Famous stallions' quirks

oldvic said:
I only know one who is a lovely horse. He's quite lazy but can be quite cheeky if he thinks he can get away with it and finds everything very easy even though he is naturally on his forehand.
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just like D he finds life a piece of cake, but deffo built on the downhill, sometimes lazy like if I'm not spot on with a trans' back down he will just flop into walk, but that's more me than him!
 
What about horses with Danehill bloodlines? Mine has Danehill lines and the stallions are very muscled powerhouses with
HUGE arses!
Luckily mine is strangely uphill which he may have inherited from his Dams side (she was out of Miswaki).
My horse is cheeky, playful and a bit too clever for his own good but a real trier and as honest as the day is long with the heart of a lion.
Mine used to whip round out hacking when I first got him, not to nap at all but when he was spooked. Apparently his dad did exactly the same! Mine doesn't do it at all anymore as I've trained him to stop and look for a moment instead ;). Also his Dad was apparently an absolute sweetie and mine is very sweet also. He also has exactly the same head as his dad, his grandad Danehill dancer and his Great Grandad Danehill. Pony head with broad forehead and little ears, like a welsh pony head :).
 
abitodd said:
Mine has doruto on the damside. I have heard(from a dutch trainer) that doruto blood is very rare and reknowned for being late maturing. Doruto himself did not get his act together 'til he was 10+.
My chap seems to be following suit.........He is now eight and at last growing out of his ginga-ninga temper tantrums.........although is still good at the subtle evasions.
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Thanks for that :) Mine is only 6 and to be fair is a very cool dude and in general, wuite mature. I mean he goes out hacking alone like an old pro and has successfully done his first season eventing at be90 and now working to elementary bd. Interesting ou say slow to mature as physically he does look like he does need to grow into himself a bit and def still has toddler ginger ninja tantrums!! I have heard good things about Doruto lines and the Wellington line but just wanted to knwo if anyone had more info :) Did yours have a late growth spurt??
 
festivefirewell said:
What about horses with Danehill bloodlines? Mine has Danehill lines and the stallions are very muscled powerhouses with
HUGE arses!
Luckily mine is strangely uphill which he may have inherited from his Dams side (she was out of Miswaki).
My horse is cheeky, playful and a bit too clever for his own good but a real trier and as honest as the day is long with the heart of a lion.
Mine used to whip round out hacking when I first got him, not to nap at all but when he was spooked. Apparently his dad did exactly the same! Mine doesn't do it at all anymore as I've trained him to stop and look for a moment instead ;). Also his Dad was apparently an absolute sweetie and mine is very sweet also. He also has exactly the same head as his dad, his grandad Danehill dancer and his Great Grandad Danehill. Pony head with broad forehead and little ears, like a welsh pony head :).
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Chevalier is by danehill
 
foxy1 said:
Winningmood AND Darco!! Lucky you!!
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Yep v lucky.. he's such a lovely boy.. really sweet natured and genuine but with such a cheeky streak, but i'm not sure if that is growing up with two cheeky ponies!!
He looks so much like Winningmood in his head shape and general build. Have heard they mature late though.:confused:
 
Auslander said:
You're very welcome! I have other highly descriptive phrases for her, but they are not for sharing in polite company!
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I will credit you accordingly. :)

I rode a very long, washy chestnut horse in a Mark Todd clinic once and he dubbed it The Camel the first day. Even the owner didn't get offended as there was more than a passing resemblance. , ,
 
DiMaggio sharp, stressy, no sense of self preservation. Hugely intelligent and with a spectacular 60-0mph 180° spin manoeuvre. I regularly find myself facing the wrong way with no idea how I got there!
 
I know a few by Cruising and while they are all different horses they definitely share some aspects. They were all "people" horses - very affectionate and constantly looking for reassurance. Also a weird blend of arrogant and insecure that made for quite an interesting ride. Definitely talented but I would say a pro's ride as long as that pro is very sensitive.
 
carterk3 said:
Wow isn't this an interesting thread. Does anyone have experience of trakenhers? I have a little chestnut mare whose grandad is Vatout. Interesting to say the least! Very intelligent, thinks her whole world should just be in our school as everything is else is MUCH too scary but is very beautiful and VERY clever. Everything has to be done in a tacful way to say the least. Terrible manners on the ground but I think that maybe down to the way she has been pampered all her life, unfortunately by me!
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I have a vatout son out of a Rinelander mare and a vatout grandson (on mares side) hes by elfenstein who is by hohenstein. Both are extremely beautiful with huge eyes - big boy has very neat pointy ears, young chap has huge flappy ones ;)

The vatout son is a complete diva - he's sexy and he knows it! You have to have him completely on your side and generally tends to think he knows best about mostly anything. Sharp as anything - spooky and aloof, but when you get it right my god does he work for you :) he's basically taught me to ride!

