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[ycbm]

Hi no it’s not an article I’m looking to start a business in the equine industry and want to fill a need not just be another business that starts up doing the same as everyone else.

OK, so you're using the forum for market research to identify a business opportunity. Thank you for explaining.
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[quizzie]

If we had a gadget that measured the sugars(as suggested) we may be able to cut down on some of the soaking etc? We end up with endless soaking for x hours and we don't actually know how much good its doing or whether its actually necessary? We may only need to soak half the hay for example. Anything that makes this jpb easier!

There already are 2 ways.....send for analysis, or for a rather rough and ready measurement, use a refractometer.

 

[Caol Ila]

Fly spray that actually works against cleg flies.

 

[Floofball]

Pre-soaked and dried hay
A gadget you could put a handful of grass or forage in, and it would tell you the sugar/starch content
Also a gadget you could wrap around a horse's legs to get an objective reading for the strength of the digital pulses, like a BP cuff for humans

Oh YES to all ??

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Can confirm this actually exists!!

You lucky lucky @ugger ? when can I bring my horses ?

 

[canteron]

Pre-filled Haynets`

Is that called having a groom?

 

[PinkvSantaboots]

Pre-filled Haynets`

Is that called having a groom?

It's my worst job I loath filling up nets from a round bale I did 20 nets today ?

 

[Aarongeorge]

Pre-filled Haynets`

Is that called having a groom?

I think it is yes haha

 

[Aarongeorge]

Oh YES to all ??

Just want to thank everyone for your comments, in the coming weeks I’m going to find out if the pre soaked and dried hay can be done. Anyone who is interested in a bale which will be 20kg bags send me an email to aarongeorgemurphy@gmail.com and I will send you a free bale to test.
Aaron

 

[Red-1]

Just want to thank everyone for your comments, in the coming weeks I’m going to find out if the pre soaked and dried hay can be done. Anyone who is interested in a bale which will be 20kg bags send me an email to aarongeorgemurphy@gmail.com and I will send you a free bale to test.
Aaron

If such a product came to market, I would be interested. However, I am somewhat cautious to give my personal email to someone I don't know for a product we don't know will ever exist.

 

[Aarongeorge]

If such a product came to market, I would be interested. However, I am somewhat cautious to give my personal email to someone I don't know for a product we don't know will ever exist.

That’s fair enough for anyone who doesn’t want to give there email out, I will post back on here when I’m ready to send bales out and go from there.

 

[little_critter]

Out of interest, how would a purchaser know that the hay has been pre-soaked and dried? An unscrupulous trader could send out normal hay bales and claim they had been pre-soaked.

 

[ycbm]

Just want to thank everyone for your comments, in the coming weeks I’m going to find out if the pre soaked and dried hay can be done. Anyone who is interested in a bale which will be 20kg bags send me an email to aarongeorgemurphy@gmail.com and I will send you a free bale to test.
Aaron

I don't think this will run as a product, Aaron. There are already low sugar 20kg packs of haylage sold for this purpose. People continue to soak hay because these are so much more expensive, but after drying and repacking yours will be no cheaper.

Check out the Horsehage range. There are others as well.
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[ycbm]

If such a product came to market, I would be interested. However, I am somewhat cautious to give my personal email to someone I don't know for a product we don't know will ever exist.

Your caution is very sensible. Aaron doesn't even know if the product can be made yet, never mind whether it can be done at a price which will make it commercially viable. It's way too early to be asking for email addresses.
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[Aarongeorge]

Out of interest, how would a purchaser know that the hay has been pre-soaked and dried? An unscrupulous trader could send out normal hay bales and claim they had been pre-soaked.

Why are people so cynical? Don’t you think there are easier ways to rip people off than sending out dry hay?? I’m on here trying to find a gap in an industry I’ve worked in all of my adult life that’s all, sometimes thing are actually what they seem!!

 

[cauda equina]

'Unscrupulous traders' could claim all sorts of things, but one hopes that there enough consumer protection measures in place to catch them out

Good luck Aaron, I'd love to see this get off the ground

 

[ycbm]

The best one on here so far, with a genuine market at the right price, if it was feasible to make, is the digital pulse metre for laminitis checks. It would be a godsend for many people.
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[ycbm]

I don't think this will run as a product, Aaron. There are already low sugar 20kg packs of haylage sold for this purpose. People continue to soak hay because these are so much more expensive, but after drying and repacking yours will be no cheaper.

