HHO's "Bear" project pony...
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Michen
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My connie grew from a wimpy looking 14.3 to a very chunky 6yr old 15.1 and a bit
hmmm. He doesn’t have much bone. And he’s just quite a petite little thing, I can’t see he’s going to make Boggle/Bear sort of height. He’s like a big pony (although moves well) rather than a small horse.
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I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
I like him.
He will likely grow a bit too.
I also like Bear, but it seems you have your eye facing outward where he is concerned.
He will likely grow a bit too.
I also like Bear, but it seems you have your eye facing outward where he is concerned.
Michen
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Do you think? My friend is really torn about selling him. She needs something minimum Boggle size but this guy is just really spindly- even if he grew he doesn’t have the same bone that Bog has (actually more than Bear!)
Am not really serious about friends youngster much as I like him. No point swapping a 4yo for a 3yo.
I have Boggles jockey coming back to start with Bear this week. I’ll still school him too but I think it’ll help to have her get him going, get him out doing a dressage test in autumn etc and start having a bit more fun with him. I don’t have any intentions to put him up for sale again at the moment.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
He'll get a lot bigger yet and it's clear that Bear is not a horse you want to keep at the moment.
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Michen
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He’s too young though. I’d have to back and turn away, so he’d be no more rideable really than Boggle! Would be pointless. I do like him though
It’s not really about not wanting to keep Bear, just that I desperately miss riding Boggle.
I am going to put the effort in and invest a bit with Bear, just like I did with Bog, and we will see!
HashRouge
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I really think you should do this. You didn't love Boggle straight awayHe’s too young though. I’d have to back and turn away, so he’d be no more rideable really than Boggle! Would be pointless. I do like him though
It’s not really about not wanting to keep Bear, just that I desperately miss riding Boggle.
I am going to put the effort in and invest a bit with Bear, just like I did with Bog, and we will see!
Michen
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Michen
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So Boggle this morning spent 5 minutes before I could get back hold of him galloping and cantering around bucking, rearing, sliding to a stop. Needless to say he was very chuffed and I sweared a lot. Don’t even ask how that happened ?
Consequently he was marginally more lame this eve for vet than 2 weeks ago, though vet said actually he wasn’t too disappointed with that given what he’d done that morning. So, he’s going out for 6 weeks in small paddock then reassess. Right down the bottom end of the fields away from everyone and everything and I’m going to put Bear down there with him (Bog in his own bit sectioned off within same field) so I can make sure he always has company etc. Unfortunately for Bear this means he will need a muzzle which he’s on the verge of anyway but I’m afraid Bogs needs come first with this one and I need Bear to be useful.
We will reassess in 6 weeks with a scan. So unfortunately for Bear he’s going to be working his fat little belly off which will do him no harm!! He also got checked by the vet and is sound as a whistle after flexions, on hard etc. So that’s good and will crack on with him.
Couple of Bear photos, have cut my friend (Boggle now Bears sharers) head off, am walking with her on foot and we are going to alternate! Not a bad thing for a baby anyway. He’s being grand. And my vet loves him so...
Consequently he was marginally more lame this eve for vet than 2 weeks ago, though vet said actually he wasn’t too disappointed with that given what he’d done that morning. So, he’s going out for 6 weeks in small paddock then reassess. Right down the bottom end of the fields away from everyone and everything and I’m going to put Bear down there with him (Bog in his own bit sectioned off within same field) so I can make sure he always has company etc. Unfortunately for Bear this means he will need a muzzle which he’s on the verge of anyway but I’m afraid Bogs needs come first with this one and I need Bear to be useful.
We will reassess in 6 weeks with a scan. So unfortunately for Bear he’s going to be working his fat little belly off which will do him no harm!! He also got checked by the vet and is sound as a whistle after flexions, on hard etc. So that’s good and will crack on with him.
Couple of Bear photos, have cut my friend (Boggle now Bears sharers) head off, am walking with her on foot and we are going to alternate! Not a bad thing for a baby anyway. He’s being grand. And my vet loves him so...
splashgirl45
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trust boggle to have a hooley, glad he is not too bad , yes bear does look a little too well, still very handsome..
