amyneave
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i was there, told he was really upset about what happen to Dunager and didn't want to have to ride MD, so withdraw. maybe i'm wrong but thats what i heard
Harry Meade and Dunauger
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henryhorn
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Having now seen the refusal etc I am convinced that horse was tying up , it just seemed so reluctant to move at all.
I'll bet the bloods show that...
I'll bet the bloods show that...
Waardy
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I was at Burghley yesterday stood directly in front of the fence were Dunauger was stuck, It was a disgrace the horse was absolutely shattered, He took a turn away from the fence and he apeared to be retiring, the crowd started to clap and stupidly he turned back and tried to jump the fence. Dunauger tried but just couldn`t get of the ground, He wants
banning for a year, Disgrace !
banning for a year, Disgrace !
amyneave
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everyone is slating harry, but it was just a mistake and bad judment. Everyone makes mistakes. i can't think of top riders who in there younger days made mistakes like harry did and there horses died, they didn't get banned.
Gonetofrance
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everyone is slating harry, but it was just a mistake and bad judment. Everyone makes mistakes. i can't think of top riders who in there younger days made mistakes like harry did and there horses died, they didn't get banned.
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But perhaps they should have?
everyone is slating harry, but it was just a mistake and bad judment. Everyone makes mistakes. i can't think of top riders who in there younger days made mistakes like harry did and there horses died, they didn't get banned.
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But perhaps they should have?
henryhorn
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I winced at the speed Laura appeared to approach the fence she fell at, but then watched open mouthed as Mary King did the same speed on King's Temptress and galloped on.
Yes, perhaps a little slower would have been better but remember she is young and inexperienced in comparison to MK and she got away with it.. if you make a mistake (or your horse does) at that speed it's inevitable a fall will follow, but in this case the horse didn't appear to jump high enough and paid the price.
I hope both aren't too stiff and sore after their fall, perhaps send it to those tv programmes that pay you for clips Laura, and get some benefit back!
Yes, perhaps a little slower would have been better but remember she is young and inexperienced in comparison to MK and she got away with it.. if you make a mistake (or your horse does) at that speed it's inevitable a fall will follow, but in this case the horse didn't appear to jump high enough and paid the price.
I hope both aren't too stiff and sore after their fall, perhaps send it to those tv programmes that pay you for clips Laura, and get some benefit back!
Saratoga
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Bad judgment from Harry....the horse was clearly knackered and he shouldn't have continued. So so glad the horse was ok, getting stuck on that fence could have resulted in a lot worse.
oldvic
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At 3 and 4* level there has to be cctv in control where the president of the ground jury is. There is direct radio contact to control so then it is up to individuals to react quickly when necessary. I agree that the time delay is a problem. If anyone has ideas for a better system, I'm sure the powers that be would listen. It is still the riders responsibility to pull up an exhausted horse. If officials have to make the judgement for them then they should at least have a yellow card.
glenruby
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Henry horn - agree with that. If something goes wrong at that speed a fall is inevitable. Im sure she will learn from that experience, she looks to be a very good rider.
Also agree with what Saratoga posted in the other post - thats pretty much what I had tried to say, only I couldnt put it so eloquently.
If no-one on here knew her, Im sure we would be reading a lot of less kind posts. If it happened to be AT, you lot would have her hanged, drawn and quartered by now - (perhaps it would be deserved for a 2nd offence tho). Not that Im advocating that!
Also agree with what Saratoga posted in the other post - thats pretty much what I had tried to say, only I couldnt put it so eloquently.
If no-one on here knew her, Im sure we would be reading a lot of less kind posts. If it happened to be AT, you lot would have her hanged, drawn and quartered by now - (perhaps it would be deserved for a 2nd offence tho). Not that Im advocating that!
Leg_end
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The horse was knackered, even my non horsey OH could see it. I'm sure anyone would realise that if your horse breaks into trot once that something maybe up.. to break stride, refuse, smack several fences would surely have rung some serious alarm bells somewhere?!
