horse communicators and reason out the window

[tessybear]

Teddybears dad called out jokingly against something he disagreed with. You are all calling out unjokingly against something you disagree with.

Whilst I wouldn't say what her dad did, I'd certainly be thinking it! *wonders off to imagine a world where horses are free from homophobia*

It's catching teddy perhaps the ghost of TFC ?... hmm i really need to go to bed...

 

[FionaM12]

It's catching teddy perhaps the ghost of TFC ?... hmm i really need to go to bed...

'night Ted.

 

[Elsiecat]

I wrote tessybear
Maybe my phone is haunted..

 

[Moomin1]

You mean you didn't do it?


Cue Twilight Zone music......





(apologies to those too young to remember TZ)

Oh please don't mention the Twilight Zone music!

My OH made me (and his two young kids) go on the Tower of Terror in Disneyland Paris, saying it 'was just a little tickle in the tummy, like a froghopper at a fair'.....Half an hour later, two screaming crying kids and one extremely angry and faint girlfriend (I have never felt so scared on a ride in all my life!) later, he was in the bad books! They play that music at the beginning of the ride and it makes my blood run cold now!

 

[tessybear]

'night Ted.

Maybe i am called Teddy and you all don't know na night

I wrote tessybear
Maybe my phone is haunted..

 

[FionaM12]

I wrote tessybear
Maybe my phone is haunted..

You need to call a telephone communicator who will have a word with it and see if it's unhappy because it wants to be a fireman.

 

[tessybear]

Oh please don't mention the Twilight Zone music!

My OH made me (and his two young kids) go on the Tower of Terror in Disneyland Paris, saying it 'was just a little tickle in the tummy, like a froghopper at a fair'.....Half an hour later, two screaming crying kids and one extremely angry and faint girlfriend (I have never felt so scared on a ride in all my life!) later, he was in the bad books! They play that music at the beginning of the ride and it makes my blood run cold now!

tootles off to youtube this twilight zone im curious now

 

[mandwhy]

I can kind of imagine that going to see a horse and it guiding you to an unknown injury is plausible, but not through the phone or looking at a picture. I do believe some people and most animals have abilities/senses most of us can't fathom though, even if it is just being really good at reading emotions.

The homophobic horse is pretty funny!

He obviously spends a lot of time thinking about morality within human society, which is odd, since he's a horse. Unless he specifically meant gay horses?

 

[FionaM12]

tootles off to youtube this twilight zone im curious now

1950s spooky series, sort of the X Files of its day. Each week another story of supernatural happenings. Famous for the music and the intro "you are about to enter the twilight zone" Do de do de..... (sorry Moomin)


Now off to bed, Ted.

 

[Goldenstar]

I can kind of imagine that going to see a horse and it guiding you to an unknown injury is plausible, but not through the phone or looking at a picture. I do believe some people and most animals have abilities/senses most of us can't fathom though, even if it is just being really good at reading emotions.

The homophobic horse is pretty funny!

He obviously spends a lot of time thinking about morality within human society, which is odd, since he's a horse. Unless he specifically meant gay horses?

Gay horses I am seeing Katie price rugs red and black stables .
He's obviously an interesting horse may be going to be a physiologist in his next life.

 

[tessybear]

1950s spooky series, sort of the X Files of its day. Each week another story of supernatural happenings. Famous for the music and the intro "you are about to enter the twilight zone" Do de do de..... (sorry Moomin)


Now off to bed, Ted.

ooo cover your ears Moomin

yes Ma'am up at 6am

 

[FionaM12]

The homophobic horse is pretty funny!

He obviously spends a lot of time thinking about morality within human society, which is odd, since he's a horse. Unless he specifically meant gay horses?

My boyfriend used to have a racist doberman. It was really embarrassing, it was fine with everyone, until it saw a black person then it would start barking and growling at them.

 

[Littlelegs]

That's hilarious fiona. My friends dog is anti-disability. He's fine with learning difficulties or mobility issues, but conditions where the person has different body language or vocals he is a bit off with, rather than his people loving self.

 

[FionaM12]

That's hilarious fiona. My friends dog is anti-disability. He's fine with learning difficulties or mobility issues, but conditions where the person has different body language or vocals he is a bit off with, rather than his people loving self.

Yes, I've known dogs like that. My own dog doesn't like anyone he thinks is walking funny. . I work with disabled people and sometimes colleague's dogs visit work but I'd never let mine as he'd probably disgrace me.

However, I have never heard of an animal who responded in such a way to someone because they were gay. Or in fact even showing they had the slightest concept of human sexual politics.

 

[eatmyshorts]

I am sceptical, & tbh think probably 99% are charlatans. But, I do think some people have a sixth sense & can pick up on things they don't have any reason to know. But, although no less psychic, I do think even with those who aren't charlatans, & have a genuine gift, they are reading the owner, not the horse.