Check out the Horsehage range. There are others as well.
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Sorry, thinking of even more reasons this won't fly. The hay will have to be soaked loose and to do that commercially the tanks will be huge and the mechanism to get it out to drain big and costly. Drying will cost a fortune in energy (soaked hay is too wet to dry in the sun for free) and the soaking and drying units will need to be close together because transporting wet hay won't be cost effective. You will need a small industrial estate. The result of soaking will be a large quantity of water which is very contaminated and not allowed to go into the public drainage, requiring specialist processing to dispose of.

I think I'm beginning to see why nobody has done it before!
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[Indy]

The best one on here so far, with a genuine market at the right price, if it was feasible to make, is the digital pulse metre for laminitis checks. It would be a godsend for many people.
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I would buy a digital pulse reader that would be quite a gamechanger for a lot of people and I think would be extremely marketable

 

[Abacus]

Sorry, thinking of even more reasons this won't fly. The hay will have to be soaked loose and to do that commercially the tanks will be huge and the mechanism to get it out to drain big and costly. Drying will cost a fortune in energy (soaked hay is too wet to dry in the sun for free) and the soaking and drying units will need to be close together because transporting wet hay won't be cost effective. You will need a small industrial estate. The result of soaking will be a large quantity of water which is very contaminated and not allowed to go into the public drainage, requiring specialist processing to dispose of.

I think I'm beginning to see why nobody has done it before!
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I had these same thoughts in a bit less detail - it would only be viable in a large scale commercial unit and would at least double the cost.

 

[ycbm]

I would buy a digital pulse reader that would be quite a gamechanger for a lot of people and I think would be extremely marketable

I'm seeing one of those curly watch strap things, that you just slip straight round the fetlock and take today's reading, or Bluetooth it to your laminitis record on your phone. There really is a market for it, isn't there? I would have paid probably £20-30, maybe more, when I had horses which were prone to pulses.

It would take all the guesswork out of finding it in the first place and then deciding whether it's stronger or weaker today.

My husband takes his own ECG readings on a thing smaller than a credit card, this must be feasible, surely?
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[SEL]

If you can conjure up something to spread "weather" more evenly over the months I'm buying. Fried fields in July / August are now a waterlogged bog.

Also waterproof trousers that stay up ? and gloves that stay dry and the insides don't come out and need poking back in.

(Wet morning at SEL towers ....)

 

[MuddyMonster]

Geniune question but would pre-soaked and then dried hay be safe to use?

I've always been told to use it as soon after soaking & rinsing as possible (especially in the warmer months) as it can start to go off. If there is any left the next day it definitely has a funky smell ...

 

[Gloi]

Just want to thank everyone for your comments, in the coming weeks I’m going to find out if the pre soaked and dried hay can be done. Anyone who is interested in a bale which will be 20kg bags send me an email to aarongeorgemurphy@gmail.com and I will send you a free bale to test.
Aaron

I'd worry about mould content.

 

[scats]

A digital pulse checker would be fabulous! Considering you can get smart watches and fitbits that give pulse information for people, I would imagine it’s not impossible to do.

One that links to an app so you can record the daily pulse would be great, as we know all horses are different so being able to look out for increases at certain times/weather/change of grazing.

 

[Crugeran Celt]

Rain, mud, dark evenings, winter in general and flies.

 

[SussexbytheXmasTree]

I don't think this will run as a product, Aaron. There are already low sugar 20kg packs of haylage sold for this purpose. People continue to soak hay because these are so much more expensive, but after drying and repacking yours will be no cheaper.

Check out the Horsehage range. There are others as well.
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Haylage isn’t the same as dry hay though and many people don’t like feeding haylage and many horses don’t like haylage.

I think what people are looking for is a dry dust free, very low sugar long fibre that they can feed like hay. Whether or not it’s viable as a product and cost wise is something the “inventor” can look into. It would have to be some sort of factory process of washing and drying to prevent mould etc.

 

[ycbm]

For anyone looking for a hay-without-soaking solution for the winter, the Horsehage Timothy I bought two years ago was extremely dry, more like bagged hay, and very palatable. There are also suppliers of Timothy hay by the pallet, or there were when I was looking for it. All very expensive compared to soaking ordinary hay though.
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[SussexbytheXmasTree]

For anyone looking for a hay-without-soaking solution for the winter, the Horsehage Timothy I bought two years ago was extremely dry, more like bagged hay, and very palatable. There are also suppliers of Timothy hay by the pallet, or there were when I was looking for it. All very expensive compared to soaking ordinary hay though.
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I bought a bag of that some last winter as it was low sugar and I don’t know if it was a bad bag but neither of mine would eat it.

 

[Birker2020]

Waste of time: Electrolyte licks!
Service: a hot line for someone to come out that day to try and sort your horse out whether that be riding or leading x