Horse whisperers - do you believe?

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A girl on our yard had a horse whisperer out yesterday and there is something that just can't be explained as far as I'm concerned.

Owner said that she went to bring the horse in and on the way back from the field she said to him 'I need you to tell me if you want to stay here or if we should move on'. That's the only thing she wanted to find out from him.

Horse was put in the stable while whisperer woman stood aside and she turned to my friend and said 'Are you thinking about leaving here? He wants you to know that you don't need this place as a security blanket anymore and he will settle as long as you're with him.'

How can this be explained? If I had brought my horse in and she had said that to me then it would have made zero sense. My friend was on her own when she went to catch the horse in and was a good 400 meters away from the woman when she spoke to her lad.

I had this woman out last year and while she told me nothing profound she did know I hadnt ridden for some time. She said that my mare kept showing herself through my eyes, as if I'm always watching and not riding. Again, had she said that to my neighbour then it would have made no sense at all. I had jod boots on, a hat was hanging outside my stable, my Facebook is locked down and we have no mutual friends.

I'm very sceptical but how can it be explained. I'm not stupid, I stayed completely silent during my reading and my friend did nothing but make records while she spoke.

What do you think? How can the usual cries of 'you give off signals' and 'she reads the person and not the horse' be true? I can't believe that it can be true but then how else can she get these things right. She wasn't vague in any way and it wasn't the only thing that was exactly right, it was just interesting that she answered the very question my friend hoped to have answered.
 
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If its the same woman I've seen then I really wasnt impressed. she missed something incredibly major and obvious, well to me at least! The horses owner didnt seem to see it either, so I am completely convinced that she just reads people incredibly well. But maybe I'm just an old cynic who has watched too many episodes of The Mentalist :lol:
 
FrankieCob said:
If its the same woman I've seen then I really wasnt impressed. she missed something incredibly major and obvious, well to me at least! The horses owner didnt seem to see it either, so I am completely convinced that she just reads people incredibly well. But maybe I'm just an old cynic who has watched too many episodes of The Mentalist :lol:
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Ooh what were her initials?
 
A good friend of mine, let's call her Elizabeth (not her real name), a good few years ago now, had the late Julie Dicker out to "read" her horses. She started to "talk" to her old mare.

She told her things that no-one could ever have possibly have known that had happened with one of the ponies that her daughter had when she was a kid; this old mare had been around then and told her basically what had been the problem with his rearing and general behaviour - this particular horse had had to be PTS and the mare described to Julie the behaviour and what had caused it...... my friend said there was no possible way that anyone could have known the information that was given.

I might add that my friend Elizabeth is the most cynical and down-to-earth practical person you could ever meet, she has a very down to earth approach and isn't remotely open to being manipulated! But she was 101% convinced.
 
Soooo......... Anyone recommending anyone that they reall feel has been accurate ( ducks behind sofa to avoid the barrage of 'rubbish!!', 'phoney' ).
 
I had a horse whisperer to talk to my horse and friends horse. I was cynical so gave nothing away but it was spooky how both horses said things he couldn't have known. Being very factual, my horse told him he had hook on the back right tooth which had been missed on the last dentist check and was bothering him. I had the vet back to check his teeth, was told all fine, are you sure it was right not left,I confirmed and you guess it, they kept looking and found the tooth. Confess I told them he was tilting head and sharp tooth had been the cause before, not that a horse whisperer told me. There were lots of other comments we couldn't explain how he could know. You end up having to believe
 
I had a horse whisperer see my horse just for a bit of fun really. He'd seen a couple of others on the yard and owners had been quite impressed. I wasn't. Lots of things that should have come up didn't, and the stuff that did was a bit random and unconvincing. The chap gave some advice about flower remedies and homeopathic remedies, supposedly based on what the horse had told him. As soon as horse figured out said homeopathic remedies were not mints he had precisely zero interest. The flower remedies he actively chose to avoid.
 
