Euthanasia which method is the more favourable option,why?

[Nudibranch]

So assuming you have the horse shot, at home, what are the options for the body? I know burial can be a problem. Will have to face this in the fairly near future as I have an old cushings pony and she isn't going to last forever.

 

[mickey]

I am a 1 horse owner and this is the first horse that is my own. (I have ridden many others for many people). I guess this will (some day, hopefully a long time away) be the first time I will have to make this decision.
I hope that I can find it in myself to take the option of whichever method is quicker and less painful for my horse. That is my responsibility as an owner? My own trauma I can bear if it is for the welfare of my horse.
I wonder if it is possible to have your horse shot and then cremated or buried somewhere personal???
I'm not suggesting everyone would want to do this, but as my first and only horse he is very special to me.

 

[goeslikestink]

i have had my horses shot-- when the time was right
i prefer it shot bang dead and gone before they fall down

and the knacker man or hunts men is the cheapest

as vets charge for this service and use the same people
be shot or jabbed they have to go to be crimated as they cant be used for anything as they have been drugged

 

[NIKKI1974]

i heard through the grape vine that you are no longer legally allowed to bury your hose can someone put light on this

 

[JM07]

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So assuming you have the horse shot, at home, what are the options for the body? I know burial can be a problem. Will have to face this in the fairly near future as I have an old cushings pony and she isn't going to last forever.

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if you have it shot at home, the guy (knackerman) takes it away...part of the service

 

[Shilasdair]

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i heard through the grape vine that you are no longer legally allowed to bury your hose can someone put light on this

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Here's DEFRA's info on it;

http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/by-prods/fallen/horses.htm

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[Weezy]

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To me, my horses deserve to have a dignified trauma-free death at home.

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OK, this is not aimed at you alone, it is something I have pondered for a while.

Lots of people talk about a "dignified end", which is great and I appreciate you should want to do that...BUT this is all for the owner and not for the horse. I will say, for the record, that my horse LOVES going on a trailer and out for a little expedition, it makes her happy, so if I WERE to take her to Potters, then she would think she was going out for a party, be happy and joyous, and her life would be ended in a high happy state of sense.

A dignified end does not have to mean at home IMHO - the MOST dignified of endings is knowing WHEN your horse's time has come and to get on with it swiftly and safely.

 

[KatB]

I would never take mine to the abbatoir as I think they can sense death. However, would prob not hesitate regarding the hunt, IF I scould trust the huntsman!

 

[NIKKI1974]

thankyou that is great help !!!!!

 

[JM07]

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To me, my horses deserve to have a dignified trauma-free death at home.

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OK, this is not aimed at you alone, it is something I have pondered for a while.

Lots of people talk about a "dignified end", which is great and I appreciate you should want to do that...BUT this is all for the owner and not for the horse. I will say, for the record, that my horse LOVES going on a trailer and out for a little expedition, it makes her happy, so if I WERE to take her to Potters, then she would think she was going out for a party, be happy and joyous, and her life would be ended in a high happy state of sense.

A dignified end does not have to mean at home IMHO - the MOST dignified of endings is knowing WHEN your horse's time has come and to get on with it swiftly and safely.

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YEY....a sensible voice prevails.....

 

[Tinkerbee]

Ours, shot by vet, and then sent to kennels

 

[Parkranger]

depends on the situation. My old boy broke his leg. Being shot was the kindest thing - he felt no pain as he went down on his broken leg. Can't say it was easy.

I'd prefer injection but would always do what was best for the horse - regardless of my feelings

 

[the watcher]

I am sure mine would consider it to be a party too - I'm just not sure that I could hold it together for a journey, therefore I would rather forgo the meat money and get the job done at home by the hunt kennels

it is my one nod to sentimentality in all this

 

[Nickijem]

I had my first horse pts in April. I had no previous experience of this and had not even given it any thought as he was only 15 and appeared perfectly healthy the previous day. He had severe colic, and as he hadn't been in a trailer for the 10 years I had owned him, I wasn't going to put him through that ordeal.
Actually the vet doubted he would survive the journey. He was pts by injection but as he was already heavily sedated, he didn't notice the needle and there was no staggering about, he just fell where he stood in the field as I held him. The last words he heard were 'I love you'.
Yes - the injection can be less traumatic for the sentimental slushy owners like me, that's why it should depend on the circumstances.
My horse was collected by King's Hill crematorium - fantastic professional people and I scattered his ashes in his paddock.

 

[Weezy]

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The last words he heard were 'I love you'.

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No, the last words YOU said to HIM were "I love you"

Sorry, am not in a very sentimental mood tonight. In your situation I would have done the same - the horse was already doped up to the eyeballs anyway, so easiest way to go.

Also, those who cremate - how do you KNOW you have your horse's remains? Have always pondered this!

 

[NIKKI1974]

any vets out there who are willing to say which method they would use by choice

 

[JM07]

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I had my first horse pts in April. I had no previous experience of this and had not even given it any thought as he was only 15 and appeared perfectly healthy the previous day. He had severe colic, and as he hadn't been in a trailer for the 10 years I had owned him, I wasn't going to put him through that ordeal.
Actually the vet doubted he would survive the journey. He was pts by injection but as he was already heavily sedated, he didn't notice the needle and there was no staggering about, he just fell where he stood in the field as I held him. The last words he heard were 'I love you'.
Yes - the injection can be less traumatic for the sentimental slushy owners like me, that's why it should depend on the circumstances.
My horse was collected by King's Hill crematorium - fantastic professional people and I scattered his ashes in his paddock.

