horse homeopathy? :)

JFTD said:
Some of the placebo studies are fascinating - different coloured pills are more effective against different conditions, two pills are better than one, and injection works better than a pill - even though they're all just sugar :D
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Slightly off tangent...but the authority studies are fascinating as well. Being male, wearing a white coat and carrying a clip board will get you almost universal compliance with all sorts of crap!
 
Booboos said:
Slightly off tangent...but the authority studies are fascinating as well. Being male, wearing a white coat and carrying a clip board will get you almost universal compliance with all sorts of crap!
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tangents are fine when they're this interesting - exactly. Sexism is alive and well in our subconscious minds :eek: :D
 
I can't help thinking that if the power of placebo was better known by people, the whole 'homeopathy works' thing might be a little less common. Maybe that's wishful thinking though.

I also want 'the plural of anecdotes is not data' on a t shirt and I can think of a whole lab full of scientists who would also want one. Someone should get them printed up!

And for those who think this thread is vitriolic, come to my work place on a homeopathy bashing day. You'll soon see the true meaning of the word!
 
Booboos said:
Slightly off tangent...but the authority studies are fascinating as well. Being male, wearing a white coat and carrying a clip board will get you almost universal compliance with all sorts of crap!
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Oo, so if I go to Thorntons in my lab coat and tell them to give me all the chocolate they will?

Who knew my manky old coats were so powerful!
 
jesstickle said:
Oo, so if I go to Thorntons in my lab coat and tell them to give me all the chocolate they will?

Who knew my manky old coats were so powerful!
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If I wore my lab coat to Thorntons they'd have to dispose of all the chocolate as it's a health hazard :eek:
 
JFTD said:
If I wore my lab coat to Thorntons they'd have to dispose of all the chocolate as it's a health hazard :eek:
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Well, I wasn't planning on wearing my cat 2 coat! I'm not that norty! My normal lab coat would be basically ok. Bit of ethidium bromide but I'm not even convinced it's that dangerous so certainly wouldn't stop me wearing it to the shops :D
 
Booboos said:
Slightly off tangent...but the authority studies are fascinating as well. Being male, wearing a white coat and carrying a clip board will get you almost universal compliance with all sorts of crap!
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Yup, at least two studies have actually shown that you can get people off the street to electrocute a total stranger to death using the power of authority to make them turn the dial.

Why else do parents of a child dying of meningitis and who know that it has every symptom of the disease take it home to die because a doctor in a white coat tells them that it just has a virus? I call it "expert syndrome", it's the basis of all criminal con artistry too. I had a publisher accept a synopsis of a book about it once, but I can't be bothered to do all the research to write it.
 
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jesstickle said:
Well, I wasn't planning on wearing my cat 2 coat! I'm not that norty! My normal lab coat would be basically ok. Bit of ethidium bromide but I'm not even convinced it's that dangerous so certainly wouldn't stop me wearing it to the shops :D
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I'm not convinced by all the EtBr scaremongering either :p I only have a cat 2 lab :o It's covered in african mycoplasma as well as my bacteria so it's probably a terrorism risk :D
 
JFTD said:
I'm not convinced by all the EtBr scaremongering either :p I only have a cat 2 lab :o It's covered in african mycoplasma as well as my bacteria so it's probably a terrorism risk :D
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Oo, we have a mycoplasma project on at the moment. I'd only be covered in flu and MRSA So nothing actually that bad which is very disappointing :(

There was some debate over whether to try and get licensed for HIV but it was way, way too much hassle! Unsurprisingly!
 
cptrayes said:
Yup, at least two studies have actually shown that you can get people off the street to electrocute a total stranger to death using the power of authority to make them turn the dial.