I hope Harry has learnt a horrible lesson from that. After all, they were both incredibly lucky to get away with it.. things could have ended a hell of a lot worse for horse and rider. Then he would have been in the same league as Ms Tyron (IMO)
I hope Harry has learnt a horrible lesson from that. After all, they were both incredibly lucky to get away with it.. things could have ended a hell of a lot worse for horse and rider. Then he would have been in the same league as Ms Tyron (IMO)
k1963
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I'm sorry , Harry fans , but I hope he loses the ride on the lovely Dunauger .
lucretia
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old vic, you are still posting the party line. no-one is disputing what 'should' be in control but this system was not just supposed to be applied to three and four star events as far as i can recall, so what happens at the others?
And as far as FEI events go, the CCTV is very hit and miss, i can think of one, at the levels you are talking about, in the last year, where the system was down for a significant period mid way through. and as i already said a member of the ground jury or similar, needs to be CONSTANTLY monitoring the coverage because, as also said earlier, the fence judges only see the horses for a few strides on the whole.
obviously riders should be able to make the desicion to pull up but i shouldnt expect you need me to list examples where that hasnt happened because the rider was 'in the zone' or whatever excuse is being used by them for their misjudgement. we were probably lucky the ground was good and the course short yesterday or chances are there would have been more in danger of offending yesterday . at the level we are talking about, one might like to think they have a certain level of experience, expertise and horsemanship, to make such monitoring needless........
At lower levels there is unlikely to be cctv coverage in a great many cases so the system is immediately flawed as was pointed out when this proposal was discussed originally. there have been various occasions when riders have been flagged down and stopped via radio though, which is well and good but sadly not on several highly visible occasions. As i also said before I really cant think of many officals who would flag down certain pro's which again automatically makes the system flawed.
and before you make a point of it, i have made already made several what i would like to think are constructive suggestions to the 'powers that be' about various safety aspects and doubtless will communicate about this one also, for all the llittle effect it has.
By the way, considering your comments regarding myself last night, i am highly amused that you still feel the need to continue to read and comment on my posts.
And as far as FEI events go, the CCTV is very hit and miss, i can think of one, at the levels you are talking about, in the last year, where the system was down for a significant period mid way through. and as i already said a member of the ground jury or similar, needs to be CONSTANTLY monitoring the coverage because, as also said earlier, the fence judges only see the horses for a few strides on the whole.
obviously riders should be able to make the desicion to pull up but i shouldnt expect you need me to list examples where that hasnt happened because the rider was 'in the zone' or whatever excuse is being used by them for their misjudgement. we were probably lucky the ground was good and the course short yesterday or chances are there would have been more in danger of offending yesterday . at the level we are talking about, one might like to think they have a certain level of experience, expertise and horsemanship, to make such monitoring needless........
At lower levels there is unlikely to be cctv coverage in a great many cases so the system is immediately flawed as was pointed out when this proposal was discussed originally. there have been various occasions when riders have been flagged down and stopped via radio though, which is well and good but sadly not on several highly visible occasions. As i also said before I really cant think of many officals who would flag down certain pro's which again automatically makes the system flawed.
and before you make a point of it, i have made already made several what i would like to think are constructive suggestions to the 'powers that be' about various safety aspects and doubtless will communicate about this one also, for all the llittle effect it has.
By the way, considering your comments regarding myself last night, i am highly amused that you still feel the need to continue to read and comment on my posts.
suzysparkle
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At Burgie this year I was asked from control via radio to stop a rider in the CCI 1* as the Horse was knackered. I was at a jump approx 2/3 of the way round. No idea who the rider was but I got a torrent of abuse from her. I had to stop another rider due to a problem further on and also got loads of abuse. She wasn't happy about being stopped or with where I'd stopped her time, despite it being the only point we could accurately stop the clock and it was plenty far enough away from the jump (jury said it was an ideal place).
I know emotions run high but sitting for over 12hrs does not deserve abuse. I would have hated to be asked to stop a 'big name' but I would have done it if asked to. I also think that at all levels if it's deemed the Horse is knackered then they should be stopped. In competition riders judgement can be impaired after all....as we saw at Burghley.
I know emotions run high but sitting for over 12hrs does not deserve abuse. I would have hated to be asked to stop a 'big name' but I would have done it if asked to. I also think that at all levels if it's deemed the Horse is knackered then they should be stopped. In competition riders judgement can be impaired after all....as we saw at Burghley.
