Famous stallions' quirks

Sorry I'm late....
Belgian sire 'Unique' tends to donate his breathing issues
'Darco' cold backs and/or girthing problems as youngsters
'Pion' and sometimes 'Jokinal de Bornival' blood, sweet itch
'Lys de Darmen' dares to give windsuckers and weavers
However all of the above have given many good horses,just some of them have had a few 'extra' options......
 
Clover hill...about from normally producing good jumpers tends to still have stock with the most enormous donkey ears (which I love). KOD I have had 3 from his line and known a further 4. All wildly different! But would walk away from a Primitive Rising horse - had one and directly knew a further 4, all direct descendants. All were appalling cribbers!
 
I know a Jumbo baby. He's pretty backwards and refuses to walk on alot just stands and sets himself in hand-refuses to load just stares at you other times will walk straight everythings a make me answer. Lacks umph when ridden as well.

Met a Weltmyer offspring mad as a box of frogs used to turn himself inside out for no reason. Wouldn't let you take up a contact when mounting so had to just pray he wouldn't move. Know a mare that also won't let you take up a contact when ridden.
 
ElleJS said:
Mine is bay and leggy! Her full brother is 1* eventing as a 6yo. She is probably the most straightforward mare I have ever had in my yard. Very sensitive but tries hard all the time and has a wow jump! I unfortunately don't own her and I am supposed to sell her but after a massive time waster (who pulled out after she passed a 5* vetting!!) I get to play with her a bit longer. :D
There are some pics on my fb http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f....603896083021.157357.277003326&type=3&theater she is the bay called Cherry (its an album of all the 4/5yo's developent over the past 12months!) these were taken only a few months after she was broken in this year so looks a bit scrawny in the first photos. She has put on alot more topline now.

Everyone I know who has a Ghareeb says the same about how lovely they are. I'm sure there are not so great ones but you do have to remember that the mare counts for a lot more than the sire!
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I would really rather like Butterfly...please? :D
 
but you do have to remember that the mare counts for a lot more than the sire!
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Indeedy. The old desert arab breeders used to say that the basic frame came from the sire but everything else came from the mare. They believed that the very soul of the horse could be traced back down the tail female line and as a result their breeding aims really focussed on the strength of the female lines.

That said, the sire of our two grey arabs really does stamp his stock. They are all deliciously eccentric, but they all have a way of getting under your skin.
 
seabsicuit2 said:
Would agree on Cruisings being complete lazy sods but talented when you can get it out of them!
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I have seen this as well! ridden a couple of them and they have been very laid back! (but talented)

My horse Monty is by Graf Magna, related to Graf Grannus and Graf Fennmaster, and have been told by numerous people that the Graf line are all very brave and talented, so make good eventers... however are a bit sharp and silly with EVERYTHING that isn't put infront of them as a jump...!!! Which to be frank, is so true of Monty and another Graf horse i know of, so talented and will jump anything, but walk them PAST jump and they look at it like it is going to eat them!!

Clover lines always seem to make very good jumpers.

But looking at this thread, it does prove that breeding and characteristics and quirks passing onto offspring really is still debatable!!!
 
I personally would never touch a horse by Classic. Where I used to work there were 5 horses by him, all at different ages. All of them were very quirky and not particularly talented.

Does anybody have experiance of Erhaab (TB) progeny?
 
Forgot to say in my previous post on this thread;

My previous horse Dani was by Kris, an irish thoroughbred racehorse... and his progeny are apparently very sharp and inherit his racing skills - however my poor Dani didn't :p he was a steady, easy to handle lad who would turn his little honest heart to anything!!!
 
Wow isn't this an interesting thread. Does anyone have experience of trakenhers? I have a little chestnut mare whose grandad is Vatout. Interesting to say the least! Very intelligent, thinks her whole world should just be in our school as everything is else is MUCH too scary but is very beautiful and VERY clever. Everything has to be done in a tacful way to say the least. Terrible manners on the ground but I think that maybe down to the way she has been pampered all her life, unfortunately by me!
 
What an interesting thread! Would love to know if anyone has any experiences of any horses with similar breeding to mine.

I have a mare by Acapulco Z ( acorado x calpso) Who is stunning to look at and deal with on the ground but super sensitive to ride! I don't know how much of this is down to breedig/ upbringing.