Ambers Echo
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I know what you mean. Toby is very sweet but he's just not Amber. I felt really guilty today because after riding I was skipping out and he was all over me like a rash. He's half horse half labrador. And I felt really irritated with him. Amber is so much more reserved and self contained which I just find a lot more appealing. Toby is needy and a bit pathetic! Then I feel terrible because most people actually like a friendly horse so to hold that against him seems a bit perverse. But Toby is lovley in his own way and I intend to put the work in, learn a lot and produce as decent a horse I can. Then have Amber back and Toby can go and be someone else's number one.
Michen
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Ha! I could have written this. Exactly the same. Well Boggle is needy and demanding but he’s not drippy or affectionate. Bear is exactly the same as Toby!
Hey ho, hopefully this time next year we will both be back on our no.1’s.
Michen
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He’s such an idiot, he looked so damn proud. When I got him he had his ears pricked and his chest all puffed out (is that even a thing horses can do.. he did it) and was basically just sticking two fingers up to me.
Fine Boggle, tbh we had always intended he’d be back in the field at the end of this two weeks whatever the verdict, we just wanted to know if he would come sound from the new “thing” if we KNEW he had only walked/rested! It will remain a mystery...
SatansLittleHelper
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Bad boy Boggle...!!! ?? Glad he's OK considering though. Bear looks to be a really sweet little chap, maybe you will grow fonder of him as you do more with him x
Michen
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Yeah! I am fond of him. You can’t not be fond of him because he’s just such a goofy loveable thing! He’s just doesn’t set me alight ? which was kinda the point with a project to sell
If Boggle and him eventually get properly turned out together and it works though I’ll have to keep him because that would directly impact boggles happiness and.. well.. Boggle deserves a pet Bear
ycbm
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Michen
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Best bloody site ever frankly. Bog is delighted, Bear can’t believe his luck. My vet assures me long stemmy grass is better than what he’s on as long as the intake is reduced as they can stuff more in, so Bear will have to have a muzzle... but it’s making me cringe a bit seeing him in so much grass! Field will be topped at some point. and I may strip graze Bear if the muzzle doesn’t keep his weight at bay.
Just great to see them out and sort of “together”. Really hope one day they can be loose in the same field!
Just great to see them out and sort of “together”. Really hope one day they can be loose in the same field!
AmyMay
Situation normal
Can you do a track system?
Ambers Echo
Still wittering on
They look like they are enjoying that!
Michen
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Not really, the field is massive and I need to make sure bear stays relatively close to Bog (who will get upset if he feels “alone”).
More likely I’ll just put Bear on Boggles “patch” as he grazes it down and rotate that way. Plus they are in during day for 12 hours so should be manageable with muzzle. Will just have to keep an eye but vet seemed ok with the plan.
alexomahony
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That field is a thing of dreams isn't it! (horsey ones anyway!) I imagine Bear spending time walking through that will help with weight loss too as it will use more energy!
They look lovely out together <3
They look lovely out together <3
Tarragon
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I didn't think that muzzles work well on long grass. It just bends! Just a thought.
Michen
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He seems to be managing fine!
Michen
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So er may have sort of cried in front of my vet.
I probed a bit more about Boggles new thing. Basically his adhesion/scar tissue ripping theory is just that, we can’t actually tell what’s happened and it’s actually quite far away from initial injury but just seems too coincidental. I asked him what his recommendation would be if we had found that initially and he said without a doubt an op to clean it up and tidy it. He still thinks thats likely to be the best or even only course of action if we don’t see any signs of healing on scan in two weeks. (4 weeks post injury).
Well I lost it after that tbh, I can’t put Bog under a GA the thought sends me into an absolute panic having lost a horse in anaesthetic recovery. I also don’t really have any insurance money left which isn’t an issue if I genuinely thought it would be right for the horse to have an op, I’d pay for it, but I just don’t think I can do it.
Anyway, it was left with me making that fairly clear which my vet respected, I’d need some seriously concrete evidence that this has next to no chance of healing properly on its own to even consider it. And even then I think I would rather he retired to a field for the rest of his days than risk his life with an op.
