FfionWinnie
Well-Known Member
Wow Applecart it's one thing to disagree with a poster but that was a really nasty and unnecessary thing to say about her horse being PTS.
So its okay for you to say things to me but I can't say things to you? Bit hypocritical.The money you spend on horses is NO measure of the care they receive, spending thousands and treating them like a machine is worse than treating them fairly to start with and not having to spend thousands on treatment..................................
I really think the 2 of you need to put each other on UI.
User ignore.
Both of you make valid points but what could have been a useful thread for the OP has got totally derailed, again
Toucheuser ignore.
i know i did the right thing and i dont have to seek other peoples approval on here to be at peace with that choice.
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Well I guess I could just have him shot like you did with your horse but I am prepared to put in a bit more of an effort with mine.
No matter what the history between you too, that was totally uncalled for.
you are correct in that a few people disagreed with my observations.
fine, thats their call. so i left it. I still think i am right, and nothing anyone says will change it, thats allowable as thats life, people disagree.
..........i actually asked for your thoughts on how you would do things better but no reply which makes me think you know there isnt a better way to do it in this particular case?
so lets get back to trailers, applecart how would you train a horse that has already shown it can and will kick through the side of a lorry,not to do it? Bearing in mind this horse has traveled all over the WORLD by road and plane,and is not an inexperienced or nervy traveler just impatient. Would you risk a broken leg or severed artery or that he kicks through again and hits the driver possibly causing an RTA? or would you simply take away the option to do it?
and again, how would you physically prevent half a ton of horse coming over the tack locker and partition, whilst on the move? do you think its an acceptable risk to continue to do even short journies knowing that it only takes the horse 10 seconds max to get on top and half way over? or would you think that eliminating his ability to do this is the better way to tackle it for his safety and that of the people who have to try and physically lift him off?
(i hasten to add these are the only 2 tricky travelers we have had in nearly 25 years of having equines in the family, so not driver or lorry related!)
i look forward to your thoughts on the topic of the thread
I ran out of time to finish my post. It could be because maybe you drive too fast, or its too hot in the lorry, or maybe there is something wrong with it and the horse is worried, like a mechanical fault. Maybe the floor is slippy, maybe he hasn't enought to eat to keep him occupied. Could be many reasons, but maybe worth addressing these first and ruling them out like i had to with my horse.
I am just flabbergasted that people actually put hobbles on their horses in order to pacify them in the first place. I would never do that to my horse. He would go balistic for a start.
What would happen if you had to do an emergency stop for example? How would your horse be able to keep its balance if it is unable to stretch its legs because it is hobbled? Just wondering.
i think the only "serious phychological issues" Goof has are called being 4 and an impatient half ton thug!
my 8 stone is no match for his bulk so i shall just continue to prevent him trying in the first place and allow him to calmly eat his hay. Im not sure exactly what you think anyone like monty would do with a horse that leads perfectly,loads happily,ties well, and is in every other way a good boy? he doesnt appear to have many signs of being deeply troubled.
being a blockhead 4yo is definitely considered enough reason by Goof!
Neither did my horse for seven and a half years And like I say he has been great for about the last year now so its good news allround.Aw poor Goof <3
Never needs any encouragement to load or unload (though, neither does Blockhead!).
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No it is not. If you knew of the things she has repeatedly said to me, which have been spiteful and mean. Horrid comments that have had me in tears. This has been going on for months and months, repeatedly. And eventually there comes a point with anyone, when they say enough is enough. And today is the day that I have bitten back. And I am sorry if she doesn't like it but she has never spared a thought for me with all the nasty jibes and comments she has dished out.
She was told she was being cruel for saying what she said to one of my posts the other day. Why you are all rallying around someone has displayed these nasty comments for a long period of time is beyond me.
If you are going to be judge and jury then please get your facts straight instead of jumping on the band wagon. THis person knows me personally, and for whatever reason (I cannot understand the hidden agenda) has taken it upon herself to pursue me on practically every post i have written about my horses injury.