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[Spotherisk]

Airedale! Huge amount of fun, same
For boxers!

 

[Moobli]

I agree with this. Could you go back to a Zak relation?

Actually, giving my head a wobble, my current male is Zak’s son and is very calm and like Zak in many ways, I think the Czech influence from his maternal line has made him slightly sharper but nothing too bad. His biggest downfall is he can be a little unpredictable with strange dogs and in an ideal world that wouldn’t matter because we wouldn’t have strange dogs running into our space. I think maybe having just one shepherd at a time is the way to go in future and I think the plan would be to have one from a more sport line rather than Czech lines, as the ones I know have less natural suspicion and aggression. Thanks!

 

[Moobli]

Airedale! Huge amount of fun, same
For boxers!

I’m not a terrier person tbh and I don’t think they are known for their tolerance towards other dogs? Boxers look great fun but definitely not for me aesthetically. I prefer long snouted dogs

 

[Annette4]

Bit smaller than your looking for but what about a Corgi? I personally prefer older style Pembrookes but the right lines will give you what you're looking for just on shorter legs.

 

[paddy555]

Huge amount of fun, same
For boxers!

nightmare dogs. My neighbours had them. Totally disobedient, neurotic. I took one from her out on a walk as she clearly couldn't control it. It just didn't listen, appeared to have no brain. Getting even a few steps of heel on a lead was a nightmare.
They would be bottom of my list even below Akitas.

Sorry boxer owners but anyone used to the brain power of a GSD will be bitterly disappointed with a boxer.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

I like English setters, esp the working strain, but if I had a setter it would be an Irish.

They are stunning looking dogs and nice and visible on the moor/in snow. I’m just envisaging you peering round in the snow, unable to see the English setter camouflaged against the snow!

 

[skinnydipper]

nightmare dogs. My neighbours had them. Totally disobedient, neurotic. I took one from her out on a walk as she clearly couldn't control it. It just didn't listen, appeared to have no brain. Getting even a few steps of heel on a lead was a nightmare.
They would be bottom of my list even below Akitas.

Sorry boxer owners but anyone used to the brain power of a GSD will be bitterly disappointed with a boxer.

I know someone that did well in working trials with a boxer

 

[KittenInTheTree]

Someone local to us has a boxer, and it's a delightful dog. Behaves impeccably on and off the lead.

 

[whirlwind]

My collie x springer is the easiest dog ever. As trainable as the straight borders but less nervy and a bit smaller. She loves a long walk or ride but doesn’t make a fuss if it doesn’t happen and pretty much ignores any other dogs/ people unless she knows them. She’ll give a cursory sniff and a tail wag if one comes up on a walk but doesn’t engage further. Steady with all game and livestock as well- she hates to be bad so if you just say AhAh she’ll never do whatever it is again

 

[Clodagh]

nightmare dogs. My neighbours had them. Totally disobedient, neurotic. I took one from her out on a walk as she clearly couldn't control it. It just didn't listen, appeared to have no brain. Getting even a few steps of heel on a lead was a nightmare.
They would be bottom of my list even below Akitas.

Sorry boxer owners but anyone used to the brain power of a GSD will be bitterly disappointed with a boxer.

I’ve always said if Boxers were the last breed standing I’d get a cat

 

[Moobli]

Bit smaller than your looking for but what about a Corgi? I personally prefer older style Pembrookes but the right lines will give you what you're looking for just on shorter legs.

I like Corgis but I’d like a taller dog really.

 

[Moobli]

My collie x springer is the easiest dog ever. As trainable as the straight borders but less nervy and a bit smaller. She loves a long walk or ride but doesn’t make a fuss if it doesn’t happen and pretty much ignores any other dogs/ people unless she knows them. She’ll give a cursory sniff and a tail wag if one comes up on a walk but doesn’t engage further. Steady with all game and livestock as well- she hates to be bad so if you just say AhAh she’ll never do whatever it is again

She’s lovely. I like the more collie looking types over the more spanielly ones for some reason.

 

[Moobli]

I’ve always said if Boxers were the last breed standing I’d get a cat

I’m like that with most bull breeds . No offence intended to bully owners.

 

[Odyssey]

The ones I’ve met (gamekeeper ones) have been very sensitive and a bit nervy. They don’t appeal aesthetically as much as a Golden or Lab either for some reason. A friend also had one that had multiple health issues and died very young so that would cloud my judgement too.

There are two locally, owned by the same person. They worry me, they look absolutely full on and bonkers, always straining hard on the lead. They're so strong that I don't know how the male owner holds them, and his wife can't walk them. I really hope they never slip their collars when I'm walking my dog, as I don't think it would end well.

 

[paddy555]

I’ve always said if Boxers were the last breed standing I’d get a cat

I forget to mention their heads, I hate their noses. I realise the poor boxers can't do much about that. All the ones I have come across are also docked. I hate docked tails.
I'm starting to feel sorry for boxers.

 

[paddy555]

My collie x springer is the easiest dog ever. As trainable as the straight borders but less nervy and a bit smaller. She loves a long walk or ride but doesn’t make a fuss if it doesn’t happen and pretty much ignores any other dogs/ people unless she knows them. She’ll give a cursory sniff and a tail wag if one comes up on a walk but doesn’t engage further. Steady with all game and livestock as well- she hates to be bad so if you just say AhAh she’ll never do whatever it is again

Perfection. Love her. I once had a spaniel (don't know which sort) crossed with a sheepdog. He was also lovely

 

[J&T]

Have a look at Tofty Sheepdogs. A rough collie breeder is trying to get back to a more workmanlike rough collie with more energy, stronger nerves and less coat by crossing to welsh sheepdogs. It’s still early days but she has already bred some nice dogs.

