For those actively looking to buy a horse - how hard is it now?

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JBM

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@AShetlandBitMeOnce No...i'm reducing horses, it used to be rather a lot that found themselves as field ornaments so reducing that number. (down to 16!) i am being realistic, as most are over 20 years, and i'm getting older and more sensible, there will be no expensive vet investigations- and only 3 donkeys and a mule vacancy (at the moment but watch this space!)

@piebaldproblems No luck in finding the brecon mules so hopefully gone to good homes.
I have the dreaded feeling I am gonna have just as many horses as you 😅
 

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I started seriously looking for daughters new horse about four weeks ago…enquired about a few which were sold subject to vetting within two days of advertising. Tried one which was withdrawn from sale the day after sadly and all of these were for sale between 10 and 15 thousand pounds all under 6 years old with varying pedigrees and training. On Sunday we viewed a very sweet natured well bred mare recently imported from Ireland. Only 3 but backed and ridden away. She passed 5 stage vetting to hunt and do riding club and allrounder work and came home today..half the price of the ones we ve been viewing so take heart searchers they are out there.
 

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Sister is back tentatively looking after the boy she had here on trial wouldn't stay sound.
The ads I've seen have definitely been up a wee bit longer so fingers crossed!
If anyone spots a 14.2 ish version of what B is looking for!
 

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At the risk of being shot down but horses cost so much to produce we really need to accept that 7-10 thousand is a fair price for a good 15-16.2 all rounder.
I think because for most of us horses are a lovely hobby we forget somewhere down the road people are doing horse as a business to provide us with our hobby .
My most expensive horse ever was the one I bred myself!
 

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  1. I'm looking for something between the ages of 6 - 12.
  2. An ISH or a sensible WB or a cross of the two, but more likely an ISH because I need a middleweight, weight carrying type.
  3. 16.3hh - 17.1hh, certainly no bigger. Might consider 16.2hh at a real push.
  4. A gelding
  5. It HAS to be okay to hack on its own (most advertised are)
  6. Something capable of doing riding club stuff on, unaffiliated SJ/Dressage, etc.
  7. It has to be sound and sane (really?? enough said )
Please don't send me suggestions though.....not just yet. I really am not looking at the moment, I need to save up some more money for a contingency fund and with going on holiday there is not much point.

Just studying the market.

Thanks for your replies
I've just seen one locally though may be a bit green for you.
 

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I'm casually watching with plan to buy in autumn. Not so much to save money but no time with summer holidays.

I'm just after a nice chunky hacking cob, not really seeing any decent sized ones, they're all mini cobs.

Most are initially priced high but they're mostly hanging around and being dropped, £8k going to £4k is not uncommon on Preloved.

Lots of proper heavy horses around, Belgian drafts, shires and clydesdales . I've always wanted one, if I don't find the cob I might be tempted for one of the smaller ones.

I'm already irritated by the ads though. I'd say nearly half don't have all of : age, height, sex, location. Never mind some clear conformation pictures and a brief description of what it does. They're all fuzzy jumping shots and spiels about what a lovely horse he is / how he's a potential hoys.
I know of a shire mare coming on the market in the next month or 2. South lincs.
 

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I bought mid June. I was definitely looking for the one of the most sought after types - 15-16h, established so 7-10 years old, nice flatwork, good to hack, no vices or issues. Everything I looked at was mid teens price wise and gone super quickly. I bit the bullet eventually and now have a lovely 8 year old connie PC mare, who’s proving to be be every bit as lovely as advertised. She was a chunk of money but I feel completely safe on her, she’s settled without a hitch and I’m just able to crack on. That’s years if hard work from someone so worth every penny. I’m now not looking at any ads as I don’t want to see a depressed market 😂
 

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We bought our current horse through Mitty Hardy and she has been really good; we had a blip about six weeks in but that was due to too much Spring grass and a poorly fitting saddle; once we addressed those issues she settled very quickly. She is a well schooled seven year old 16 middle weight who is happy to hack alone and in company and is happy to take part in riding school lessons. She is well liked at our yard by everyone who has ridden her. Mitty was very honest about her and my instructors feels I finally have the right horse for me. Mitty has also had other horses advertised that I would have considered; we wanted a family rather than competition horse. I got the impression she sells a range of horses and most sell quickly so I presume not difficult to sell.
 

