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I'd wait till they're moved on again and then take the gate off or put something in the way.

I would not move, rehome nor touch or do anything with them. At all.
 
What a pain in the ass! Don't really know what to suggest, but please don't release them on to the road, it's not fair on them or other road users.

Are you a member of BHS? If not it may be worth joining for the legal help, there must be something you can do that doesn't result in horses suffering or your house getting burned down. It disgusts me that people can do this and there should be more laws in place to give people like you a way to deal with this problem. Why the ****** should you have to feed/worry about someone elses horses, it's your field, you may be saving it for feeding your own ect....:mad:
 
Are the owners Travelers passing through or are they established locals. If it is the former then they will move on and life will return to normal.If the latter then you have a real problem.
 
yeah don't just shove them out of the field, or cut off the water supply etc, these are harmless ponies that are not at fault.
I would be pretty irritated if someone left horses on my land etc but you cant blame the animals or make them suffer for it.
The notice advice sounds the way to go, but do contact the rspca and the police, you may need back up if the owners get nasty.
We get Gypsies leaving their horses at the side of the road on any patch of grass, they look a right state, have gone past a few with a police car driving in front of me, they don't do anything.
 
i think i would sit out all night just to catch them out of anger. that is sooooooo bad. how rude and just darn right cheeky to do that. i had a horse dumped in field one time, i mentioned to owner of land we rent. we where in middle of field and we said that we where going to report this to cruelty as horse had no water and showing signs of colic. then we found out a local livery had it for trainning and boy never paid they told him to throw it in our field. i was raging and to make thinkgs worse horse had colic before was put in field and they left it there. we left, to come back up with head collar to help horse and field owner just was about to phone and report it when looked out her window boy must have been waiting in a near by field and listening to what we where saying, land owner went out and stopped boy to question him, he spilled all bout livery owner told him to put it there and said horse had colic and no water. he said he was skint didnt know what to do, but had something sorted, he took off with horse and land owner reported to police ect. but what the cheek of livery doing that and poor horse had colic and was put in a field with lush green grass and no water.

if i was you i would wrap up well and wait for them with someone else and have police on standby to catch them even video field to have proof.
 
I'd wait till they're moved on again and then take the gate off or put something in the way.

I would not move, rehome nor touch or do anything with them. At all.

Are the owners Travelers passing through or are they established locals. If it is the former then they will move on and life will return to normal.If the latter then you have a real problem.

Please don't try to remove them. I know it's a total pain, we have the same issue next door to the yard, old bloke owns the land, they took the gate completely out of the hinges to get the ponies in, threatened the land owner who was infirm and unable to do anything. Cops can do nowt cos it's a civil trespass matter. You will have to wait or take out the fencing and make the field unsafe as soon as they move them again. (OH did this one night in a field backing onto the A41 at the owner's insistence once the travellers moved the ponies)
 
Could you ring the RSPCA and say that the horses have been dumped, end of. Noone is going to check on them or water them. And you have no water supply to that field (wink wink). The RSPCA could seize the horses as abandoned... That is if you can actually get them to get off their asses to do something.
 
Cinnamon - I said not to remove them...I said wait until they are moved on again and then make the field unsuitable, ie, no gate at all and[or]rubble/hardcore/tanker/all the normal stuff put in the way. :)

Don't be waiting round for a stand off no matter how pissed you are, that is a ludicrous idea, just as much as rehoming them is.

I hope you resolve it.

ETA...I think my brain just kicked in gear and you quoted them to just re-say them Cinnamon....I think?
 
Cops can do nowt cos it's a civil trespass matter.

Cops will do nowt because they dont want the hassle. There are numerous criminal implications but they would choose to ignore them .. If you let them.Puts me in mind of a little incident when travellers decided to move on to a sports field next to our stables.I saw the woman who cut the lock ,I could identify her. Called police. Two zombie police idiots arrive ......eventualy!By then ,caravans are streaming in.They say (him and her, police *****) oh you cant do anything because it would be against the law!My comment was "criminal justice ,public order act.and if you dont get an adult here in the next five minutes it is going to go very badly on you!"Suddenly it goes up the chain of command. Next thing ,a serious rank arrives. I quote the regulation and ask " can you enforce the law or has it broken down beyond your recovery!"In very short order 100 tsg arrive in full riot gear , 3 helicopters . Result Field clear,and incidentaly local travelers quietly gratefull because they wont cop the flack for these aresholes! Final laugh was the shocked looks on the original police zombies faces.
 
Cops will do nowt because they dont want the hassle. There are numerous criminal implications but they would choose to ignore them .. If you let them.Puts me in mind of a little incident when travellers decided to move on to a sports field next to our stables.I saw the woman who cut the lock ,I could identify her. Called police. Two zombie police idiots arrive ......eventualy!By then ,caravans are streaming in.They say (him and her, police *****) oh you cant do anything because it would be against the law!My comment was "criminal justice ,public order act.and if you dont get an adult here in the next five minutes it is going to go very badly on you!"Suddenly it goes up the chain of command. Next thing ,a serious rank arrives. I quote the regulation and ask " can you enforce the law or has it broken down beyond your recovery!"In very short order 100 tsg arrive in full riot gear , 3 helicopters . Result Field clear,and incidentaly local travelers quietly gratefull because they wont cop the flack for these aresholes! Final laugh was the shocked looks on the original police zombies faces.