His nephew couldn't be more different - he's rising three and takes everything in his (enormous) stride - he's long reining, past flappy bags, galloping horses, cars, motor bikes screaming kids - doesn't bat an eyelid in fact. He's the friendliest, softest horse I've ever known. His work ethic is incredible and I'm very excited about getting him under saddle. His maternal sister who also has hohenstein in her breeding has the same easy going temperament and has been a joy to back.
 
Dashercrumbie said:
I know a few by Cruising and while they are all different horses they definitely share some aspects. They were all "people" horses - very affectionate and constantly looking for reassurance. Also a weird blend of arrogant and insecure that made for quite an interesting ride. Definitely talented but I would say a pro's ride as long as that pro is very sensitive.
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My 5yo's grandsire is Cruising and this is a very accurate description of how he is!! He is the biggest softie ever on the ground just loves people and attention, he would stand and be fussed over all day long. I always find it hard to describe how he is to ride to people as he is such a complex character but 'a weird blend of arrogant and insecure' is exactly him!! I am definitely not a pro and i am only making slow and steady progress with him (had him just over a year), i'm sure the right pro could get a lot more out him much more quickly as i definitely do not find him easy but do really enjoy riding him and having a bit of challenge!!
 
Someone asked about Accondy about 40 posts ago....

I've only owned one gelding and NEVER again! He was vicious, dangerous to handle and be in the stable with (so much so vets refused to treat him) and would throw the most almighty tantrums ridden that it was only slightly safer to cling on as if you'd come off I have the feeling he'd have come back to trample over you! He was incredibly clever and would think of a new evasion in the blink of an eye. He was really nappy, would go backwards, up and when none of that worked he took to throwing himself on the ground (ditto when attempting to load).

In his defence he came to me in poor condition and needed a lot of work, It took a year to turn him into a well mannered horse that gave you a nice ride. I've no idea what clicked for him to turn around his behaviour but he turned out as a nice all rounder. He was also a cribber.

I wondered if it was just me so done some digging and the general opinion seemed to be that although Accondy himself was a nice horse his offspring were very tricky with a tendency to be, ahem, "sharp" and untrustworthy. Handle with kid gloves seemed to be the motto of the day

Has anyone any experience with Cape Cross offspring?
 
Carnival Drum seems to pass on a nasty streak. I knew a CD mare who was the nastiest creature I've ever had the displeasure of meeting, and since have heard that it's a known trait from that stallion.

They may jump to the skies but I certainly wouldn't have a horse that went for you as you passed by or frequently dropped their rider and headed for home. She was pts sleep in the end as she just became too unpredictable and dangerous (more a psychological issue I guess, that got worse as she got older). She was a miserable mare - poor horse.
 
I know a mare by Accondy out of a Dam by Welton Crackerjack, She is a really stressy madam who was difficult to train (was with a pro rider) and inspite of being incredibly talented never got further than Novice because she just 'blew up' in the dressage.

There were two very good (Four star) eventers bred from the same Dam so probably not the Crackerjack factor!
 
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Chloe_GHE said:
anyone have any info on TB stallion CHEVALIER?...

That's Dustry's daddy, and I always thought D looked a bit saddlers wellsy, and turn out Chevalier has SW in his blood line! who knew?... :)
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Sorry, I'm late to the game but we had several Chevalier colts at work. I'm trying to remember what they were like....

I seem to remember them being particularly cuddly. Not that that is in anyway what you want to know of course :p
 
I know several Cape Cross horses, but all still in racing. I really liked them - good, honest, sweet, hard working horses. Not sure how they'd be in another job but worth a shot. Is that what D is, TPO?

I know 3, all girls. They all jump but personally I think it's a bit of an old style line. I also get the sense he got a lot of mares whose only claim to fame was they could jump a bit, so perhaps his rep is dicey on that account.
 
foxy1 said:
I knew an absolute witch of a mare by Dutch Gold, also had really awful sweetitch
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My lad is grandson to Dutch Gold's grandsire, and he is sharpest horse I have ever known and opinionated too.

