horse communicators and reason out the window

Goldenstar said:
She did not perscribe anything she suggested that someone feed dried plants to their horse not the same thing if the person was fool enough to feed them that's their choice .
I was not desperate for a solution more curious because the man who persuaded me to try was no ones idea of a desparate fool .
It is still one of the most spooky strange experiances I have ever had.
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As a complete sceptic I arranged for a 'reading' from someone who was training to communicate. I had a very similar experience to yours Goldenstar, with phrases that no-one who didn't know my family and my horses could possibly have used about the horses.
 
Mr Nick said:
how is it that normally sane and rational people let their reason go out of the window when it comes to horse communicators?

Now Ive heard about a lot of rubbish spouted by these people but one has told someone I know (and have a lot of respect for) that their horse is homophobic. REally. And I think she may be buying it.:eek:
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TBF, that has given a few people a real laugh and so perhaps the 50 quid was well spent.:D

How much is a ticket to one of the top comedians?
 
YorksG said:
As a complete sceptic I arranged for a 'reading' from someone who was training to communicate. I had a very similar experience to yours Goldenstar, with phrases that no-one who didn't know my family and my horses could possibly have used about the horses.
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It was a disturbing experiance , I am glad to know I am not the only one.
 
YorksG said:
If the communications were damaging their horses, I could see the need for people to voice their concerns. How others spend their money in ways which are none invasive is none of anyone elses business. If they were spending their money on training methods which they didn't understand, spending a fortune on over molassed rubbish feeds etc, then I could see the point of making comment, although hopefully not of the 'she's talking out of her backside' type, which isn't humerous, just obnoxious and childish, but how others spend their money in a way which causes no harm, is none of anyone elses business.
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well that's a view but personally I do think that someone attributing homohphobia to a bloody horse is worthy of comment. And actually I can also think of potential harm this could cause if accepted and shared
 
Booboos said:
He wasn't embarrassing someone because he disagreed with them, he was calling them out for being a fraud.
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He was certainly risking embarrassing the person who had invited the communicator onto the yard. What does this extremely rude man do if a farrier whose work he dislikes comes onto the yard? Or if someone delivers feed that he wouldn't give to his horse? Or drives a car that he doesn't consider to be top notch onto the yard?

I can understand his daughter defending his behaviour, she knows no better but why a perfect stranger should do so is completely beyond me! And why any-one thinks it is acceptable to comment on how someone else spends their money is a complete mystery.

Yet another reason why I am thankful that I am not on a livery yard.
 
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Pearlsasinger said:
He was certainly risking embarrassing the person who had invited the communicator onto the yard. What does this extremely rude man do if a farrier whose work he dislikes comes onto the yard? Or if someone delivers feed that he wouldn't give to his horse? Or drives a car that he doesn't consider to be top notch onto the yard?

I can understand his daughter defending his behaviour, she knows no better but why a perfect stranger should do so is completely beyond me!

Yet another reason why I am thankful that I am not on a livery yard.
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Oh lighten up please, he is not extremely rude, perhaps not done in the best way but did say sorry after:rolleyes: "she knows no better" I find that rude !

Yawn next thing please :D

p.s we keep ours at home now this was 10+ years ago, he doesnt get involved with the horses, but if someone did something he didnt agree with he would speak out due to freedom of speech.
 
Harm to the horse? Homophobia is not the exclusive perogative of animal communicators, it is unnacceptable whoever is saying it. Would the comments have been the same if a vet, farrier, equine dentist had made homophobic comments?
 
I am a non believer too, and as yet have never ever seen anything to convince me its not a load of old jibberish, and no different to what Derren Brown does. However, I have seen it have what i believe to be placebo effect. a nervous friend had a 'communicator' out when she had lost all confidence with pony, and was generally nervous on horseback (pony was fine I rode him a lot as did others, just needed to be ridden rather then sat on and allowed to do what he wanted... Which is what friend did) the communicator 'had a word' with the pony, and gave the owner a 'check list' of things to do before getting on (which stirrup leather to pull down 1st, stroke his neck x number of times or some such other rubbish) so owner with renewed confidence after paying £50 to the communicator, follows the 'list' gets on, rides pony with confidence - low and behold he was well behaved... It worked, but not because the pony had communicated with someone, but because the owners confidence grew and she did what everyone else did on that pony and just ride him 'properly'...