Id love to have this done but I wouldn't want to actually pay anything for it cause I think it's a load of tosh lol
 
Mongoose11 said:
A girl on our yard had a horse whisperer out yesterday and there is something that just can't be explained as far as I'm concerned.

Owner said that she went to bring the horse in and on the way back from the field she said to him 'I need you to tell me if you want to stay here or if we should move on'. That's the only thing she wanted to find out from him.

Horse was put in the stable while whisperer woman stood aside and she turned to my friend and said 'Are ypou thinking about leaving here? He wants you to know that you don't need this place as a security blanket anymore and he will settle as long as you're with him.'

How can this be explained? If I had brought my horse in and she had said that to me then it would have made zero sense. My friend was on her own when she went to catch the horse in and was a good 400 meters away from the woman when she spoke to her lad.

I had this woman out last year and while she told me nothing profound she did know I hadnt ridden for some time. She said that my mare kept showing herself through my eyes, as if I'm always watching and not riding. Again, had she said that to my neighbour then it would have made no sense at all. I had jod boots on, a hat was hanging outside my stable, my Facebook is locked down and we have no mutual friends.

I'm very sceptical but how can it be explained. I'm not stupid, I stayed completely silent during my reading and my friend did nothing but make records while she spoke.

What do you think? How can the usual cries of 'you give off signals' and 'she reads the person and not the horse' be true? I can't believe that it can be true but then how else can she get these things right. She wasn't vague in any way and it wasn't the only thing that was exactly right, it was just interesting that she answered the very question my friend hoped to have answered.
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Ask Derren Brown how he does it. If you see his live show in a small theatre you'd never believe in spiritualists or horse whisperers ever again.

I've seen him live on stage (I found his ability sinister and almost frightening) and I've seen him live on TV convince a sceptical bookies clerk at a greyhound track pay out on a ticket for a dog which did not win.
 
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About 3 years ago in a state of desperation I had someone 'speak' to one of my horses on recommendation from my osteopath. I am a scientist by heart and a huge sceptic, still am if truth be told. Anyway horse whisperer came out and did his thing.
I'd say about 90% of what was said was vague and I couldn't confirm truth or disprove - the type of thing you could probably interpret for any horse if you wished.

The remaining 10% was so freaky that there is now a tiny part of me that is a reluctant believer.

I do however believe most people doing this are charlatans. This guy that came to me charged £45. He lived about 60 miles away. He spent approx 45 mins with the horse and came out for two horses. Taking into account travel time and petrol he was pretty much doing the readings for free!
 
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I don't believe. For one thing, I'm pretty sure that horses can't speak English, so quite how they tell these whisperers things in such wonderful language I'm not sure.

I watched that Derren Brown program a few years ago where he followed some psychics to either prove or disprove them and at the start of the program I couldn't believe how accurate these people were and I thought that no way could Derren prove that it was all false. That was until he was able to give completely accurate readings himself to people and then reveal how he did it.

It was a fascinating documentary and I wish I could find it to watch it again.
 
I am also a cynic about horse whisperers and spiritualists but many years a friend had a "girly night", few glasses of wine and a lady who read the tarot cards, just a bit of a laugh! She told 2 close friends that someone they knew would have a baby, an unexpected pregnancy that would bring great joy but she didn't say anything to me. We spent time comparing notes and came up with a few people they knew that I didn't. Yes, you've guessed it was me! I was not pregnant at the time, was in my forties, in a relationship but had no plans for children. Said child has just qualified as a doctor and has given me and my, now, husband so much happiness and was, I have to admit, unplanned. Unfortunately the other prediction was not good. She told my best friend that her (deceased) aunt was concerned for her health. It spooked my friend as her aunt had died quite young of breast cancer so she paid to have a complete check with BUPA, nothing was found but a couple of years later she developed breast cancer and sadly died aged 50 from secondaries. I cannot explain any of it (and there were other things too) but I won't go near any of it now having had this experience. I don't want to know about the future if I don't have control over it! Horse whisperers, well I won't have them either!
 