My 3yr old is by valiant ( for pleasure) and out of a jasper mare, she is tiny a very pony 15. 2hh and has the most stunning temp she is the most lovely horse I have ever met!
 
Anyone know anything about stedinger& his traits ? Have a 5 year old by him who was a tyrant to start with but who I am completely in love with now.
V quirky, but gorgeous to ride.
 
carterk3 said:
Wow isn't this an interesting thread. Does anyone have experience of trakenhers? I have a little chestnut mare whose grandad is Vatout. Interesting to say the least! Very intelligent, thinks her whole world should just be in our school as everything is else is MUCH too scary but is very beautiful and VERY clever. Everything has to be done in a tacful way to say the least. Terrible manners on the ground but I think that maybe down to the way she has been pampered all her life, unfortunately by me!
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TarrSteps says that trakehners were bred "to gallop headlong into bayonets", hence why they're how they are. :rolleyes: I've got a Grafenstolz 2yo and a Wish Upon A Star yearling so I must be a glutton for punishment. :p
 
Oi! Context is everything, BD!

I am actually a big Trakehner fan but it's true, the book does value "toughness" more than most due to their history. They also are the only book that accepts only TB and Arab outside blood, as opposed to the other "open" books which take horses from other WBFSH books and even have reciprocal approvals. I would say they breed to type more consistently than the other books, which makes sense. And it explains why you see so many eventing, particularly as they usually move well and are pretty. Traditionally people from TB/eventing backgrounds usually get on well with them. In the past people who favoured more "old style" warmbloods tended to not be so keen but in the last 20 or 30 years the other books have done so much refining - often using Trakehners - it's not such a radical shift these days.

The breed also puts a lot of emphasis on the damlines, hence their naming practice of using the dam's first letter.

All that said, I am not so up on my UK Trakehner breeding (the only stallion on this thread I know well personally is Abdullah!) . . . .where is Volatis when you need her? (Also speaking of remarkable injury recovery!)
 
ElleJS said:
Fascinating thread to read.


Has anyone here got a Harlequin du Carel? All the ones I have seen are just so fabulous over a fence. Mine is 5, little, only 15.3 and jumping foxhunters will 1* event next year but my word she is a cheeky little minx!!! In the loveliest possible way but has two buttons- lazy or bouncy rubber ball and you have to have your witts about you! She is also very trainable and we can teach her all sorts of tricks very easily!
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I have a Harlequin mare, she does have a good jump even with a numpty on board like me!
I found her very shy and untrusting when I got her but have had her a year and she is great now she trusts us :-)
 
anyone have any info on TB stallion CHEVALIER?...

That's Dustry's daddy, and I always thought D looked a bit saddlers wellsy, and turn out Chevalier has SW in his blood line! who knew?... :)
 
CParker said:
Yes i have a chesnut by Erhaab he has the sweetest temperament and an amazing jump he never made the race track think, would definately have another!!
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Harry the iron grey in my sig is by him. He raced both on the flat and over hurdles, never won :rolleyes:, but came second a few times, and did amass a fair few winnings. He is a very sweet horse, with a huge jump, but is very nappy when he wants to be!
 
Chloe_GHE said:
anyone have any info on TB stallion CHEVALIER?...

That's Dustry's daddy, and I always thought D looked a bit saddlers wellsy, and turn out Chevalier has SW in his blood line! who knew?... :)
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Hi yard i worked at in ireland had a few foals by him and they were all HUGE brave foals, don't know what they are like know tho they should be 4/5year olds now.
 
Sportznight I can imagine he wads! They always seem to be very narrow which makes it hard to stay on them :p

I find most fillies in racing are nutjobs though a filly I ride by Tau Ceti is lovely :) her half sister is by OCC and she's a complete scat bag :p

seabiscuit, we had a Saddlers Wells colt at work, lovely horse :) he was bay with three white stockings, white in his tail and a big white face. His name is Vasily, he moved to another yard before his first race and has done well.

My mare is by Tobougg, she's quite easy going but can't half throw a strop, other Tobouggs I've known are pretty much the same :)
 
Chloe_GHE said:
anyone have any info on TB stallion CHEVALIER?...

That's Dustry's daddy, and I always thought D looked a bit saddlers wellsy, and turn out Chevalier has SW in his blood line! who knew?... :)
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I only know one who is a lovely horse. He's quite lazy but can be quite cheeky if he thinks he can get away with it and finds everything very easy even though he is naturally on his forehand.
 
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