I can’t remember the last time I felt so genuinely panicked, even thinking about to just makes me sick to my stomach.
Please keep your fingers crossed that there will be some sign of healing and recovery on scan in a few weeks
I probed a bit more about Boggles new thing. Basically his adhesion/scar tissue ripping theory is just that, we can’t actually tell what’s happened and it’s actually quite far away from initial injury but just seems too coincidental. I asked him what his recommendation would be if we had found that initially and he said without a doubt an op to clean it up and tidy it. He still thinks thats likely to be the best or even only course of action if we don’t see any signs of healing on scan in two weeks. (4 weeks post injury).
Well I lost it after that tbh, I can’t put Bog under a GA the thought sends me into an absolute panic having lost a horse in anaesthetic recovery. I also don’t really have any insurance money left which isn’t an issue if I genuinely thought it would be right for the horse to have an op, I’d pay for it, but I just don’t think I can do it.
Anyway, it was left with me making that fairly clear which my vet respected, I’d need some seriously concrete evidence that this has next to no chance of healing properly on its own to even consider it. And even then I think I would rather he retired to a field for the rest of his days than risk his life with an op.
I can’t remember the last time I felt so genuinely panicked, even thinking about to just makes me sick to my stomach.
Please keep your fingers crossed that there will be some sign of healing and recovery on scan in a few weeks
HashRouge
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Oh M that is such rough news
I have got everything crossed for you, you and Boggle really deserve some good luck xxx
I have got everything crossed for you, you and Boggle really deserve some good luck xxx
Michen
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Oh M that is such rough news
I have got everything crossed for you, you and Boggle really deserve some good luck xxx
Thank you xx I can’t believe it, my vet doesn’t really give stuff away until we are “there” aka need to make a decision. And I guess I didn’t really ask that many questions so I was quite floored by the answers.
Roxylola
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Oh that's awful I'm so sorry, you really deserve some better news soon
palo1
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So er may have sort of cried in front of my vet.
I probed a bit more about Boggles new thing. Basically his adhesion/scar tissue ripping theory is just that, we can’t actually tell what’s happened and it’s actually quite far away from initial injury but just seems too coincidental. I asked him what his recommendation would be if we had found that initially and he said without a doubt an op to clean it up and tidy it. He still thinks thats likely to be the best or even only course of action if we don’t see any signs of healing on scan in two weeks. (4 weeks post injury).
Well I lost it after that tbh, I can’t put Bog under a GA the thought sends me into an absolute panic having lost a horse in anaesthetic recovery. I also don’t really have any insurance money left which isn’t an issue if I genuinely thought it would be right for the horse to have an op, I’d pay for it, but I just don’t think I can do it.
Anyway, it was left with me making that fairly clear which my vet respected, I’d need some seriously concrete evidence that this has next to no chance of healing properly on its own to even consider it. And even then I think I would rather he retired to a field for the rest of his days than risk his life with an op.
I can’t remember the last time I felt so genuinely panicked, even thinking about to just makes me sick to my stomach.
Please keep your fingers crossed that there will be some sign of healing and recovery on scan in a few weeks
This is such awful bad luck Michen
The injury sounds unusual to start with so the extras are massively frustrating. I would try to hope, in your situation that time will provide some further healing and that with enough time Bog can come out sound enough for you to enjoy riding again, if not competing. As for the GA I understand your sense of terror tbh but you need to be guided by your vet as you find out more. Not easy for you at all and sorry to hear this. Everything crossed that good healing takes place and provides a direction for you to go in. Wheels
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I really hope there is improvement on your next scan.
It's really awful going through things like this
It's really awful going through things like this
Michen
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This is such awful bad luck Michen
I agree. What I need to know from vet is if we try conservative treatment aka time and it doesn’t fix it, would it then be too late to operate on if that makes sense. Or does it need to be done in the acute phase.
I can’t imagine that there’s no hope for it without something so drastic, I just hope it’s not a decision I have to make now and we can give it a year or so to see.