Didn't last long and pony subsequently sold, but that's my view anyway!
 
teddy bear said:
Oh lighten up please, he is not extremely rude, perhaps not done in the best way but did say sorry after:rolleyes: "she knows no better" I find that rude !

Yawn next thing please :D

p.s we keep ours at home now this was 10+ years ago, he doesn't get involved with the horses, but if someone did something he didn't agree with he would speak out due to freedom of speech.
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If he saw an obese man eating a pie in the street would he also speak out due to freedom of speech ?


Freedom of speech is a privilege that comes with responsibility. Your father's remarks were just rude designed to belittle the livery.
 
I am sceptical, & tbh think probably 99% are charlatans. But, I do think some people have a sixth sense & can pick up on things they don't have any reason to know. But, although no less psychic, I do think even with those who aren't charlatans, & have a genuine gift, they are reading the owner, not the horse. Provided the horses more important needs are met, then whilst I don't like the idea of the desperate getting false hope, or the gullible being conned by a fake, its otherwise nobody else's business.
As for tessybears dads comment, I've witnessed some awful instructors & so called 'professionals' before, who unlike a fake communicator are actively doing harm. It doesn't mean I have a right to shout 'you are speaking out of your ass' if they are with a client.
 
horserider said:
If he saw an obese man eating a pie in the street would he also speak out due to freedom of speech ?


Freedom of speech is a privilege that comes with responsibility. Your father's remarks were just rude designed to belittle the livery.
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Livery like i said afterwards agreed, she wasn't offended and had been a family friend for years like a sister to my mum, so in no way was that his aim.

Like i said yawn lets leave it at that, wouldn't have put it up if a drama was going to be made out of it as there certainly wasn't one made at the time...

off to bed night all :D
 
YorksG said:
Harm to the horse? Homophobia is not the exclusive perogative of animal communicators, it is unnacceptable whoever is saying it. Would the comments have been the same if a vet, farrier, equine dentist had made homophobic comments?
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Not quite understanding this.:confused:
Had the vet, farrier, equine dentist made homophobic comments then yes they should be pulled up on them.

But what "comments" had the horse made to label them as homophobic?
 
FionaM12 said:
You can't just throw that out without explaining further! :eek: Tell me more! :D


Also, by the by, how did Tessy bear change into Teddy bear in one of Horseride's quotes? :confused:
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Magic :eek:

I have been telling myself to go to bed for the past 15 minutes .. stupid HHO:mad::D
 
Re Tessy bear's Dad: Okay, it doesn't sound like something I would do, but it's a funny story of something which happened between friends who all seemed to have enjoyed the joke. Hardly worth dissecting and being outraged by, surely? :rolleyes:
 
FionaM12 said:
Re Tessy bear's Dad: Okay, it doesn't sound like something I would do, but it's a funny story of something which happened between friends who all seemed to have enjoyed the joke. Hardly worth dissecting and being outraged by, surely? :rolleyes:
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I agree not fantastic but please you simply cannot call a man horrible from one tale, he is normally very well behaved and will do anything for a person in need, no more fighting please ... Me no like fighting
 
Teddybears dad called out jokingly against something he disagreed with. You are all calling out unjokingly against something you disagree with.

Whilst I wouldn't say what her dad did, I'd certainly be thinking it! *wonders off to imagine a world where horses are free from homophobia*
 
YorksG said:
Harm to the horse? Homophobia is not the exclusive perogative of animal communicators, it is unnacceptable whoever is saying it. Would the comments have been the same if a vet, farrier, equine dentist had made homophobic comments?
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:confused:

I don't think the AC made homophobic remarks, they just said the horse was homophobic. :D
 
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