FestiveSpirit
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I've stopped quite a few top level riders (not for bad riding, just for holds on the course as in your second example Suzysparkle) and they have always been lovely. Suzanna Bordone on Ava always stands out, she was so nice and chatty and polite
Mind you we did get a real mouthful from a certain Australian-would-like-to-ride for Britain eventer when ANOTHER fence judge (not us) gave one of his pupils 20 penalties
Couldnt get him to shut up long enough to explain that actually we werent judging that fence, we were just doing the radio for it
Mind you we did get a real mouthful from a certain Australian-would-like-to-ride for Britain eventer when ANOTHER fence judge (not us) gave one of his pupils 20 penalties
oldvic
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Everything that I have stated is fact, not anyones "line". FEI rules state that there must be cctv at 3 and 4 * events. If this breaks down for whatever reason should they stop the competition while it is fixed? A bit over the top I think! The president of the GJ does monitor it throughout the competition, assuming it is working, but at lower levels it is sadly not financially viable so officials have to do the best they can with the facilities and manpower available. However at these levels it is much easier to drive around and follow a competitor if necessary as the volume of spectators are less.
Cash
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Just watched the video (i'm a bit behind aren't i
) and i am appalled. He's a professional and should know better than to push a horse until it falls.
But that is my v inexperienced opinion, and i have seen some fantastic riding from him in the past.
But that is my v inexperienced opinion, and i have seen some fantastic riding from him in the past.
JanetGeorge
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couple of things just to straighten a copuple of people out.
the horse is not some fat hunter used to trotting round courses it has completed Chatsworth and blenheimn in front of me and certainly should not have been tiring by before its first stop which according to an eye witness and very experienced friend of mine it clearly was, they thought he would retire at the first stop which was the fence after where they were standing.
I know harry pretty well and like him but he made a big error of judgement here. he was damn lucky the outcome was not alot worse in which case we would all be having a very different conversation.
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I've now watched the video three times and I would agree that he was tiring coming up to the first stop - although he'd been full of running only a minute before - but I think the run-out was at least in-part (if not primarily) due to the angle. The next part of the course I thought Harry was nursing him - recognising he WAS tiring. That was good horsemanship - if you pulled up every horse that was tiring through a course there wouldn't be many finish!
Over the birch hedge he looked ok - and Harry brought him back to trot - before that last attempt. It appeared that he was in two minds whether to stop - or whether a breather was enough! With hindsight he made the wrong decision - and everyone seems to want to hang him for that one mistake!
If the horse had been THAT knackered, he would have stopped, I think. While he was obviously tired, I have seen FAR more exhausted horses than that finish a course safely!
Only the rider can really feel what is going on - and knows the horse well enough to make a judgement! Some horses WILL slow when they feel tired, get their 2nd wind, and go again. Some would keep going until they drop!
I thought Harry gave the horse a very good and sympathetic ride - right up until that last error of judgement. I would HOPE the owner doesn't hold it against him! I should add that Harry isn't a friend of mine - I've met him once and thought him a very courteous and pleasant young man. I've seen him ride several times, and thought him a sympathetic and very capable horseman. My opinion hasn't changed - he's human!
It is VERY easy to make judgements after the event - if the horse had cleared that fence and Harry had successfully nursed him home - I doubt if there would have been ANY criticism of his ride!
couple of things just to straighten a copuple of people out.
the horse is not some fat hunter used to trotting round courses it has completed Chatsworth and blenheimn in front of me and certainly should not have been tiring by before its first stop which according to an eye witness and very experienced friend of mine it clearly was, they thought he would retire at the first stop which was the fence after where they were standing.
I know harry pretty well and like him but he made a big error of judgement here. he was damn lucky the outcome was not alot worse in which case we would all be having a very different conversation.
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I've now watched the video three times and I would agree that he was tiring coming up to the first stop - although he'd been full of running only a minute before - but I think the run-out was at least in-part (if not primarily) due to the angle. The next part of the course I thought Harry was nursing him - recognising he WAS tiring. That was good horsemanship - if you pulled up every horse that was tiring through a course there wouldn't be many finish!
Over the birch hedge he looked ok - and Harry brought him back to trot - before that last attempt. It appeared that he was in two minds whether to stop - or whether a breather was enough! With hindsight he made the wrong decision - and everyone seems to want to hang him for that one mistake!
