Horse is fitting after head injury- what are my chances?

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That sounds a bit more promising, so sad that it took umpteen phone calls and begging to get anywhere! I don't have anything to say other than good luck op, stay strong xx
 

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Update:
After chasing them all day, and getting absolutely fuming, they finally got my regular vet to call me.

She is happy to seek a second opinion from a specialist in Edinburgh (John keen??) and will be out to the horse at 6.30 tonight. She agrees we need to do something.

My horse WILL have pain relief tonight. If I have to register with all the practices in the area and get them out, I refuse to lose my horse because of some ar*seholes ego.

I shouldnt have to protect my horse from the vet, of all people

Hopefully my usual one will help. She sounded like she will.
very well done. at least she will be out of pain and hopefully you can relax knowing she is out of pain and that they are finally going to take you seriously and work with the specialist
 

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If we believed she had no realistic chance of a good quality of life then we'd be the first to call time and call it a day, but we do think she's still got a chance atm.
That's if she can be made comfortable, that is, and the vet should at least try. All we're asking is that they give her some help.
 

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I agree with this as well get another vet who knows about this kind of thing, a friend of mine years ago had a problem with one of her horses and was offered a drug not licensed in this country but her vet wanted to try it, she just signed a disclaimer form and the drug worked and he got better so that vet basically took a chance and saved his life.

My horse was treated with a drug that is only licenced for use in humans and dogs. I gave my agreement that it was on my own head if anything went wrong, and pointed out to the vet anyway that if the side effect was death, then it was no difference to having her PTS. She (sadly) outlived the vet.
 

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Just caught up from yesterday. OP/Mum, this mare is fortunate to have guys such as yourselves on her side.

Just sending my sincere good wishes to you, and hopefully there will be renewed good news next time I check back.

It sounds like the mare is a fighter, will surely will help her cause.
 

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Oh my word, this thread is an emotional rollarcoaster!

OP & Mum, very well done for sticking to your guns and fighter for her. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. She sounds like a fighter, I hope you get the help she deserves.
 
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Loch Leven Vets are a good 2-3, hours away from Aberdeen BTW. BUT I do know Hugh and if he thinks he has an interesting case that he can fix, make a fool of another Vet or write a paper on then he will come up so don't be put off by distance.

John Keen - he is a very, very good Vet. He is no nonsense, to the point and exceptionally good at his job. You couldn't be in better hands if he gets involved.
 
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Loch Leven Vets are a good 2-3, hours away from Aberdeen BTW. BUT I do know Hugh and if he thinks he has an interesting case that he can fix, make a fool of another Vet or write a paper on then he will come up so don't be put off by distance.

John Keen - he is a very, very good Vet. He is no nonsense, to the point and exceptionally good at his job. You couldn't be in better hands if he gets involved.

That's great to hear, thank you.
Apparently my usual vet (the lass who is coming out tonight) trained with him, and said she'll pretty much take any recommendation he gives her
 

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oh good news. sounds like you are getting somewhere. how is horsey? what is her name?

Sorry- her name is Rosa.

She's only 14 :(

This morning she was awful- she wants to eat, but she won't even consider it due to the pain she's in :( she was dull eyed and barely drinking.

She's dropped so much weight :(

On my way straight up after work now, vet is delayed but she should be here for 7.

I'm kind of dreading the state my poor lass is going to be in :(
 

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Just read some of the recent replies/ happenings. I'm so glad that someone is finally going to give her some pain relief, poor girl. Keeping everything crossed that she'll start to pick up again now. Hugs to you and your mum - what a awful time you're going through.
 

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Sorry- her name is Rosa.

She's only 14 :(

This morning she was awful- she wants to eat, but she won't even consider it due to the pain she's in :( she was dull eyed and barely drinking.

She's dropped so much weight :(

On my way straight up after work now, vet is delayed but she should be here for 7.

I'm kind of dreading the state my poor lass is going to be in :(

Ah poor Rosa. Losing weight is to be expected given the circumstances. If all goes well she will put it back on in time. I think it is very positive that she actually wants to eat. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Has she had any X-rays to check for fractures?
 

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Ah poor Rosa. Losing weight is to be expected given the circumstances. If all goes well she will put it back on in time. I think it is very positive that she actually wants to eat. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Has she had any X-rays to check for fractures?

This ^ I'm thinking of you all.
 

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Travel still isn't an option. She's no where near well enough, especially now. I won't put her through that.

We haven't Xrayed yet. Vets have had thorough examinations of her though, and all 3 have thought its going to be a micro fracture somewhere.