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The woman only had to come on here and see how many posts are around leaving yards to make a fair bet that, that question would be a good one to start with, lol!

I'm not convinced. I like to think i have an amazing bond with my horse and can read him well and we both have a great level of understanding (especially now he is at home) but I'm not convinced a stranger could turn up and 'speak' to him!
 
ycbm said:
Ask Derren Brown how he does it. If you see his live show in a small theatre you'd never believe in spiritualists or horse whisperers ever again.

I've seen him live on stage (I found his ability sinister and almost frightening) and I've seen him live on TV convince a sceptical bookies clerk at a greyhound track pay out on a ticket for a dog which did not win.
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This!!

I've seen Derren Brown, watched all his shows, there are ways of reading people and saying something that seems correct, but is really just vague and you're the one that 'connects' the dots and makes it into something. He's really good and explains things really well, after watching his stuff I'd never believe in psychics or 'whisperers'.

I don't really know how people can talk to horses, why would they all speak english? Or do whisperers know a different secret language? :D I'm a scientist and a sceptic so I guess I would never believe - animals don't have the same thought processes as us, don't worry about the same things, don't see the 'bigger picture' like us so why would they communicate like us? If they understood things like this why are some still such spooky monkeys when we always reassure them they're OK and spook in the same spot EVERYDAY with nothing bad happening???

If my horse could communicate all he'd think about is food and snoozing! And he'd do it in German!
 
A similar conversation came up on my then-yard a couple of years back.

With a bit of cold reading and reference to a telephone conversation I'd overheard (been standing right next to the person at the time - not sneaky eavesdropping!) I managed to convince everybody I had psychic powers.

I then told them exactly how I'd done everything.

They didn't believe me and decided I DO have psychic powers, I'm just not aware of them.

Perhaps I should set myself up in business!
 
Amye said:
If my horse could communicate all he'd think about is food and snoozing! And he'd do it in German!
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I remember watching an episode of Black Beauty from the British series on German TV. The Germans overdub everything for television; Untertitel sind verboten! Not only were the human actors words revoiced in German, they overdubbed the equine vocalisations too (presumably also in German?!).
 
Oh yes i believe.But I also believe the world is flat,Elvis is alive and honest politician's exist.Livery had one come out the other week.She hangs on her every word.Amongst the stunning revelations were things like,horse A wants a certain colour halter,horse B wants a certain colour rug,etc.But the one that really promoted my best John Cleese wide eyed stare was the fact that my gelding was taking the mickey out of her gelding over the fence.WHAAAAT!!!.How exactly?.'You look like a Filly in that purple rug',Who cut your mane?,it looks silly','Your bum's so big it blocks out the sun'.LOL.So errrr NO!.Ok for a bit of fun,but i can think of more productive (and fun) ways of blowing £60!.
 
If you go to the theatre to watch certain physic entertainers and enjoy what you are seeing that's good for you. My bil was a threatre manager there are some quite interesting things go on in the crowd but if you enjoying it that's good for you.

I have also read the tarot cards for a few people and they relate things to what they hear. One guy at work wrote it all down and started crying. He knew it was to prove you make it up in your head the parts that relate to your life and your not actually listening to what I am saying.
 
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100% skeptic. It's just very clever cold reading. Horses cannot speak English and only really think in the now.
Also been to see Derrin Brown live, his shows are absolutely fascinating. Amazing to realise though we all seem so different, we're all essentially wired the same way.
 