This. There are cowboys and fakes in all walks of life. My opinion is also that (whether they know it or not) normally the AC is reading the owner. It's a win win situation e.g. owner suspects the horse has been abused in the past, AC picks up on this and says the horse has told them it has been abused, owner is proved right, AC also has got it right.

As in any reading, there may well be truth in it but it's not a science and it should always be taken with a pinch of salt. It becomes dangerous when it overshadows professionals advise ie. Vets or farrier. I remember hearing of an AC who was saying the horses were telling her their shoes were too small and hurting their feet - owners starting giving their farriers a hard time and asking for bigger shoes. Apparently the Council of Farriery had to step in and ask her to stop saying such things!

 

[MerrySherryRider]

-offers chocolate as peace treaty-

Can we let it lie, i dont want to go to bed on a bad note sorry if i upset with my reactions .

Hmm, chocolate...

Hey, no problem. I was probably over sensitive today as a livery was absolutely distraught and left after some others had made fun of her.
Yuk, sometimes livery yards are the pits.

I'm sure your dad is lovely really and his remarks were taken in a completely different way.

Sleep well Teddy, erm, tessy and don't have any strange dreams...

 

[NaeNae87]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and their own beliefs.

I don't see how someone else chooses to spend their money is anyone elses business. Especially if the horses that are having the session are well looked after. If the owner was choosing to spend money on a communicator rather than on food, bedding, farrier, vets etc.. that would be a different story.

I am skeptical, but I have witnessed some things that have come out that I know for a fact and am 100% positive that only my horses and I have known about.

I have a problem when people try and force their beliefs on others. Those who believe, going around and forcing stuff down others throats and vice versa. If you don't believe and go around loudly proclaiming that things you don't necessarily understand are a load of (insert your choice of word her), you are just as bad as the other group.

 

[Beausmate]

You can't just throw that out without explaining further! Tell me more!

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=589590&highlight=fireman

There you go.

And for those who don't know about The Twilight Zone, here's the original intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

 

[luckyoldme]

Like it or not there are things we can t explain.
I have had a couple of experiences i just can t explain despite being a sceptic.
My experiences were not with dead people but with two very close relatives. My brother lives in australia. when he first left he didn t come home for many many years. I used to wonder if i would still recognise him if he passed me in the street. One night sat in a truck waiting to be unloaded on night shift i was drifting off. Suddenly i saw his face clear as anything, and that night i kept thinking of him all night. The next day my mum had a phone call to say he had gone to hopital with a virus. When I spoke to him he said "I thought i was going to die"
I also felt my dads pains at times during his last few weeks. he was in an induced coma but I told my sister in law that they had woken him because i could feel the pain in my back...this matched with the time they had done so.
I can t explain any of these things and its certainly not something i could make a living out of or would rely on...there have been many more over the years.
In my dads case I felt his pain before he died but have never every (dissapoiningly) felt his prescence since he died..so i feel a bit cheated!
Not sure why i told these stories here but i have now!

 

[Booboos]

People may be free to spend their money any way they want, but that doesn't mean that other people are free to charge for whatever they want - some things are fraud and rightly regulated (and ridiculed).

 

[mynutmeg]

Neigh-Nor Neigh-Nor !!!!! Weeeeeee.



(I have had far to much caffeine!!)

 

[Rebels]

I met a guy called Lightning Fingers owing to having been struck by lightning 3 times (yeah, I know, just nod and smile!!) This gave him supernatural powers and the ability to heal and communicate with animals. General appearance was unkempt druid. However for £75 he would come and heal your horse or you. He would perform some odd dance type manouvere next to the horse then draw the bad energy out. This was without touching the horse. Meanwhile the rest of the yard would watch with bemused expectation (sparks, lightning, solar eclipse, that kind of thing) until he drew so much bad energy out he had to have a sit down. Funnily enough that long never dumped the kid again after several months of allowing her to stay on for roughly 5 mins at a time. I reckon it was so scared the weird man would come back and get it that it decided to behave!

 

[tessybear]

Thank you for that rebels - it's 8am and I'm howling again

 

[Luci07]

I do think there are some genuine people who can do this but unfortunately, a huge number of charlatans. Ditto with psychics who effectively play on peoples unhappiness to keep hooking them in. In fact, a "proper" spiritualist is not supposed to make money out of their gift.

I have had personal unexplained experiences so I do truly believe there is more out there than we can understand but detest anyone seeking to manipulate another who is needing help.

 

[Landcruiser]

I studied science at Uni, and am as sceptical and athiest as they come. BUT.
A friend worked with a woman who was an animal communicator IN HER SPARE TIME. She didn't charge for it, just did it as a sort of hobby. She'd never done a horse, so I had her out to do my two, just to see what happened, really.

She clearly hadn't been around horses before, and didn't know the proper names for stuff. My one boy, Tuga, who I'd only had for a month or so by then apparently told her, amongst lots of other stuff, that he missed the cat, and he missed his purple food thing on the wall. Now, I'd been to pick him up myself, and had mentioned to no other living soul that he had a Lickit tongue twirler on his stable wall...purple...and that there was a little nest in the corner where THE CAT SLEPT. I'd even forgotten these things until then. She also said he'd been starved - he's incredibly greedy and very likely he was starved in his previous life as he's a Uraguy criollo who came over on the meat boat.