Why else do parents of a child dying of meningitis and who know that it has every symptom of the disease take it home to die because a doctor in a white coat tells them that it just has a virus? I call it "expert syndrome", it's the basis of all criminal con artistry too. I had a publisher accept a synopsis of a book about it once, but I can't be bothered to do all the research to write it.
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Hmm, I feel an evil plot coming on! Nah, not really. I'm a benevolent white coat wearer really. All I want is some free chocolate :D

Fortunately for my OH when he had meningitis the doctors said he had meningitis and he went to the hospital and here he still is but my own mother suffers from 'expert syndrome'. Especially with the vet. The vet is some kind of god to her. Very odd!
 
jesstickle said:
Oo, we have a mycoplasma project on at the moment. I'd only be covered in flu and MRSA So nothing actually that bad which is very disappointing :(

There was some debate over whether to try and get licensed for HIV but it was way, way too much hassle! Unsurprisingly!
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hehe, I have MRSA for sure on mine, some lab strains of E.coli obviously and R. equi. Probably also some mycobacterial species too. Nothing terribly exciting really.

Yea, I bet HIV would be a hassle. My lab buddy's mycoplasma has caused no end of logistical problems with the terrorism alert thingy - not least that I can no longer get at my own -80 stocks :mad: Grrrrr
 
So here are a couple more:

- you can try this out: if a (fair) coin has come up heads 9 times in a row, what is it likely to come up next time? Most people will say 'tails' because it is now overdue (in fact it has the same 50:50 chance every time it is tossed).

- if you tell someone that they have a 50% chance of doing well from the medical procedure they are more likely to consent than if you say they have a 50% chance of doing badly!
 
Oh, oh one more! If you ask people to predict which adverse medical event would have the worst effect on their lives disability comes up at the top of most people's lists. If you ask people with the actual medical problem to rate their disutility, disability comes up towards the bottom of the list with auditory hallucinations at the top.
 
Just to mention that there is a new book on Homeopathy for horses

http://www.britishhorse.com/products/homeopathy-for-my-horse-2.html

Homeopathy For My Horse by Claudia Naujoks

Ref: CAD79259

Holistic Help For The Most Common Ailments and Diseases.
Comprehensive yet easy to follow guide. How to select the correct remedy and potency, first aid for numerous conditions concerning limbs, digestion, respiratory, skin, behaviourasl and much more.

Price: £12.95
 
Hi Claudia :D I'll be sure to read it. Next time my horse has a leg falling off, I want to be sure I'm definitely using the correct dilution of, err, what's it called again? No vomiting?
 
£12.99 for a book to tell me to give my horses plenty of water :eek:

Honestly :rolleyes:

(pleased to see this thread make a comeback tonight... I'm bored:p)
 
Me too JFTD. Haven't posted till this evening, but it's had me chortling over last couple of days. I just despair of the fact that the BHS book shop is happy to stock stuff like this...
 
Some days, the BHS make me want to cry... No wonder horse sense is so rare when even the BHS are doolally...
 
Are they still plugging Parelli as well? Maybe selling this kind of, erm, alternative reading material is part of their new happy-clappy vibe? I can just see this kind of thing being examined as part of the Stages:

Examiner: "So, this lovely ponio is clearly slightly lame on the off fore, what course of action do you recommend?"

Student: "I'm sure it says on page 63 of the textbook that the best way to cure mild lameness is to bash ponio in the face three times with a lead rope clip and then follow up with a huge dose of sugar-water. If no sugar is available, any old homeopathic remedy will do."
 
Puddock said:
I rather think so Faracat. So extraordinarily helpful of her to post the order reference and the price, no?
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Yes, so kind. :D

I also wonder whether she actually read the thread or just googled 'horse homeopathy' and then joined HHO to post the very helpful information.

I'm ordering several copies right now. :rolleyes:
 
I see no-one watched my link on intelligent water then....

You can actually sing to it and it becomes a different kind of water! You don't even need a dilution of anything. Or sugar. Just water itself.

If you cut yourself, all you need to do is wash it with water. If you are dying of thirst, water can save your life.

It's all about water. Nothing else matters.
 
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