DIY yards - BRING IN TIME

Sounds like she is playing mind games with you op if no other decent reason for her not being able to bring in. Can you throw the horse a slice of hay to keep it occupied when you bring yours in so it can stay out until she comes. If YO complains tell them to bring it in, they need to take responsibility too.
 
Gingerwitch said:
I would put my two on catch in for a week and see what happens - its an easy way of diffusing the situation and not puttuing yourself in the fireing line
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You mean leave them in? It is another way of looking at it... Not sure I'd be prepared to leave mine in to make a point (if I were on DIY) but it could work?
 
Why not leave one of yours out and then she can bring that in with hers ? If you and the do this every other day you are both sharing the work.
 
Lizzie66 said:
Why not leave one of yours out and then she can bring that in with hers ? If you and the do this every other day you are both sharing the work.
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because presumably OP wants to work/groom etc her horse in that time not leave it in the field.
 
I'm kind of astounded that some people still seem to think that OP is the one in the wrong here!

I am on a DIY yard and have a young horse who (luckily) lives in with the YOs horses. I also have a pretty intense job, that means I don't get to the yard until late. Simple solution - I turn the YOs horses out (very early!) in the morning, they chuck mine in the stable at night - everyone is happy as it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. As an aside, the yard also has a clause in their terms that say their insurance is invalidated if liveries are injured while handling horses that aren't their own... However, even without that, I would NOT expect another livery to bring mine in regularly - for a start, I'm fairly fussy about who handles her as I don't want her learning bad habits. What I WOULD do (and have done) is make proper arrangements for MY horse to be brought in, in the event that it looks like she would be left out alone, rather than trusting to luck.

This is exactly what the OPs field sharer should be doing - making arrangements for HER horse, that she keeps on DIY livery to be brought in by the yard staff rather than expecting everyone else to do it for free. If you know (as I do) that you can't get to the yard when everyone else does, then you make alternative arrangements. You don't rely on the rapidly decreasing good will of other liveries...who may not be as time rich as some of you appear to be! :)

Incidentally - can you imagine the alternative posting?
"Dear HHO - I'm on a DIY livery yard but my job means that I can't get to the yard until after the other liveries have all brought their horses in. Because there's a rule that no horse can be left on it's own, my field sharer has to make an extra trip to the field to bring mine in. She recently mentioned she wasn't happy with doing this every day, but even though the yard provide extra support services, I have no intention of making arrangements for them to do this as the 'no horse out alone' rule means that I don't have to..." Just how selfish does that sound?!
 
SpottyMare said:
I'm kind of astounded that some people still seem to think that OP is the one in the wrong here!

I am on a DIY yard and have a young horse who (luckily) lives in with the YOs horses. I also have a pretty intense job, that means I don't get to the yard until late. Simple solution - I turn the YOs horses out (very early!) in the morning, they chuck mine in the stable at night - everyone is happy as it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. As an aside, the yard also has a clause in their terms that say their insurance is invalidated if liveries are injured while handling horses that aren't their own... However, even without that, I would NOT expect another livery to bring mine in regularly - for a start, I'm fairly fussy about who handles her as I don't want her learning bad habits. What I WOULD do (and have done) is make proper arrangements for MY horse to be brought in, in the event that it looks like she would be left out alone, rather than trusting to luck.

This is exactly what the OPs field sharer should be doing - making arrangements for HER horse, that she keeps on DIY livery to be brought in by the yard staff rather than expecting everyone else to do it for free. If you know (as I do) that you can't get to the yard when everyone else does, then you make alternative arrangements. You don't rely on the rapidly decreasing good will of other liveries...who may not be as time rich as some of you appear to be! :)

Incidentally - can you imagine the alternative posting?
"Dear HHO - I'm on a DIY livery yard but my job means that I can't get to the yard until after the other liveries have all brought their horses in. Because there's a rule that no horse can be left on it's own, my field sharer has to make an extra trip to the field to bring mine in. She recently mentioned she wasn't happy with doing this every day, but even though the yard provide extra support services, I have no intention of making arrangements for them to do this as the 'no horse out alone' rule means that I don't have to..." Just how selfish does that sound?!
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If i were the ym i would feel like banging both of their heads together - for the £25 quid a week a horse they are probably paying they are just not worth the hassle as customers.
 