If the horse had been THAT knackered, he would have stopped, I think. While he was obviously tired, I have seen FAR more exhausted horses than that finish a course safely!
Only the rider can really feel what is going on - and knows the horse well enough to make a judgement! Some horses WILL slow when they feel tired, get their 2nd wind, and go again. Some would keep going until they drop!
I thought Harry gave the horse a very good and sympathetic ride - right up until that last error of judgement. I would HOPE the owner doesn't hold it against him! I should add that Harry isn't a friend of mine - I've met him once and thought him a very courteous and pleasant young man. I've seen him ride several times, and thought him a sympathetic and very capable horseman. My opinion hasn't changed - he's human!
It is VERY easy to make judgements after the event - if the horse had cleared that fence and Harry had successfully nursed him home - I doubt if there would have been ANY criticism of his ride!
TarrSteps
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As per suzysparkle and Splotchy's comment, perhaps there needs to be a hefty punishment for arguing a call and/or abusing a fence judge.
Personally I think it's up to the ride to pull up a tired horse BUT if BE is going to rely on the input of fence judges etc. then there has to be a system in place so they feel free to speak honestly.
Personally I think it's up to the ride to pull up a tired horse BUT if BE is going to rely on the input of fence judges etc. then there has to be a system in place so they feel free to speak honestly.
jumptoit
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I hope this is just the start of several things but incase any of you missed it - http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/288838.html
young_entry
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I was watching at the corners, where he had his original stop. Dunauger looked tired coming into the fence, and hit it quite hard, breaking some of the wood off. Harry looked like he was retiring him then, and many people were applauding him, then he picked up canter again and carried on.
And someone commented that apache sauce looked full of running finishing, but then he was held on course for around half an hour when dunauger got stuck, so would have had a bit of a rest, which may explain why he finished much better than many others.
And someone commented that apache sauce looked full of running finishing, but then he was held on course for around half an hour when dunauger got stuck, so would have had a bit of a rest, which may explain why he finished much better than many others.
FrecklesMum
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Have just watched the video and having read the comments on here, I went on expecting to view a exeptionally tired horse.
The horse seemed to go down hill almost between two fences, at one it looked fine and the next it looked tired.
I think that we have to take the level of riding and look at it objectively - if the accident had not happened would he have been critised for not retiring the horse?
I think no, the horse looked to me tired but not bloody knackered, if he had gone on and finished, I think a lot of people would be commenting on what a cracking 'nursing' round he had done and what great experience it was, etc etc.
It is difficult and prehaps I personally would not have continued, esp round a 4*, but I have seen a lot more, v v v tired horses going on both in eventing and hunting.
The horse seemed to go down hill almost between two fences, at one it looked fine and the next it looked tired.
I think that we have to take the level of riding and look at it objectively - if the accident had not happened would he have been critised for not retiring the horse?
I think no, the horse looked to me tired but not bloody knackered, if he had gone on and finished, I think a lot of people would be commenting on what a cracking 'nursing' round he had done and what great experience it was, etc etc.
It is difficult and prehaps I personally would not have continued, esp round a 4*, but I have seen a lot more, v v v tired horses going on both in eventing and hunting.
young_entry
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I was not meaning to criticise, he has much more knowledge and experience than me, just saying that I thought he might have retired at 16, and he did seem to be considering it. Also I dont think the fence judges at the fence were particularly impressed that he carried on. I think he has just made an error of judgement, which hopefully he has learnt from.
meandmyself
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Artypants [red]ok[/red] firstly its spelt THOUGHTLESS. no A needed
Dangerous and thoughtles riding hey. [red]i[/red] would put everything [red]i[/red] have one the line and say that L would do nothing that would endanger Con she is her baby, a horse she has taken up the levels who she loves a hell of a lot so i would say that is [red]ball coks[/red]
I still maintain it wasnt to fast she [red]wasnt pullin[/red] at con in the slightest nor was con fighting her, as downhill gallop to a big ditch/brush may have got her on the [red]for hand[/red] but she just wasn't [red]workin[/red] properly she almost [red]for got[/red] her back legs. [red]so i'd[/red] say [red]thats[/red] not [red]Lauras[/red] fault she got her there on a nice stride could have been more on her haunches but [red]i[/red] dont think it would have made to much of a diff as con just [red]dint[/red] take off.
