Future breed

[Moobli]

I've had 3 malamutes and none have been like what you read on the malamute Facebook sites. Mine have all been super chilled and laid back, will walk as little or as much as you want without getting upset if things change the next day, great with others, good with other dogs but will defend themselves if they need to ( this would generally including pinning the aggressive dog to the ground rather than have a fight though), all good with the cats, no prey drive except ashkii if there was a squirrel involved lol. As I said if you ask on any of the Facebook sites this is not how they describe their dogs but it was my experience with all 3 of them.

That’s interesting but I definitely could not cope with something as large and hairy as a Malamute, as lovely as they are.

 

[AmyMay]

How about a Viszla??

 

[Moobli]

How about a Viszla??

The ones I’ve met (gamekeeper ones) have been very sensitive and a bit nervy. They don’t appeal aesthetically as much as a Golden or Lab either for some reason. A friend also had one that had multiple health issues and died very young so that would cloud my judgement too.

 

[fankino04]

That’s interesting but I definitely could not cope with something as large and hairy as a Malamute, as lovely as they are.

The big was never a problem as oddly mine didn't pull either, the hairy on the other hand I do not miss. I did a full on spring clean yesterday ( washing skirting boards etc) and was shocked how much quicker it all got done now I don't have one, made me a little sad

 

[ArklePig]

Fodhla ticks all those boxes but she's not a mix I'd actively encourage people to breed

Surely you need a lab?

 

[Muddy unicorn]

Normally I’d say a Toller as they tick all your boxes, however as my puppy is currently in hospital, maybe not . As a puppy my older Toller had a lovely working golden retriever friend who was utterly gorgeous and very similar in temperament/size/behaviour - she wasn’t quite such a flirt with people as the Tollers tend to be (they are such ridiculously beautiful puppies that they get completely used to random strangers cooing over them so they tend to expect that reaction from everyone they meet)

 

[JJS]

It definitely sounds like you need a Labrador!

 

[Moobli]

Normally I’d say a Toller as they tick all your boxes, however as my puppy is currently in hospital, maybe not . As a puppy my older Toller had a lovely working golden retriever friend who was utterly gorgeous and very similar in temperament/size/behaviour - she wasn’t quite such a flirt with people as the Tollers tend to be (they are such ridiculously beautiful puppies that they get completely used to random strangers cooing over them so they tend to expect that reaction from everyone they meet)

I do like Tollers and actually have a couple of sheepdog friends that breed the occasional Toller litter too so I’ll look further into them. I’m sorry to hear about your puppy . Hope he/she will be ok.

 

[Cortez]

Your wishlist says labrador to me too. All observations below are based solely on my own interactions with the breeds.

I've never met a dalmation that I particularly liked, and they often have difficult temperaments, need masses of exercise to stay a normal weight and have a fair few genetic problems (deafness, kidneys, cancers); a friend used to breed and show them, and even she said don't get one!

Irish red setters are stone mad: adorable but neurotic.

Goldens are hairy.

Vizlas are nervy.

A Weimeraner bit me once - the only dog ever to do so. He also bit his owner (who was a vet) and an additional vet that was reportedly "just looking" at him.

 

[paddy555]

I shall probably be in your position for my next dog, (too old etc)
I do like lassie collies. A friend had a sheltie, needs grooming but apart from that does tick a lot of boxes.

Every breed seems to have so many health problems. I would really like a mongrel. Not sure if you can still get a mongrel.

Neighbour has wire coated vizlas. Friendly, beautiful dogs. Don't know about their health but lovely dogs and definitely not nervy.

 

[Clodagh]

I shall probably be in your position for my next dog, (too old etc)
I do like lassie collies. A friend had a sheltie, needs grooming but apart from that does tick a lot of boxes.

Every breed seems to have so many health problems. I would really like a mongrel. Not sure if you can still get a mongrel.

Neighbour has wire coated vizlas. Friendly, beautiful dogs. Don't know about their health but lovely dogs and definitely not nervy.

I think wire haired vizlas are easier than the smooths. But I do think living on a grouse moor you need a better off button than you’ll get from an HPR. My labs worked their socks off all winter, and on the 2nd Feb their tails lash if they scent game but they don’t react. By now they are just ‘oh look a pheasant’.

