Girl Hitting Grey Pony

VikingSong said:
Having lived in Wales, I was frequently referred to as a "foreigner" and my family experienced a lot of jingoism. My gorgeous sister was pushed down a flight of stairs, in which she broke her arm, by a Welsh lad who called her an "English pig" and told her to "**** off back to England." I also can't recall of any time where English people were petrol bombing the homes of Welsh folk living in England (how quickly people forget...) nor have we English ever held a "keep England tidy, dump your rubbish in Wales" campaign (again, how quickly people forget...).
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Sorry I know I shouldn't be starting on this one but I have to say the "keep Wales tidy, dump your rubbish in England" thing was not a campaign. It was a one cartoon by a cartoonist in the Western Mail. i.e. a joke. It got reproduced as car stickers or on mugs etc but it was never a campaign!
 
annagain said:
Sorry I know I shouldn't be starting on this one but I have to say the "keep Wales tidy, dump your rubbish in England" thing was not a campaign. It was a one cartoon by a cartoonist in the Western Mail. i.e. a joke. It got reproduced as car stickers or on mugs etc but it was never a campaign!
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It reminds me of a joke that appeared on TV's Not the Nine O'Clock News satirical comedy show some years ago (1980 or so, I believe). In a parody of coal fire adverts being shown at the time, they had the line "Come home to a real fire... buy a cottage in Wales". This was a reference to what we would nowadays call terrorist actions of the Welsh nationalist group Meibion Glyndŵr and others in which incendiary bombs were used to set alight and destroy holiday homes owned by English "foreigners".
 
be positive said:
It works and any editing does not cut out her hitting it numerous times, as far as I can tell it is the same as the original video.
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The only editing in that version is the blurring of the perpetrator's face; pretty pointless seeing as there are photos of her all over the article. The visual and sound elements of what's actually happening are completely intact, which nullifies the "she only hit him once" argument. Not entirely sure what they were trying to achieve with the article to be honest.

I hope that she and her parents face the full force of the law and any animals in their "care" are removed. I also sincerely hope that any would-be vigilantes and/or the RSPCA don't jeopardise the case by doing something stupid...
 
annagain said:
I think we called them terrorist actions then too!
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Quite possibly! The 1984 Brighton Hotel bombing certainly was. Whether the arson attacks of Meibion Glyndŵr were described as terrorism when property rather than people were targeted, I'm not so sure.
 
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ThursdayNext said:
Bad horsemanship isn't a crime... Lots of training methods are ineffectual/sometimes implemented ineffectually.

And being hit for not listening /is/ a punishment really. You might think it is an acceptable or effective one but it is still inflicting pain (or discomfort) after undesired behaviour.

I'm not condoning the girl but I think relying on common sense being common might be a bit optimistic...

Most people don't any longer thinking hitting adults with sticks is acceptable, many don't think training children that way is... Social change is possible but sometimes (as with the adoption of the seat belt laws) it can be hastened by those in authority setting boundaries.
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Certainly in religious communities the old adage; 'Spare the rod and spoil the child' was accepted behaviour/discipline. I went to school before corporal punishment was abolished and 'six of the best' were rarely meted out on the same day.

The people threatening this woman's family and children are no better than she is. I agree, the irony must be completely lost on them.

We all own whips, lots of different types. You may say you never need to use them but that's because the horse knows exactly how they feel and is offering behaviours he hopes will stop them being used again.

We have a blood rule in competition. That's because not even those at the top of their game can always control their emotions. Think carefully about whether you are in a position to cast stones.

We've all, at some time, met challenging animal reactions with an equal and opposite reaction (Newtons Law). Unfortunately it's only when you've had experience of a truly reactive animal that you realise it doesn't work.

People who can't control their emotions have no place around animals or people for that matter.IMO
 
What disturbs me the most about this is that this young girl not only seems to have no remorse for her actions, but seems to have never been told what she is doing is wrong and encouraged by her parents to treat horses this way. I can't believe she has gone her whole life believing it's acceptable to treat any living creature like this.

I can imagine this isn't a one off incident, it's just one that has been filmed. No smoke without fire and all that.