She then tried my other boy, Pat. She said "He's a man" as in he's very masculine. He's since been tested for being a rig, and his stable habits could only be those of a man (pees on the concrete, seems to enjoy it splashing up his legs), but at the time he was just standing in the field, doing nothing. She tried and tried but couldn't get anything out of him. He just looked at her for a bit, and walked off - utterly typical of him, particularly back then. He has to do things on his terms, and if he says "Nah" that's the end of it unless you want a big fight. Very suspicious, and with a lot of issues (another criollo).

She wrote me about 3 sides of A4 with lots of other stuff, and on a second visit a few months later, she did get some stuff from Pat too. Most of the stuff was at least plausible, but some of it, like the cat and the lick, was mind boggling. So I just don't know any more...

 

[Orls]

I think some animal communicators are complete frauds and should not be allowed to charge for their service however .... One I knew was amazing. I met her while working abroad. We had a horse on the yard with several behavioural problems and were really tearing our hair out regarding the cause. It had had tests and seen the vet numerous times, also the chiropractor, saddler, dentist, NH specialist etc. Our final attempt to get to the root of the problem was calling this communicator to come out and have a word with him. She chatted with him for about 20 minutes and said he had a virus and because of this was generally feeling very down in the dumps and acting up. Turns out this virus hadn't been tested for, when the vet came out to do the test it was positive ... Horse received treatment and rest and his whole manner, attitude and behaviour improved hugely.

She was an amazing person to meet, very talented and well known in the area for helping so many horses. She never came up with any crap about past lives unlike anything one I met .... A crazy livery used to have a different communicator talk with her horse regularly. She claimed the horse had been a soldier in a past life and was angry about being killed in a war which he didn't agree with in the first place Apparently this is why said horse would bite everyone who handled it and pinned the sharer against the wall of his stall ....

 

[Booboos]

I studied science at Uni, and am as sceptical and athiest as they come. BUT.
A friend worked with a woman who was an animal communicator IN HER SPARE TIME. She didn't charge for it, just did it as a sort of hobby. She'd never done a horse, so I had her out to do my two, just to see what happened, really.

She clearly hadn't been around horses before, and didn't know the proper names for stuff. My one boy, Tuga, who I'd only had for a month or so by then apparently told her, amongst lots of other stuff, that he missed the cat, and he missed his purple food thing on the wall. Now, I'd been to pick him up myself, and had mentioned to no other living soul that he had a Lickit tongue twirler on his stable wall...purple...and that there was a little nest in the corner where THE CAT SLEPT. I'd even forgotten these things until then. She also said he'd been starved - he's incredibly greedy and very likely he was starved in his previous life as he's a Uraguy criollo who came over on the meat boat.

She then tried my other boy, Pat. She said "He's a man" as in he's very masculine. He's since been tested for being a rig, and his stable habits could only be those of a man (pees on the concrete, seems to enjoy it splashing up his legs), but at the time he was just standing in the field, doing nothing. She tried and tried but couldn't get anything out of him. He just looked at her for a bit, and walked off - utterly typical of him, particularly back then. He has to do things on his terms, and if he says "Nah" that's the end of it unless you want a big fight. Very suspicious, and with a lot of issues (another criollo).

She wrote me about 3 sides of A4 with lots of other stuff, and on a second visit a few months later, she did get some stuff from Pat too. Most of the stuff was at least plausible, but some of it, like the cat and the lick, was mind boggling. So I just don't know any more...

Horses cannot see the colour purple so you either have an extraordinary animal or a fibbing communicator.

 

[Hippona]

Horses see all colours...just more 'washed out' than we see them.

The 'colours' that stand out most to a horse are black and white....in stark contrast to the washed out colours.

Thats why they spook at white carrier bags, black bin liners etrc.....

 

[mle22]

I once had a horse communicate with me - well my daughter's pony to be precise. This is many yeras ago now, we went to a show and as we were getting him tacked up I 'heard' him tell me exactly what he was going to do, ie dump my daughter during the jumping and take off through the gate. Daughter went in to jump, pony stopped dead after a fence and put his head down so that daughter went sailing over onto the ground, pony left ring, went straight to the gate out of the field where the show was being held and took off down the road. I've never been able to explain it to myself but that is exactly what happened. I heard his plan at least half an hour before he carried it out!

 

[Booboos]

Horses see all colours...just more 'washed out' than we see them.

The 'colours' that stand out most to a horse are black and white....in stark contrast to the washed out colours.

Thats why they spook at white carrier bags, black bin liners etrc.....

Sorry, science says 'no'. Horses are dichromats and seem to perceive colour like human dichromats, i.e. they have trouble differentiating reds from greens, lime greens from orange and blues from purple.

They perceive neutral colours like trichromats which is why black and white objects stand out for horses.