They look interesting trying to bring the traditional lassie back I'm assuming we're talking the original lassie in the very old movies.

I like the traditional lassie types

 

[Blanche]

I wouldn't, a relative has one, she is incredibly hard work and deaf, wants to be eating all the time

I’ve never met one with a decent temperament.

Your wishlist says labrador to me too. All observations below are based solely on my own interactions with the breeds.

I've never met a dalmation that I particularly liked, and they often have difficult temperaments, need masses of exercise to stay a normal weight and have a fair few genetic problems (deafness, kidneys, cancers); a friend used to breed and show them, and even she said don't get one!

Irish red setters are stone mad: adorable but neurotic.

Goldens are hairy.

Vizlas are nervy.

A Weimeraner bit me once - the only dog ever to do so. He also bit his owner (who was a vet) and an additional vet that was reportedly "just looking" at him.

I have never met any with a bad temperament and I have worked for a breeder and work on a yard on the estate of Lord Blahblah who bred too. I have had many friends with them over the years. These people were responsible breeders and people who bought from responsible breeders. When people buy from a back yard breeder (this would be the same for any breed) they run the risk of a litter being bred just because the dog and bitch have the necessary equipment. If the temperament is not evaluated, Baer unaffected, hips and elbows done and tests for HUU and ARDS then they shouldn’t be bred from. But the back yard breeders don’t do that. There is no need to buy a deaf pup as they should be tested before leaving the bitch. Any deaf dog is more work than a hearing dog whatever the breed.

They are a sensitive breed that do not care for aggressive, angry people. Thinking about it I did hear about two aggressive dalmatians that had been stolen by ‘people who travel’ and when the site they were on was raided they were recovered with many other stolen dogs. They had all been forced to fight each other and their brains were fried by it. They had had beautiful temperaments before, after they couldn’t be kept together and the bitch was rehomed. So just like any breed they are affected by handling and training. I wouldn’t have suggested the breed if I thought it would cause problems for Moobli or she wasn’t the right person for the breed. I don’t recommend them to many people at all and do try and put people off if they aren’t the right home in whatever way. That is why I rarely, maybe never before, recommend them on here. Horses for courses etc.

 

[FestiveG]

The deaf dalmatian that I know was hearing as a pup, but progressively became harder of hearing. Temperament is good with people, but she's noisy and very food oriented.

 

[paddy555]

They look interesting trying to bring the traditional lassie back I'm assuming we're talking the original lassie in the very old movies.

I like the traditional lassie types

this is not my photo just one I saved off the internet. I thought these were lovely. Taken I believe late 60's in East Yorks.

 

[EllieBeast]

@Blanche i have an 11 year old Dalmatian bitch who is one of the sweetest, most laid back dogs I’ve ever met. She’s been to visit schools and care homes and is totally trustworthy with humans, dogs and cats alike.

I adore the bones of her, but she will be my last as the GLPs have taken over and we do work them so will stick to gundogs going forward. She’s been a great brushing dog for me over the years though

 

[Blanche]

@Blanche i have an 11 year old Dalmatian bitch who is one of the sweetest, most laid back dogs I’ve ever met. She’s been to visit schools and care homes and is totally trustworthy with humans, dogs and cats alike.

I adore the bones of her, but she will be my last as the GLPs have taken over and we do work them so will stick to gundogs going forward. She’s been a great brushing dog for me over the years though

They are lovely dogs aren’t they, I too know lots that go into schools and homes. The breeder I worked for exported a dog and when his owner went blind he became his guide dog.

eta Have just tried to search for his picture on line but can’t find it. I have the picture in a book of mine but unfortunately all my books are packed away at the moment. Well some of many, many books are packed away!

 

[whirlwind]

Perfection. Love her. I once had a spaniel (don't know which sort) crossed with a sheepdog. He was also lovely

She is lush. And known to all as Perfect Pig she also moonlights as quite a good dog in the pens and picks up, multipurpose to boot!

 

[TheOldTrout]

What about a Schnauzer, standard or giant? My aunt used to have a standard one, he was lovely.

 

[J&T]

this is not my photo just one I saved off the internet. I thought these were lovely. Taken I believe late 60's in East Yorks.
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Yes their the type I mean in the old lassie movies.

Stunning I love rough collies. I also like English shepherds too unfortunately don't have the energy levels to match them.

 

[Moobli]

What about a Schnauzer, standard or giant? My aunt used to have a standard one, he was lovely.

Nope definitely can’t see myself with one, although I have nothing against them per se.

 

[Moobli]

this is not my photo just one I saved off the internet. I thought these were lovely. Taken I believe late 60's in East Yorks.
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I like the ones I’ve seen in photos from the 1940s. Like the dog in the Lassie Come Home original film.

 

[blodwyn1]

I have had two working golden retrievers both have been wonderful dogs. Our first boy died at 7 from kidney failure our second lived to twelve and a half and I couldn't face another after him so we now have a red labrador bitch. All are great but the lab is easier as less hair is shed.

 

[anguscat]

I like Corgis but I’d like a taller dog really.

Cardiganshire Corgis are a bit bigger than Pembrokes. In fact their body size comes pretty close to small working labs. They’re originally farm dogs, bred alongside collies but to drive the cattle in. In consequence they’re quite brave and determined in nature. They’re short so the cattle kick-backs go over their heads.

 

[Moobli]

I have had two working golden retrievers both have been wonderful dogs. Our first boy died at 7 from kidney failure our second lived to twelve and a half and I couldn't face another after him so we now have a red labrador bitch. All are great but the lab is easier as less hair is shed.

Sorry for the loss of your two lovely Goldens. They sounded wonderful. Do you find many differences in temperament between the Goldens and your Lab?