Our YO has a foal by Stormhill Mink turning into a really bonny brave lad. A real star for the future out of an extremely well bred Oldenburg mare.
FDC
 
SamandMonty said:
My boy is a Darco Grandbaby but never had any girthing issue or coldbackedness?? (not sure thats a word lol).
Anyone know anything about Winningmood as thats his daddy?
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I have a Winningmood, my 17yo daughter has done him herself with no girthiness or cold backed issues, in fact, he is superb in every way. I also have another Darco 3yo baby coming within the next few weeks.
 
festivefirewell said:
What about horses with Danehill bloodlines? Mine has Danehill lines and the stallions are very muscled powerhouses with
HUGE arses!
Luckily mine is strangely uphill which he may have inherited from his Dams side (she was out of Miswaki).
My horse is cheeky, playful and a bit too clever for his own good but a real trier and as honest as the day is long with the heart of a lion.
Mine used to whip round out hacking when I first got him, not to nap at all but when he was spooked. Apparently his dad did exactly the same! Mine doesn't do it at all anymore as I've trained him to stop and look for a moment instead ;). Also his Dad was apparently an absolute sweetie and mine is very sweet also. He also has exactly the same head as his dad, his grandad Danehill dancer and his Great Grandad Danehill. Pony head with broad forehead and little ears, like a welsh pony head :).
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We had a Danehill colt too. And yep, he was a little powerhouse. Very pretty and extremely nice to do on the ground. He was also a little toad to ride though and would cock his jaw and piss off with you. He took one of the lasses through the post and rail fence round our exercise ring once! One of the other girls snapped her collar bone coming off him when he ran through her hand and took a corner too sharp.
 
I personally have one by Green Horizon who I know never raced so unlikely to find much about him although someone might have one of his as he is a well bred chap I believe and has Danzig lines if that's right?


And another by SirGame who I might have better luck with! Mine is a bit of a simple Simon!
 
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ttt said:
I have a Winningmood, my 17yo daughter has done him herself with no girthiness or cold backed issues, in fact, he is superb in every way. I also have another Darco 3yo baby coming within the next few weeks.
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I did Monty myself.. first attempt at a baby... he was a darling and still is. Absolute dream.. Glad he's not just a one off quirk!!:D
 
TarrSteps said:
I know several Cape Cross horses, but all still in racing. I really liked them - good, honest, sweet, hard working horses. Not sure how they'd be in another job but worth a shot. Is that what D is, TPO?

I know 3, all girls. They all jump but personally I think it's a bit of an old style line. I also get the sense he got a lot of mares whose only claim to fame was they could jump a bit, so perhaps his rep is dicey on that account.
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Yip, by Cape Cross out of Deceive (GB) (dam's sire Machiavellian (USA), dam's grandsire Mr Prospector (USA)). He's all of those things and completely unflappable; he's just never left the ground yet as far as I know so wondered if they had form!
 
charlimouse said:
Does anybody have experiance of Erhaab (TB) progeny?
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Yes, I got one at just turning 4, he was anxious, arrogant, nappy and generally difficult, but could be a lovely horse to ride as he was nimble and has a lovely pop in him. Very, very smart but not affectionate in the slightest. He needs very clear boundaries to keep him happy. When he's good though he is very, very good, just don't ask him to do anything outside his comfort zone! I wasn't experienced enough when I got him and we never got our act together, he taught my bf to ride though and is now owned by my friend who loves his quirks and is building up a fantastic relationship with him. He's 10 now and mellowed out a lot.

I know a mare who is at the same trainers my boy came from who is exactly the same, she's a decent hurdler but tricky. They manage her well however and she performs well in return.

I knew of a couple more in training who both have the same tricky but talented reputation. I'd have another as I think the right one could be a super horse, they would probably excel in a competative home. The ones I knew off have all be pretty tough too.
 
Eeeek jesstinsel! Luckily mine isn't like that! He can have the odd moment but luckily remembers his head in time to keep us both safe!

Does anyone have any by bobs return? My late mare was by him and by golly she could be a stressy pain in the arse!! She was genuine and safe though, just very highly strung. She had a
cracking jump on her though. She was by bobs return who was by bob back. She had grey sovereign on her mother side (which is where she got her grey coat from).
 
My 4yr old catherston dance in the dark is a right character, known as cheeky charlie, he is such an immature so and so, his favourite game is sniffing you all over very curiosly then nipping you with his lips, he is very talented tho

I also have an 11yr old mare by Ricardo Z lovely affectionate mare on the ground, nutcase to ride, dont ever tell her off whilst riding I dont dare! nasty in the field with all horses even if she loves them, she hates being petted or scratched while im on her, will scowl at me and kick out, but what a fantastic jumping mare, loves her job, doesnt like you telling her what to do.
 
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