Gingerwitch said:
If i were the ym i would feel like banging both of their heads together - for the £25 quid a week a horse they are probably paying they are just not worth the hassle as customers.
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Pretty sure the YM will want to keep the two horse owner that does her own horse, minds her business and just gets on with it, agree with you though, the one that can't sort her own horse every day needs the boot.
 
BubbleDog said:
I've just moved my two to a new yard and as I have two I am able to leave them out longer without worrying but I am finding that there are a couple of people who continuously don't turn up on time and I then either have to bring their horse in or hang around waiting for them to turn up before I am able to bring my own two in. It's driving me mad. Spoke to one yesterday who said she was unable to get there by a certain time but quite honestly I really don't see why this should be my problem, and why I should continuously be getting someone else's horse in. I really don't mind the odd time or doing a prearranged favour for someone but with no arrangement in place I just think it's a bloody cheek.
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From your original post I was sympathetic, however your responses to people who have not agreed with you have changed my mind !

Some people do DIY because they prefer it and some because it is what they can afford. You moved to a yard with a pre-existing rule if you don't like the rule then find a way round it or move. You could come up earlier or later so that you aren't 2nd to last there then you will only have to bring in your own, why should your routine be more important than hers ? She may work until late, or have young children so has to wait until partner is home to look after them. If she is being deliberately awkward then yes you have a point but 5-6pm on work day is early.

Also according to your post there are two people who are regularly later than you, so on that basis its not always you to bring in, or if it is then its not for the same person.
 
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Lizzie66 said:
From your original post I was sympathetic, however your responses to people who have not agreed with you have changed my mind !

Some people do DIY because they prefer it and some because it is what they can afford. You moved to a yard with a pre-existing rule if you don't like the rule then find a way round it or move. You could come up earlier or later so that you aren't 2nd to last there then you will only have to bring in your own, why should your routine be more important than hers ? She may work until late, or have young children so has to wait until there when partner is home to look after them.

Also according to your post there are two people who are regularly later than you, so on that basis its not always you to bring in, or if it is then its not for the same person.
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Here we go again, the fact the owner might have issues getting there means it's HER problem to sort out HER issue, why should the op change her routine when the owner clearly doesn't care. I am once again astounded that people would happily change their routine for this person who can't sort her own horse out, not now and then, everyday.
 
PollyP99 said:
Pretty sure the YM will want to keep the two horse owner that does her own horse, minds her business and just gets on with it, agree with you though, the one that can't sort her own horse every day needs the boot.
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Why are you assuming the other livery can't do it ? She is unable to get there in the week before 6pm, whoopee do, lots of people who work wouldn't be able to.

The attitude coming off the OP in the last few pages of posts would make me ask her to leave pdq before the rest of the liveries decide to vacate the premises because they can't fit in with OPs requirements either.
 
PollyP99 said:
Here we go again, the fact the owner might have issues getting there means it's HER problem to sort out HER issue, why should the op change her routine when the owner clearly doesn't care. I am once again astounded that people would happily change their routine for this person who can't sort her own horse out, not now and then, everyday.
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Actually no its the OPs problem ! There is a rule in place, not a new one, one that was in place when the OP moved there RECENTLY. If OP now doesn't like the rule then that is HER problem not the other livery.

Also as I said the OP said there were a "COUPLE" of liveries who are regularly late, therefore it is not OPs problem everyday.
 
Lizzie66 said:
Why are you assuming the other livery can't do it ? She is unable to get there in the week before 6pm, whoopee do, lots of people who work wouldn't be able to.

The attitude coming off the OP in the last few pages of posts would make me ask her to leave pdq before the rest of the liveries decide to vacate the premises because they can't fit in with OPs requirements either.
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You've just said it yourself, she can't get there before 6pm, make arrangements to have horse bought in, fairly simple isn't it?

I would be embarrassed not be abusive to the op if I simply left my horse to chance at bring in. I can't get to my yard by 6 either that's my issue so I arrange cover.