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he heard yo saying "i love you"...i doubt it.....


bet it made you feel good though?

 

[JM07]

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any vets out there who are willing to say which method they would use by choice

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thats irrelevent...they work on behalf of their clients.....

 

[NIKKI1974]

i think if you insisted i would imagine you would be able to witness it being done as you have to pay heaps more for a private cremation than if it was done with other horses

 

[KatB]

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he heard yo saying "i love you"...i doubt it.....


bet it made you feel good though?

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This is an emotive subject for alot of people, was there really any need for that?

 

[NIKKI1974]

but they must have their own opinions even if its not their choice

 

[NicoleD]

Have used both methods in past. I think bullet is better for the horse especially if they dont like the vets in the first place! However we have a very good knacker man and when he soon retires will go for injections again as very scared someone may miss and really mess it up. But i think this is more stressful for the horse as they are still aware when they go down. It makes no difference how we the owners feel, if we own a horse we have to do what is best for the horse. Have been with all mine to the end talking to them so the last thing they hear is a freindly voice.

 

[JM07]

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he heard yo saying "i love you"...i doubt it.....


bet it made you feel good though?

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This is an emotive subject for alot of people, was there really any need for that?

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because having any animal PTS, in whatever way, is to make the owner feel good...


the animal has no say in it whatsoever.....

 

[KatB]

No I understand that, but in most cases it is a necessary thing to be done, so therefore all the decision left to be made is how and where, so surely if it was that persons decision to have it done with her there speaking to it, it is no more worthy of criticism than your chosen method?!! EIther way it is not something the horse "chooses" is it?!!

 

[S_N]

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I had my first horse pts in April. I had no previous experience of this and had not even given it any thought as he was only 15 and appeared perfectly healthy the previous day. He had severe colic, and as he hadn't been in a trailer for the 10 years I had owned him, I wasn't going to put him through that ordeal.
Actually the vet doubted he would survive the journey. He was pts by injection but as he was already heavily sedated, he didn't notice the needle and there was no staggering about, he just fell where he stood in the field as I held him. The last words he heard were 'I love you'.
Yes - the injection can be less traumatic for the sentimental slushy owners like me, that's why it should depend on the circumstances.
My horse was collected by King's Hill crematorium - fantastic professional people and I scattered his ashes in his paddock.

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he heard yo saying "i love you"...i doubt it.....


bet it made you feel good though?

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F, I totally get what you mean here, but please, that may have been hurtful.... If I didn't know you, it would have hurt me.

 

[JM07]

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I had my first horse pts in April. I had no previous experience of this and had not even given it any thought as he was only 15 and appeared perfectly healthy the previous day. He had severe colic, and as he hadn't been in a trailer for the 10 years I had owned him, I wasn't going to put him through that ordeal.
Actually the vet doubted he would survive the journey. He was pts by injection but as he was already heavily sedated, he didn't notice the needle and there was no staggering about, he just fell where he stood in the field as I held him. The last words he heard were 'I love you'.
Yes - the injection can be less traumatic for the sentimental slushy owners like me, that's why it should depend on the circumstances.
My horse was collected by King's Hill crematorium - fantastic professional people and I scattered his ashes in his paddock.

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he heard yo saying "i love you"...i doubt it.....


bet it made you feel good though?

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F, I totally get what you mean here, but please, that may have been hurtful.... If I didn't know you, it would have hurt me.

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ok...Ibel...reading it back through twice, i can see it may have been...


apologies......

 

[Nickijem]

I am not hurt by the comment that I doubt my horse heard me - I'm not daft - I know that even if he did hear me, he didn't know what I said - he didn't understand many english words!!
I said it to make me feel better - I loved my horse like he was my child.
I wanted his departure to be as peaceful as possible - end of.

 

[S_N]

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ok...Ibel...reading it back through twice, i can see it may have been...


apologies......

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I'm tired and when I read that post, I thought of what I said to Tops as he went - I said 'sorry' and no, it didn't make me feel better, but I knew it was the right thing to do - the PTS, not the apology. I know you, so know that you would not have meant that to be hurtful though!

 

[Honeypots]

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Also, those who cremate - how do you KNOW you have your horse's remains? Have always pondered this!

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Me too!

As for making it easier on yourself, why not? I'd rather be there when my horses are pts . I couldn't stand there and watch someone shoot any one of them. I'd be a wreck and they may sense that. I know I would be fine with injection. Therefore I feel it would be best for my horses..

 

[JM07]

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I am not hurt by the comment that I doubt my horse heard me - I'm not daft - I know that even if he did hear me, he didn't know what I said - he didn't understand many english words!!
I said it to make me feel better - I loved my horse like he was my child.
I wanted his departure to be as peaceful as possible - end off.

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and may he stay with you in our thoughts forever.......







and no, i'm not being flipant....