And as [red]i[/red] have already said L will have re-ridden that fence a million time in her head but there may be more to what went on, look at Badders she jumped her socks of with a sore muscle in her hind quarters. And [red]i[/red] am sure she would be devastated if she thought she had put her darling mare at risk
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If you're going to trash someone else's spelling, you might want to take a look at your own first.
Artypants [red]ok[/red] firstly its spelt THOUGHTLESS. no A needed
Dangerous and thoughtles riding hey. [red]i[/red] would put everything [red]i[/red] have one the line and say that L would do nothing that would endanger Con she is her baby, a horse she has taken up the levels who she loves a hell of a lot so i would say that is [red]ball coks[/red]
I still maintain it wasnt to fast she [red]wasnt pullin[/red] at con in the slightest nor was con fighting her, as downhill gallop to a big ditch/brush may have got her on the [red]for hand[/red] but she just wasn't [red]workin[/red] properly she almost [red]for got[/red] her back legs. [red]so i'd[/red] say [red]thats[/red] not [red]Lauras[/red] fault she got her there on a nice stride could have been more on her haunches but [red]i[/red] dont think it would have made to much of a diff as con just [red]dint[/red] take off.
And as [red]i[/red] have already said L will have re-ridden that fence a million time in her head but there may be more to what went on, look at Badders she jumped her socks of with a sore muscle in her hind quarters. And [red]i[/red] am sure she would be devastated if she thought she had put her darling mare at risk
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If you're going to trash someone else's spelling, you might want to take a look at your own first.
punk
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Ha ha!! Wondered when that would be noticed
kerilli
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Dangerous and thoughtles riding hey. i would put everything i have one the line and say that L would do nothing that would endanger Con she is her baby, a horse she has taken up the levels who she loves a hell of a lot so i would say that is ball coks
I still maintain it wasnt to fast she wasnt pullin at con in the slightest nor was con fighting her, as downhill gallop to a big ditch/brush may have got her on the for hand but she just wasn't workin properly she almost for got her back legs. so i'd say thats not Lauras fault she got her there on a nice stride could have been more on her haunches but i dont think it would have made to much of a diff as con just dint take off.
And as i have already said L will have re-ridden that fence a million time in her head but there may be more to what went on, look at Badders she jumped her socks of with a sore muscle in her hind quarters. And i am sure she would be devastated if she thought she had put her darling mare at risk
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just because she wasn't pulling at Con, and vice versa, doesn't mean it was the right approach. it just means she didn't interfere with the pace they were at. Con didn't 'forget her back legs', she couldn't get them under herself enough because her front end was running away from her down the hill. watch it again and tell me that you don't think it is unbalanced. It isn't about SPEED, you can go in fast and balanced and have a great jump... many did. but downhill to a big fence, very much on the forehand... you'd have to be sitting on something with wings to be safe! incredibly lucky that Con is so great in front and got that end out of the way.
i am not trying to slate Laura, i think she did a good job at a lot of the fences, through the previous combination for e.g. they were great. she didn't mean to endanger Connie, we all know that. it was a mistake imho, and i know we can all make those, and do.
just as proof that i'm impartial... usually i'd say that WFP is an eventing God but i thought he rode at the Leaf Pit far too fast on Mac, frightened him, and he was rattled enough to still be all over the place at the Land Rover fence. I don't see W make a mistake very often but that was one imho, chasing the time that early on, to a huge drop. those that came slightly slower to the drop mostly did a lovely job of it, of those i've watched, Jeanette's stands out.
to Artypants, who said
"As for trotting into a corner, ANY 4* horse should be able to jump a corner from trot, i know mine can."
there is a ginormous difference between a horse trotting into a corner because the rider has brought it back to trot and then ridden it forward in trot, and a horse that has dropped off the bridle to trot in spite of the rider's urgings, and gets there in trot, behind the leg. this is the really crucial difference.