100 TSG? 3 helicopters? Full riot gear?
Really Mike, you need to take more water with it!
 
Ill have this one :D

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this is the mare that i thought waz the nicest lookin 1 outta them all and thought would look rather nice in hand in the show ring, sorry but shez in my dads feild so kinda think i already had dibs on her LOL sorry 2 say =] x
 
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I know ,it sounds unlikely, sounds ammusing,buthey ho , I won they lost!Perhaps all those guys streaming in with riot shields and visors were merely my imagination. But in the morning the field was empty so who is laughing!
 
In the case....May i come live you you :D

HAHA y not lol, thats if u can get ne where near em 2 catch as all 4 of em were scared of me when i went dwn the feild with the father yesterday as we got told by hear say they were their and all of them were petrified of human contact bar the lil black 1 who waz still scared but more inquiative and actually came over n sniffed my hand.
 
Is it just me or does she look like she's in foal?! ;) :p :D

well yes their waz that think but then also u dnt no how they have been kept previously and bein gypo ponies it could b dwn to a large worm infestation but i spose would need close looking at to find out but been as u can hardly get near her it could b hard 2 tell.
 
Of course she'll probably be in foal, mare's job mainly and a nice little stamp of one at that. :)
As for worm infestation, please don't generalise it on the whole as all immediate ones I'm aware of are all wormed up to date from the start. Not all I'm sure...but just saying ones I know are kept on top of,the stallions especially need all the strength they can get for the covering season.

But again, I hope you get it sorted! Keep us updated and definately foal pics wanted if one does pop out overnight sometime ;)
 
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Of course she'll probably be in foal, mare's job mainly and a nice little stamp of one at that. :)
As for worm infestation, please don't generalise it on the whole as all immediate ones I'm aware of are all wormed up to date from the start. Not all I'm sure...but just saying ones I know are kept on top of,the stallions especially need all the strength they can get for the covering season.

But again, I hope you get it sorted!



aye well their all money on the hoof really in they so wouldnt suprise me if she waz in foal.
 
HAHA y not lol, thats if u can get ne where near em 2 catch as all 4 of em were scared of me when i went dwn the feild with the father yesterday as we got told by hear say they were their and all of them were petrified of human contact bar the lil black 1 who waz still scared but more inquiative and actually came over n sniffed my hand.

Awww :( Ill do my best :D
 
I know ,it sounds unlikely, sounds ammusing,buthey ho , I won they lost!Perhaps all those guys streaming in with riot shields and visors were merely my imagination. But in the morning the field was empty so who is laughing!

I believe you, police wouldnt go into the local council run site near our old place without helicopters and armed support. By the time they ever went in 'John Smith' had long since melted away along with the neighbourhoods belongings. The fly grazed horses were never the guy you caught with them either, always his cousins....hmmm.
 
HAHA y not lol, thats if u can get ne where near em 2 catch as all 4 of em were scared of me when i went dwn the feild with the father yesterday as we got told by hear say they were their and all of them were petrified of human contact bar the lil black 1 who waz still scared but more inquiative and actually came over n sniffed my hand.

For heaven's sake, you have totally tipped me over the edge. Get a spell checker or make a little more effort. Please
 
AS i have stated before, speak to the council and find out who the traveller liaison officer is there has to be one in every local authority.
This person will be dealing with the travellers on a daily basis, and they are really your only hope of sorting this situation out.
Either that or you leave it be and every year for the foreseeable future they will being in your field for x amount of months
Taking the gate off or removing some fencing after they have taken the ponies away will not prevent it form happening again, most of the travelling community are builders by trade a bit of missing fencing is not a deterrent in the slightest.
Also people as much as some travelers can be a law unto themselves, there is no need to stereotype them all, i have seen many traveller ponies looking in far better condition than a lot of ponies at livery yards, many travellers will still get a vet to drench a pony for worms once a year which i agree is one of the best methods of a worming programme
 
Could you ring the RSPCA and say that the horses have been dumped, end of. Noone is going to check on them or water them. And you have no water supply to that field (wink wink). The RSPCA could seize the horses as abandoned... That is if you can actually get them to get off their asses to do something.

Yep my experience too. Even if you can get them to come out, their standard 'this is not cruelty as there has been no..... is a complete pain. You have to wait until horse is staggering and falling over before they do anything at all.
 
gypsys/travellers can really do what they want im afraid and police dont want to get involved ,paperwork, accused of discrimination, etc ,, if they have been in since january , thats a long time if you go down illegal route ie, removing fencing, locks , they can /will retaliate twenty year ago settled travellers grazed horses on a field owned by a housing agency think it was but greenbelt at the end of an estate the problems caused by these horses going riot etc in the end the y fenced it off the owners of field ,housing comitee lovely wooden fencing and they are still there today free of charge to stop them running riot on the private estate .
If you go to court it will take ages and cost lots i really feel sorry for you .
You could put pic in dragon driving were they all frequent to buy and sell cost you five pound saying found if not collected within fourteen days/whatever the council will sell them at auction , see if that works .
To me it looks like if they have bought youngsters and put them in field now its for the long stay over winter at least .Its unfortunatly not the horses fault ,but maybe if you do use sheep and lots of they might move them , hopefully not into another of your fields ?ps rspca wont do anything as they look really well
 
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