Matt at streamz
Active Member
and I thought HorseGossip was bad!!!!!!!!!!
Dont worry - no need to battle with this - I do not want you to associate our product with this. Thank you SO MUCH for posting and keep in touch.
and I thought HorseGossip was bad!!!!!!!!!!
If a world respected farrier champion comments on "how is there so much growth" to then be told, "its been wearing these bands" - case after case after case... placebo starts to be questioned.
Professional show jumpers, the worlds best, saying their horses fetlocks do not swell after competing and jumping 3 stride 1.6 jumps easier than ever before. Sophie wells (para olympic gold medalist) saying her horses point better and are getting better results since wearing the bands. The grand national winning trainer Harvey Smith saying the horses are less stiff on the gallops and getting additional strides in.
After a while it becomes obvious.
The 'placebo effect' is a ubiquitous phenomenon founded on psychology. As is cognitive dissonance.
If trained medical professionals are subject to the placebo effect - and they are, this is why non-double blind trials are not considered worthwhile in the scientific community - I'm unsure why you think showjumpers and farriers are somehow immune to its effects.
The placebo effect is a wondrous, complex phenomenon. It is incredibly well documented, and yes it is ubiquitous. And that is why no amount of anecdotal reports from individuals (be they international showjumpers, farriers, chiros or just some chap off the street) constitute scientifically respectable data.
I'm new to this forum and was looking for the "LIKE" button, but guess I just need to say I LIKE this comment! David
I'm new to this forum and was looking for the "LIKE" button, but guess I just need to say I LIKE this comment! David
We tend to get JFTD to comment as it save typing and we can just agree
Welcome David, sorry it was under such circumstances!
Ach you'll give me a big head... Or maybe that's closing the stable door after that big, fat hairy cob has bolted...
Agreed - welcome to the forum.
... I'm amazed how many people have made a face when I said I'd take the stitches out myself .
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18 months ago I was running my own business in the corporate world: My godfather asked me to help launch his invention.
For people who are comparing this product with magnet therapy, the two are not comparable. There is a huge number of clinical studies of magnet therapy. Everyone knows what is in the magnet products - magnets.
The only thing we know is in this product is neoprene and Velcro. There is no explanation of any kind of what else it contains. I'm tempted to buy one to cut it open and see what is in it.
That is quite an unfair comment and takes my remark totally out of context. The OP asked for people's experiences, and as no-one else had offered theirs at that point, I stated our experience and then said very clearly that the improvement in the horse's performance and size of his thoroughpins could be down to coincidence but that daughter was keeping the bands on the horse 'just in case'. I'm not sure how that makes us gullible? And in my next post, when the OP stated that she wanted to use it on a splint, I advised her to be patient and the splint would probably reduce on it's own accord!I don't know whether to laugh or be shocked at the gullibility of people who say 'it reduced the size of a splint' (they almost always reduce in size) or that a horse had one off day competing, got the bands and has gone from strength to strength since (like, what, no improving horse ever had one off day?) etc, etc, ....
According to information online about Matthew Campbell, director of Streamz, 18 months ago you were the 33 year old Sales Manager for a tiny Brighton outfit called Usedtelecoms Ltd selling recycled telecoms equipment. Nothing wrong with that at all, it just doesn't sound quite so impressive as giving up a career in the Corporate World to launch your godfather's invention.
Please do post pics of the bands, it would be interesting to see what they look like. The basic premise is that they are comprised of dis similar rubber compounds, isn't it, which are somehow activated after being subjected to an electro magnetic field?No need for you to purchase one or cut it open - will take some photos of the bands later to satisfy people's curiosity. They have an outer casing of neoprene and Velcro, and the 'stuff' inside slides out so the casing can be washed.
Well that might explain some things. There is plenty of evidence for magnet therapy (increasing blood supply I think) So if they are magnetic, they may well get some result. But I doubt very much if it's a cyclotron effect spinning minerals in the blood to rebalance them.
I wonder how they compare price wise with other magnet bands.
Thanks for posting, that was really interesting to see.
Thanks from me too, TGM.Thanks for posting, that was really interesting to see.
Well that might explain some things. There is plenty of evidence for magnet therapy (increasing blood supply I think)
I really, really regret even starting this tread.
I asked a simple question and whilst I have received some responses which I would classify as useful, with people bringing up some opinions and first hand experience of the bands, I now feel that the thread has been hijacked and has evolved into a squabbling match with people insulting each other. It seem that people are missing the point of the initial question that I asked and are now no longer interested in responding to this.
It would be really nice to get back on track with the original question that I asked and I would still be interested to hear responses from people, providing they are constructed in a respectful manner.
http://nccam.nih.gov/health/magnet/magnetsforpain.htm
As I thought , vigorous studies in humans show no evidence of magnets reducing pain...