Shrugs, let's all just make our horses someone else's problem and not use services offered by others, after all it must be someone else's fault if we can't get our own horse in when we know what time others do.

Is that what you truly believe?
 
Lizzie66 said:
Also as I said the OP said there were a "COUPLE" of liveries who are regularly late, therefore it is not OPs problem everyday.
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If these liveries could organise to bring their horses in between themselves then everyone would be happy :)
 
This whole thread has reminded me why I love my yard . . . three of us, four horses (well, two horses and two ponies) and we all just get on with it and help each other. It'll be a cold day in hell before I'll consider going back to a large DIY yard.

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When I had my horse on DIY livery, I knew that during the winter, I would not be able to get to the field to bring in time , so I paid for catch. The owner must know this is happening as her horse must always be in when she gets there. I don't think it's a problem if it happens occasionally but when it's every night, that's different unless you come to some arrangement with other liveries. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable.
 
reddie said:
When I had my horse on DIY livery, I knew that during the winter, I would not be able to get to the field to bring in time , so I paid for catch. The owner must know this is happening as her horse must always be in when she gets there. I don't think it's a problem if it happens occasionally but when it's every night, that's different unless you come to some arrangement with other liveries. I don't think the OP is being unreasonable.
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Me too totally agree.
 
PollyP99 said:
You've just said it yourself, she can't get there before 6pm, make arrangements to have horse bought in, fairly simple isn't it?

I would be embarrassed not be abusive to the op if I simply left my horse to chance at bring in. I can't get to my yard by 6 either that's my issue so I arrange cover.

Shrugs, let's all just make our horses someone else's problem and not use services offered by others, after all it must be someone else's fault if we can't get our own horse in when we know what time others do.

Is that what you truly believe?
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Good lord - no wonder diy is such a minefield with you and the op out there - its just ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME - who on earth would want to be on a yard with either of you.
 
Gingerwitch said:
Good lord - no wonder diy is such a minefield with you and the op out there - its just ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME - who on earth would want to be on a yard with either of you.
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I am going to ask you a couple of questions seeing as you are being so vocal. Do you bring your own horse in every day? Do you bring someone else's horse in every day (not under prior arrangement)?

It's just it seems the one commenting like you are are the type who have put the OP in the awkward situation in the first place. Forgive me if you are not, but to me it is this type of person who is ME ME ME, not the person who is bringing someone else's horse in every day with no thanks.
 
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Fides said:
I am going to ask you a couple of questions seeing as you are being so vocal. Do you bring your own horse in every day? Do you bring someone else's horse in every day (not under prior arrangement)
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I have always been mop up when on DIY, I fed a yard full of 24 horses every morn for over 10 years and as my stables were between both fields, any horse that was left somehow became my responsiblity to bring in and it was done not for the owners sake but for the horse, as i would rather waste 10 mins of my life than half an hour holding bandages onto a severed artiery whislt waiting for the vets to arrive with enough stuff to stich it back up.
 
Completely agree with you OP, there is no way another livery should be using you for free horse care when she can just pay the yard to do it. If I were her I would have sat down with you and discussed paying you/ exchanging chores and if you hadn't agreed to that paid the yard instead.

I have been in this situation a couple of times, on one occasion I ended up bringing in the horse in exchange for turn out in the mornings, on the other the lady got very angry so I went to the YO who sorted it out and it was never a problem again. I have also witnessed disasters with people bringing in other peoples horses. We used to keep ours at a busy riding school with lots of novice kids with ponies. On one occasion someone had left their fizzy wb out later and a young girl went to bring in without taking an extra headcollar. It was a long walk back so she put the headcollar on her pony and the lead rein round this fizzy horses neck....sure you can guess what happened next.

I really don't understand the attitude that you should be looking after this womans horse just because she cannot get there in time. Sure the rule says none should be left out alone but this is taking advantage of a rule. Other people who cannot get down in time to bring in due to work commitments pay for livery. This is what the livery service is there for. I agree with whoever said earlier that you wouldn't expect teachers/ other mothers to pick up your kids from school cos you couldn't get there
 
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