Dangerous and thoughtles riding hey. i would put everything i have one the line and say that L would do nothing that would endanger Con she is her baby, a horse she has taken up the levels who she loves a hell of a lot so i would say that is ball coks
I still maintain it wasnt to fast she wasnt pullin at con in the slightest nor was con fighting her, as downhill gallop to a big ditch/brush may have got her on the for hand but she just wasn't workin properly she almost for got her back legs. so i'd say thats not Lauras fault she got her there on a nice stride could have been more on her haunches but i dont think it would have made to much of a diff as con just dint take off.
And as i have already said L will have re-ridden that fence a million time in her head but there may be more to what went on, look at Badders she jumped her socks of with a sore muscle in her hind quarters. And i am sure she would be devastated if she thought she had put her darling mare at risk
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just because she wasn't pulling at Con, and vice versa, doesn't mean it was the right approach. it just means she didn't interfere with the pace they were at. Con didn't 'forget her back legs', she couldn't get them under herself enough because her front end was running away from her down the hill. watch it again and tell me that you don't think it is unbalanced. It isn't about SPEED, you can go in fast and balanced and have a great jump... many did. but downhill to a big fence, very much on the forehand... you'd have to be sitting on something with wings to be safe! incredibly lucky that Con is so great in front and got that end out of the way.
i am not trying to slate Laura, i think she did a good job at a lot of the fences, through the previous combination for e.g. they were great. she didn't mean to endanger Connie, we all know that. it was a mistake imho, and i know we can all make those, and do.
just as proof that i'm impartial... usually i'd say that WFP is an eventing God but i thought he rode at the Leaf Pit far too fast on Mac, frightened him, and he was rattled enough to still be all over the place at the Land Rover fence. I don't see W make a mistake very often but that was one imho, chasing the time that early on, to a huge drop. those that came slightly slower to the drop mostly did a lovely job of it, of those i've watched, Jeanette's stands out.
to Artypants, who said
"As for trotting into a corner, ANY 4* horse should be able to jump a corner from trot, i know mine can."
there is a ginormous difference between a horse trotting into a corner because the rider has brought it back to trot and then ridden it forward in trot, and a horse that has dropped off the bridle to trot in spite of the rider's urgings, and gets there in trot, behind the leg. this is the really crucial difference.
Saratoga
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Agree with everything kerilli said above
Baydale
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I have to confess to not having watched it yet, but am getting a pretty consistent picture from the comments on here. I agree, in the main, with the above comments. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and all that... I'm not suggesting that anyone on here has pressed a tired horse but I'm pretty sure we've all made judgments which were wrong. One bad decision doesn't make a bad/cruel person...
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Quite right TD, we have a saying in our house when one of us criticises the other: "like you're so effing perfect....".
On a more serious note, this seems to be yet another post that has brought out the worst in people, either by their holier-than-thou attitude or that they seem to get off on joining in a slightly frenzied, hysterical and outraged debate. Unfortunately that for me has over-ridden the more important aspects of this incident which are rider responsibility and horse welfare. Shame really, as I often find posts of this type thought-provoking and stimulating, but there's far too much dross to wade through in this one.
I have to confess to not having watched it yet, but am getting a pretty consistent picture from the comments on here. I agree, in the main, with the above comments. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, and all that... I'm not suggesting that anyone on here has pressed a tired horse but I'm pretty sure we've all made judgments which were wrong. One bad decision doesn't make a bad/cruel person...
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Quite right TD, we have a saying in our house when one of us criticises the other: "like you're so effing perfect....".
On a more serious note, this seems to be yet another post that has brought out the worst in people, either by their holier-than-thou attitude or that they seem to get off on joining in a slightly frenzied, hysterical and outraged debate. Unfortunately that for me has over-ridden the more important aspects of this incident which are rider responsibility and horse welfare. Shame really, as I often find posts of this type thought-provoking and stimulating, but there's far too much dross to wade through in this one.
HorseSeekersUK
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Does anyone know if Harry has made a statement / commented on what happened? It would be interesting to hear what he had to say don't you think?
M_G
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All I can think is what an honest brave horse for trying to clear the jump, I would liked to have seen the rider retire about 3 fences before when the horse jumped very badly over the corner.
I am just glad no one horse or rider was hurt
I am just glad no one horse or rider was hurt
hezza1
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just watched the video, the crowd started to clap when he circled in trot i think they thought he was going to retire and he should have, poor horse !