 

[Moobli]

I shall probably be in your position for my next dog, (too old etc)
I do like lassie collies. A friend had a sheltie, needs grooming but apart from that does tick a lot of boxes.

Every breed seems to have so many health problems. I would really like a mongrel. Not sure if you can still get a mongrel.

Neighbour has wire coated vizlas. Friendly, beautiful dogs. Don't know about their health but lovely dogs and definitely not nervy.

Have a look at Tofty Sheepdogs. A rough collie breeder is trying to get back to a more workmanlike rough collie with more energy, stronger nerves and less coat by crossing to welsh sheepdogs. It’s still early days but she has already bred some nice dogs.

 

[Moobli]

I think wire haired vizlas are easier than the smooths. But I do think living on a grouse moor you need a better off button than you’ll get from an HPR. My labs worked their socks off all winter, and on the 2nd Feb their tails lash if they scent game but they don’t react. By now they are just ‘oh look a pheasant’.

You do a great job of promoting working line Labs . I think nearer the time I’ll look at the GR and the Lab with a pros/cons list for each and most likely end up with another working German shepherd

 

[paddy555]

Have a look at Tofty Sheepdogs. A rough collie breeder is trying to get back to a more workmanlike rough collie with more energy, stronger nerves and less coat by crossing to welsh sheepdogs. It’s still early days but she has already bred some nice dogs.

thanks,never heard of them but love those. You could have one as well.

 

[druid]

Chesapeake Bay for something a bit different?

 

[Spotherisk]

What do you want it for Moobli? Is it a house dog generally staying on your property, or do you want to do something else ie showing, trials, agility? Do you prefer long or short coats, and do you want it to be super active or stay in when it’s wet like my lurcher?

 

[Smitty]

I have had 3 brilliant crosses. 2 GSD x collie and 1 Lab x Collie. Non prey driven and so trainable (even for me and I can't be bothered) and it was because they wanted to and not food driven.

 

[COldNag]

Something whippety, just don't let it see the prey!

I am thinking whippet next time. All the ones I have met have been super.

 

[Moobli]

thanks,never heard of them but love those. You could have one as well.

I’m keeping a close eye on them

 

[Cortez]

I am thinking whippet next time. All the ones I have met have been super.

Whippets are the absolute best, but do chase things. A bit, until they get bored.

 

[EllieBeast]

My sister in law has a working bred Goldie. She’s tick every box bar not being game driven- obviously steadiness can be trained in though.

I feel a GLP is worth considering, again they’re hard hunters but very trainable and steadiness to game can be trained in. Ours are fab with cats and the adult bitch is excellent around fur and feather, very steady.
Incredibly social with people and dogs

 

[Spotherisk]

Whippets are the absolute best, but do chase things. A bit, until they get bored.

Mine chases the Cocker until it turns around and chases him back, when he screams and lies down!

 

[splashgirl45]

What about a pointer? Either English or German

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

English setter, but only because I want one but probably won't ever have one, so I can live through yours vicariously!

 

[Moobli]

My sister in law has a working bred Goldie. She’s tick every box bar not being game driven- obviously steadiness can be trained in though.

I feel a GLP is worth considering, again they’re hard hunters but very trainable and steadiness to game can be trained in. Ours are fab with cats and the adult bitch is excellent around fur and feather, very steady.
Incredibly social with people and dogs

Thanks! Another breed for the list. Yours are stunning.

 

[Moobli]

What about a pointer? Either English or German

I like GSP but always think of the HPR breeds as more of a handful than your average Lab or Golden.

 

[Moobli]

English setter, but only because I want one but probably won't ever have one, so I can live through yours vicariously!

I like English setters, esp the working strain, but if I had a setter it would be an Irish.

 

[twiggy2]

Maybe look at a less driven line of shepherds they do come across as being your heart dogs.

 

[Moobli]

Maybe look at a less driven line of shepherds they do come across as being your heart dogs.

They definitely are and have been for as long as I can remember.

 

[Clodagh]

Maybe look at a less driven line of shepherds they do come across as being your heart dogs.

I agree with this. Could you go back to a Zak relation?