I'll cross the xray bridge once she's comfortable. ATM, I seriously need to get her comfortable
 

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I'm beginning to wonder if High Hope, Chloe and this thread, may not be collectively losing their way. I understand the nightmare of 'trying' (trust me!), and I only hope that when (if) an outside veterinary practice are involved, that a resolution can be found.

The fact remains that a horse is being 'kept going' and has been for FOUR days with little sign of improvement, and I only hope that she, Rosa, receives what she needs. Sometimes HH & Mum, we need to stand back and look from the outside;

A forum diagnosis, though probably of little use? Were the damage neurological, then opiates (morphine) would have masked that. Once the opiates are withdrawn then the horse has to stand on her own feet and at least pick up. It seems that she can't. My honest opinion is that there is a serious and deep and underlying problem, and simple pain killers will be to no effect. From all the posts on here, from HH and her Mum, my honest opinion is that the time may well be here to bring an end to Rosa's suffering.

Alec.

ETS. High Hope, I'm not judging you, I promise, and I do so understand that looking in from the outside isn't easy, but the above is in your's and your mare's best interest, I feel sure. a. xx
 
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I'm beginning to wonder if High Hope, Chloe and this thread, may not be collectively losing their way. I understand the nightmare of 'trying' (trust me!), and I only hope that when (if) an outside veterinary practice are involved, that a resolution can be found.

The fact remains that a horse is being 'kept going' and has been for FOUR days with little sign of improvement, and I only hope that she, Rosa, receives what she needs. Sometimes HH & Mum, we need to stand back and look from the outside;

A forum diagnosis, though probably of little use? Were the damage neurological, then opiates (morphine) would have masked that. Once the opiates are withdrawn then the horse has to stand on her own feet and at least pick up. It seems that she can't. My honest opinion is that there is a serious and deep and underlying problem, and simple pain killers will be to no effect. From all the posts on here, from HH and her Mum, my honest opinion is that the time may well be here to bring an end to Rosa's suffering.

Alec.

ETS. High Hope, I'm not judging you, I promise, and I do so understand that looking in from the outside isn't easy, but the above is in your's and your mare's best interest, I feel sure. a. xx

Unfortunately for your horse HH I am of the same opinion. At this stage I would get John Keen involved if he will come up and x ray the horse immediately. You need an xray in the very least. Comfortable or not all she needs to do is keep her head still for 15 seconds for a click of a button. If this is not an option then I would seriously think of saying the goodbyes.
 

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Hi Hope and Chloe may be clutching at straws, but having seemingly received little support from their vets who can blame them? Sometimes stumbling around in the dark is the best we can do for want of professional guidance.
 

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While I applaud you for standing by your horse, I have to agree that it does sound that something is very wrong. Can your vet bring portable xray machine?
I think if it were my horse I would seriously be considering if it's fair on the horse to carry on much longer.
 

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Op I hope the vets visit is a positive one.

I know she probably looks nothing like herself at the moment, but (if you haven't seen it) this is a link to a charity where they really do bring horses back from the brink. Some of th before pictures have to be seen to be believed, if the other prognosis is good, this may give you some hope x

https://www.facebook.com/princefluffykareem/?ref=ts&fref=ts

This is the specific horse I was thinking about as soon as I read your post. This horse couldn't stand and now is up at walking.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1027820660597076.1073742478.198177013561449&type=3
 
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Unfortunately for your horse HH I am of the same opinion. At this stage I would get John Keen involved if he will come up and x ray the horse immediately. You need an xray in the very least. Comfortable or not all she needs to do is keep her head still for 15 seconds for a click of a button. If this is not an option then I would seriously think of saying the goodbyes.


I think this. I am sure OP and mum don't want Rosa to suffer a second longer than necessary. It must be so heartwrenching feeling like they have not received the veterinary care they needed. If she were my horse I would now be wanting immediate pain relief and then proper investigations on the spot, X-ray, scan, or whatever they can do to get as accurate a diagnosis as possible, and then make the decision one way or another. If for whatever reason they were unable to X-ray or scan or give a diagnosis then I would not want my horse to suffer any more. My heart goes out to you HH. I so hope that your mare is holding up and you get some answers which help you to move forward tonight. Xxxx
 

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Well, apparently john Keen agrees with us and my own vets!!
He must be losing the plot too!!

He's prescribed another drug which she's been given tonight that will last 24 hours. In the meantime he has asked the visiting vet to source the drug my vet suggested two days ago, that had been ignored by the junior vet with the ego.

He's also insisted Rosa be given a large Vit B injection to try and give her a boost after being allowed to deteriorate.

She's not out of the woods yet but she does have an expert on her case, at last.

P.S. the vet left 15 minutes ago and Rosa is now eating and bright again. Maybe a vitamin injection wasn't such a silly idea after all, either.
 
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