Happy Days For ISH Breeders

Well he's gone to Dermott Lennon now and will be with him for the forseeable future and he's just beginning to pop him around some 1.50m classes to get to know him.

I rode him at a show last year. His previous rider Paul O'Shea, asked me if I'd sit up and keep him loose before the class because he had another horse to warm up. Then he said since I was up there, I might as well warm him up!!! Yeah ... so he ended up winning the class. I think it was the way I warmed him up :cool: He has such power! He's my favourite horse on the circuit at the minute.

Maybe if Dermott doesn't get on with him, and since Paul is heading to the US in August, I might be able to convince the powers that be to give him to me! :D

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Hoof pastern axis ... Huh???
 
Eothain said:
Maybe if Dermott doesn't get on with him, and since Paul is heading to the US in August, I might be able to convince the powers that be to give him to me! :D

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Hoof pastern axis ... Huh???
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Are you dreaming again Eothain?;)

Hoof pastern axis
http://comps.fotosearch.com/comp/LIF/LIF146/hoof-pastern-axis_~MVA21041.jpg
:D maybe I'm being picky as it's a warmblood but he just looks a bit long and springy in the back pasterns:D:rolleyes:

As said before though as long as it doesn't affect competition results, some conformation faults can be forgiven if put to the right mare.
 
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Simsar, your come-back post summarising 55-odd pages of this thread :cool: was grand... all except for your conclusion though :p

I'm still with Eothain on the value of the use of European Warbloods to revive the IHS!
 
Eothain said:
As for the Warmblood books, well I know for a fact that the WSI is not interested in ever registering more than about 200 - 250 foals per year. It's almost a private studbook and to be honest, I wish them the very best of good luck. I can see myself signing up as a member at some stage to support them but I'll always be an ISH man. For the WSI is all about having a higher percentage of jumpers to foals registered than any other studbook. Their focus is second to none.
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Conor/Eothain understands the focus and strategy of the Warmblood Studbook of Ireland (WSI) but in one respect his statement may be misinterpreted by some. The WSI is NOT a private studbook; it is an exclusive studbook, meaning that we only include horses that meet our strict criteria and we exclude everything else.

We wish there were more mares and stallions in Ireland that meet our strict criteria. Unfortunately that is not the case. But we are always interested in inspecting stallions and mares that meet our criteria for entry into the studbook. The criteria can be found on the WSI homepage (www.irish-warmblood.com) in downloadable files.
 
GinnieRedwings said:
Simsar, your come-back post summarising 55-odd pages of this thread :cool: was grand... all except for your conclusion though :p
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55 pages! :eek: I've only got 15 pages! :p You mustn't have changed your settings of posts per page, you can have up to 40 posts instead of the default 15/20 per page, makes them much easier to read. Go to Quick Links (on the right above) or left hand side, User CP , > edit options and you'll find it down the page somewhere.

If the 55 was very tongue in cheek, forget I said anything, lol!
 
Of course it does!!! I must be a dumb blonde as opposed to a D--------. Not much difference at this end of the day.

However, off to Valencia later today for a horse free week. Never ends up that way ----- cue girl child whining for Baroque Andalusian that dishes like a bitch!!

It has only taken a month of logistics to get away and of course the 4 year crocked his fetlock with a juicy cut this week so we are still injecting and buteing to the last minute. Sets his jumping season back a month. Three year old has been attacked by a wandering Jack donkey who also impregnated a local pony (the resulting foal is cute as a button with ears even Hilly would not want to compete with - is it a jennet or mule?, haven't a clue).

Two mares scanned last night on 17 days, both had silent short cycles and had ovulated couple of days ago b****r and b******s. How mad is it we scanned six mares only one in foal. The two of mine that were scanned usually have their backsides in any male horse face squirting squealing and tarting and showed nothing despite being teased from day 15. Frustrating.

So see you guys later - keep the thread alive!!!!!!:)
 
Welcome back Simsar I've missed you!
On the lack of big strong NH type SH suitable TB's-we are the world leaders in racing. Something like 7 out of the top 10 TB stallions in the world stand in Ireland. Not too bad! Yes I agree the good rangy NH Tb stallion has all but disappeared but needs must-i'm not defending hte decline but people have to make money and will produce what's demanded. Ireland is the 3rdlargest producer of TB's after America and Australia-no mean feat for a little island.
Much as I'd love a nice strong NH Tb stallion to inject some scope into the ISH I'm afraid I just don't think it's going to happen :( so i'm afraid I'd be with Eothain in the need for injecting some dumbblood i mean warmblood in. I'd go for French blood only as they suit the Irish horse well-see Touchdown.
And i will never be convinced of the need for various warmblood studbooks sorry Tom Reed but best of luck to them anyway.
Anyway think i'm just repeating myself all over again-loving that this thread has come back to life!!
 
Speaking of TB sires with tons of bone and substance, does anyone know what became of Hawk Wing? I always thought he was a wonderful type, but a bit expensive for sporthorse breeders to bring mares to while he was standing at Coolmore.

Our big broodmare Always Pleasing is closely related - perhaps "very similarly bred" is more accurate - and she certainly produces the goods. Big, strapping, classy and talented, and her best have been when bred to RID sires.
 
Yeah I second Eothain. Even if you had the money they wouldn't let their millionS of euro stallions sully themselves covering sporthorse mares. Pity. Imagine if Presenting was available...oh the possibilities!!
Actually the more I think about it-obviously not Coolmore but smaller studs maybe-it kind of makes sense economically to let the sports horse industry use racing stallions-not for natural cover obviously but releasing a few straws can't hurt anyone surely? Stalion man gets a few extra euro in the pocket, SH breeders get a better class of TB?
 
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Actually the more I think about it-obviously not Coolmore but smaller studs maybe-it kind of makes sense economically to let the sports horse industry use racing stallions-not for natural cover obviously but releasing a few straws can't hurt anyone surely? Stallion man gets a few extra euro in the pocket, SH breeders get a better class of TB?
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Why not Coolmore, Darley etc???? This would certainly up the anti in SH breeding and would show the GOOD TB's true versatility surely? I can't see that it could do any harm, you could still have nominations for them and then they could pick out the creme-de-la creme and still ask good money for the service, I do understand that some of these stallions cover several hundred mares and so it might not be possible to cover allot of SH mares but they could limit them.

Might send them an email and see if they will do concessions for Fat old cobs;):p:D
 
Simsar said:
Might send them an email and see if they will do concessions for Fat old cobs;):p:D
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LOL!! It makes good sense to me but it'll never happen. I can guarantee that. They're too big, there's a too much of a gulf between the TB an SH breeding, too much money involved, reputations, Blah Blah blah. But it would be class. I mean those stallions have books of 300+ and a few straws collected amongst them isn't going to hurt anyone. I wish it would happen. But it won't. Not with the big boys anyway :(
 
Reading this part of the post rings a bell with me that i'm sure i did read somewhere that Kayif Tara ( i'm positive thats who it was ) had covered sport horse mare/mare's but they still had to pay the £4,500 stud fee at that particular time. Even if the top stallions were available it perhaps wouldn't be finacially viable for most. Such a pity .
 
if we can't get the horses themselves what about their sons
if a WEALTHY stallion owner went out and bought colts by the likes of presenting etc.if and horse can sire a cheltenham gold cup winner then couldn't his son sire a horse to jump grand prix
 
Google "Jan Greve" and read the Horse World Magazine interview with him. Don't have time to post link now.

I'm inclined to agree with what he says. Just on my way out the door, don't have time to go into detail.

It'll open a lot of peoples eyes I'm sure. This dude knows what he's talking about!!!
 
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