I am sure that we all have had moments where we are angry at ourselves or our horses, but it is not an excuse and we should know to take a step back when we start to feel that way. What makes this worse is that IF, and it is a big if, this girl did ride this pony, she then got off him, untacked him, tied him up then started beating him. To me, that sounds like at some point she planned to beat the poor pony. I'm not surprised he was bucking, he was probably terrified.
 
sasquatch said:
What makes this worse is that IF, and it is a big if, this girl did ride this pony, she then got off him, untacked him, tied him up then started beating him. To me, that sounds like at some point she planned to beat the poor pony. I'm not surprised he was bucking, he was probably terrified.
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I understand that the pony wasn't broken, and that what she's doing in the video is part of trying to break it (noting the irony of the term!).

By, apparently, hopping on from behind while it's tied up, and then loosing her ***** when it freaks out.
 
The pony in the video (Emry) was sold through a local mart today, and the girl/family responsible for the abuse (Chloe Williams etc.) apparently bought two more ponies at Brecon mart recently. RSPCA seem to have given up trying to do anything.
 
DirectorFury said:
The pony in the video (Emry) was sold through a local mart today, and the girl/family responsible for the abuse (Chloe Williams etc.) apparently bought two more ponies at Brecon mart recently. RSPCA seem to have given up trying to do anything.
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Let's hope the little scrap went to a good home.
 
amymay said:
Apparently the pony was purchased from the meat man by Trallwn Sanctuary.
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I've just read that, well i read that they "rescued him" and they are now asking for donations! I Didn't realise rescues were in such short supply that sanctuaries are having to resort to buying horses at auction then beg for money to buy more. Is this an actual genuine charity/sanctuary or another one of those crazies like the beeston lot a few years back?
 
rowan666 said:
I've just read that, well i read that they "rescued him" and they are now asking for donations! I Didn't realise rescues were in such short supply that sanctuaries are having to resort to buying horses at auction then beg for money to buy more. Is this an actual genuine charity/sanctuary or another one of those crazies like the beeston lot a few years back?
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They do appear to be a bonafide rescue.
 
Utterly disgusting, the one who was beating her pony and the one sitting on a foal,should not have horses, clearly cant be trusted!!
That grey was WAY too small for her, no wonder it was bucking.
 
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I thought bona fide rescue charities were not permitted to buy horses?

I guess they're not registered as a charity. But I remember being told that years ago there was an East Anglian "rescue" that bought ponies frm meat markets and the dealers realised they were on to a sure thing, so bought ponies, stuck them in a barn till they were unkempt, starved and in a bad way, then took them to the meat market and collected £££££ from the rescue.

Definitely not a good idea.
 
FrankieCob said:
I cant see them asking for donations for him on their page? Hes been rehomed already as a companion apparently.

Hes been rehomed already as a companion.
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Im not on their page but there's a post about it on chit chat and tack, they do say he's been rehomed yes and asking for donations to help others. To me though it's ridiculous to be buying horses from auction unless that was a one off because they thought with him being 'famous' they could use him to get more exposure and generate more income, I still think it's unnacceptable for rescues to be buying horses
 
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I left a comment last night on the post n chit chat and tack and they have replied saying that the pony never went to auction in the first place?? So to the people who saw him there, you must have been seeing things! He apparently never went to meet either and was 'bought by privatly raised funds not charity funds' ?? Bloody odd if you ask me and since he was bought privately they have directly lines the pockets of that girl who then went on to buy more
 
Wow, a good result for a change. I hope it stands as an example to others who are tempted to take out their anger on animals.
 
What I don't get is the girl saying she only hit it a few times, the video is there clear to see! Great to see that they have not let them off lightly.
 
What an excellent result; 3 months in a young offenders institution for Chloe Morgan and 4 months custodial sentence for Paul Williams (albeit suspended for a year) Plus 120 hours unpaid work, £400 fine and £115 victim surcharge, for both of them. Not forgetting the disqualification order imposed, to prevent either of them keeping any animals for the next 8 years.

Well done to Judge Parsons for taking this case so seriously and for actually considering a custodial sentence for this nasty pair. And of course, congratulations for a job well done to the RSPCA and the investigating officer(s) who brought this prosecution to court - a great result.
 
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