rearing is a definite no for me.
Crib/wind sucking wouldn't put me off if it was absolutely perfect in every other way.
Sweet itch - a real deal breaker for me.
 
Spring Feather said:
Basically withdraw all privileges. Make horse totally dependent on you. Put on nylon halter with tied nylon long rope hanging on the ground. Leave in pen alone. Tough love I'm afraid but it works.
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Ha, that is deffo enough to start a hho war :p

I guess it relies on you having a pen to begin with, a field full of grass isn't going to work very well!
 
My money would be spent on only a horse with no known vices, there so much to choose from if I way buying I'd not purchase a horse that the owners knew had a vice.
 
Yard vices/habits I wont have are:
cribbers
door bangers
fence runners

The last of those is a right bloody pain for anyone.
If you havent had one - add that to your list if purchasing.
If you are a YO & never had one - ask the question before a livery arrives...........
 
Rearers and true bolters I would avoid like the plague.

Am also not that keen on horses that are difficult to catch, can't live with others, crib biter/windsucker but wouldn't completely rule them out.

I would be very cautious of a horse that wasn't great in traffic or wouldn't hack alone, it wouldn't put me off completely but I would want to be fairly sure that the problem could be overcome.

I always thought I wouldn't want something that bucks but I seem to have bought one (although I didn't know it at the time lol!)....
[video=youtube_share;aDPpiLO4kcQ]http://youtu.be/aDPpiLO4kcQ[/video]

She does it without a 'reason' too!
 
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Spring Feather said:
Basically withdraw all privileges. Make horse totally dependent on you. Put on nylon halter with tied nylon long rope hanging on the ground. Leave in pen alone. Tough love I'm afraid but it works.
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Sounds like a decent method although I'd only leave in a leather headcollar due to the unbreakable nature of most nylon halters.
Our guys are brilliant to catch and it has a lot to with we spent a winter litterally driving to the field, feeding and then going away as they could be hit and miss before that. (I had broken both ankles so my sister was caring for them all on her own). They pretty much come running when we call now but when they come in they always come to either a feed or a haynet so it's pleasent for them to come.
 
3Beasties said:
Rearers and true bolters I would avoid like the plague.

Am also not that keen on horses that are difficult to catch, can't live with others, crib biter/windsucker but wouldn't completely rule them out.

I would be very cautious of a horse that wasn't great in traffic or wouldn't hack alone, it wouldn't put me off completely but I would want to be fairly sure that the problem could be overcome.

I always thought I wouldn't want something that bucks but I seem to have bought one (although I didn't know it at the time lol!)....
[video=youtube_share;aDPpiLO4kcQ]http://youtu.be/aDPpiLO4kcQ[/video]

She does it without a 'reason' too!
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But she does have a reason here: she's just stung her back legs on the pole she's had down and doesn't like it. And that's not really a buck........
 
amymay said:
Ah, so not so different from over 'here' then. Just common sense.
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Hmm I don't know many over your way who would leave a long nylon rope knotted to a nylon halter and leave the horse like that for weeks. At least I've never seen anyone on here do that and I've seen tons of posts where people berate others for leaving nylon headcollars on in the field. I've not seen anyone keep a horse in a dry lot pen either over there, although maybe many do?
 
Cortez said:
But she does have a reason here: she's just stung her back legs on the pole she's had down and doesn't like it. And that's not really a buck........
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I never said she didn't have a reason to there....I said she also does it when she doesn't have a reason!

What would you call it if not a buck?
 
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