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I think it really depends on what you are looking for.

Native pony prices still are strong. Though have seen a few price movers. Depends how quickly people want to sell.

Safe pony club or riding club ponies still being advertised over 10k and the more competitive ones over 15k. There are two elements that seem to push the prices up people wanting PC ponies that jump 90 plus and older adults wanting safe hacking types.

I am wanting a new forest and they are just so rare. Connies are plentiful and starting to think about looking at a few of them. Prices may be negotiable so the advertised price may not be the sales price.

I really don't want to spend 10k on a pony.

I think part of the issue is that everything is being bred as potential competition horses so they all jump 1.20 or are potential FEI pony types. The are less medium level horses around for the less competitive person.
 

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I’ve seen a few around the 12k mark (very green irish types) now hanging around for awhile and are seeing more going just under 10k recently. Trouble is over 10k you need x-rays to insure and that can open a can of worms as well as adding to the purchase costs.
 

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At the risk of being shot down but horses cost so much to produce we really need to accept that 7-10 thousand is a fair price for a good 15-16.2 all rounder.
I think because for most of us horses are a lovely hobby we forget somewhere down the road people are doing horse as a business to provide us with our hobby .
My most expensive horse ever was the one I bred myself!
Absolutely agree. I bought my girl age 2. So, 4 years of livery. Feed. Hay. Bedding. Insurance. Shoes. My time looking after her. I paid to have her professionally backed at age 4 over 8 weeks. At 250 pounds a week Fast forward 4 years from purchase and she’s just turned 6. She’s an amazing alrounder. Jumping 90cm. Very well schooled. Hacks solo and in company. Covers hundreds of miles each month long distance rides. I’m spending money on clinics. Lessons. Arena hire. I would want 10k for her (and I’d still only just about break even) as she’s not been messed around with. But , folk would probably think wow .. that’s a lot of money.
 

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I’ve seen a few around the 12k mark (very green irish types) now hanging around for awhile and are seeing more going just under 10k recently. Trouble is over 10k you need x-rays to insure and that can open a can of worms as well as adding to the purchase costs.
Yes but you don't have to insure for that.
Lari was 12.5K but I only insured for 10K
 

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Really NFU now will not let you insure for less than the purchase price.
I think they can refuse to pay out if you under insure so I would be wary that you’d be insured at all.

I’m currently insured with Carriage House - they say.

I am buying a horse and paying more than £10,000 – do I need Xrays?
Yes, in addition to a full 5 stage pre-purchase vetting certificate will we require a report on the xrays of all four feet (to include the Navicular bones), all fetlocks, both hocks and stifles.
 

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Really NFU now will not let you insure for less than the purchase price.
They did for us in January, ours was worth less due to his age and we bought him with a load of tack and rugs which basically bumped up his price. So come renewal we asked to insure for less.They spoke to the underwriters and they didn't mind at all x
 

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They did for us in January, ours was worth less due to his age and we bought him with a load of tack and rugs which basically bumped up his price. So come renewal we asked to insure for less.They spoke to the underwriters and they didn't mind at all x
That’s not the same though.
 

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I have just put down a deposit on a pony today subject to vetting. Interesting my vet has recommended x-raying as he is 5 and he says for young horses it is more important as they have not done enough to know if they are going to up to work. For older horses who have been in work for years without problems less inclined to x-ray.
 

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I have just put down a deposit on a pony today subject to vetting. Interesting my vet has recommended x-raying as he is 5 and he says for young horses it is more important as they have not done enough to know if they are going to up to work. For older horses who have been in work for years without problems less inclined to x-ray.
Fingers crossed it goes well for you!
 

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I think they can refuse to pay out if you under insure so I would be wary that you’d be insured at all.

I’m currently insured with Carriage House - they say.

I am buying a horse and paying more than £10,000 – do I need Xrays?
Yes, in addition to a full 5 stage pre-purchase vetting certificate will we require a report on the xrays of all four feet (to include the Navicular bones), all fetlocks, both hocks and stifles.
I was with SEIB for Lari and told them over the phone I'd paid 12.5k but only wanted to insure for 10k to keep my premium down and they were fine and accepted him based on that. I also had to put it in writing on the form.

It's a moot point now as he's no longer insured for vets fees and I doubt I'd get much if he had to be pts on humane grounds as they just give me market value.

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