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I had a horse whisperer see my horse just for a bit of fun really. He'd seen a couple of others on the yard and owners had been quite impressed. I wasn't. Lots of things that should have come up didn't, and the stuff that did was a bit random and unconvincing. The chap gave some advice about flower remedies and homeopathic remedies, supposedly based on what the horse had told him. As soon as horse figured out said homeopathic remedies were not mints he had precisely zero interest. The flower remedies he actively chose to avoid.
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I wonder if I had the same person, as I was also recommended flower remedies :)

I'm another total sceptic but I was desperate and willing to try anything. I've had (perfectly normal!) a flatwork lesson with the chap that came to see my horse and figured that if nothing else, it was another experienced set of eyes that might be able to spot something I'd missed.

most was generic waffle, IMO, a small amount was very physically specific and helpful - got some issues looked into which improved the horse.

Not sure I'd do it again for the horses I have now - one is very able to communicate directly as it is! :D and the one I had seen has come on through her troubled time. But I couldn't totally rule out the possibility I'd do the same in the future if we reached crisis point and had tried everything - but I'm not interested in what their favourite colour headcollar is etc so I'd be very selective who I used :lol: and would view it in the same way - just another set of eyes on a horse that was struggling with something.
 
Another sceptic here. I think sometimes it's the odd thing that we connect with, and we remember and focus on that, and forget the vast majority that is vague or incorrect. Also a Derren Brown fan, maybe that's the telling factor?!
 
I've used them twice, one was a remote (she was in America) the other came to visit. The one in America described my horse's character so accurately it was uncanny, and was pretty spot on with her health conditions. I had only given my horses' name and that she was in England. This is all pre-Facebook etc. The chap who came out was doing it as a project (it would take too long to explain) but he came up from somewhere in the South of England and did my horse for £5. He never actually touched her, she was stood absolutely still in her stable),and again, he knew nothing about her at all. He picked up on her medical conditions again and didn't make any small talk with me at all. Then he came out with a question which was nothing to do with horses at all and really totally off the wall, and my first reply was well I don't think she has been watching it (it was a TV programme) but then I had admitted that as it was a blast from my very distant past I had gone out of my way to watch it the previous weekend. As to communicating in English he told me that he saw images and translated them into English, and sensed pain and inflammation in the horses' bodies and again ,pictured it. I had first heard about him as he offered his services completely free to a horse rescue centre based near himself and would examine all the new horses as they arrived at the sanctuary to try to help with their rehab. They thought the world of him and were very happy to go with what he told them .

I'm a scientist but I like to think I have an open mind. I am naturally suspicious of people and "fads" and hate making on the spot decisions - I like to go away and think and research for myself.

At the moment I will state that a. there are indeed alot of fakes about, and b. I haven't made my mind up.
 
I'm with Ant in that enough people move yards often enough to make it a reasonably good bet, if you weren't planning to move then I'm sure they would play it that the horse was worried and they could be reassured so it could be worked both ways

I don't believe in 'horse whisperers' as such but I do believe that sometimes a horse can be visibly unhappy and that owners may not be experienced enough to see the signs so a more experienced horse person could offer an insight that the owner may not posess - especially given the number of novice owners out there

I had a very nervous pony that when it came down to it I was not experienced enough to cope with, a competent person came out and her body language was such that the pony was more relaxed - had she honed her skills slightly differently I am sure she would make lots of money as a whisperer - all she would have to say is 'fluffy wishes that you wouldn't pussyfoot around and is worried that you aren't assertive enough, he has had a fright early in his life, was beaten with bog sticks and needs you to understand that being jumpy around him isn't helping'
 
DTV said:
Oh yes i believe.But I also believe the world is flat,Elvis is alive and honest politician's exist.Livery had one come out the other week.She hangs on her every word.Amongst the stunning revelations were things like,horse A wants a certain colour halter,horse B wants a certain colour rug,etc.But the one that really promoted my best John Cleese wide eyed stare was the fact that my gelding was taking the mickey out of her gelding over the fence.WHAAAAT!!!.How exactly?.'You look like a Filly in that purple rug',Who cut your mane?,it looks silly','Your bum's so big it blocks out the sun'.LOL.So errrr NO!.Ok for a bit of fun,but i can think of more productive (and fun) ways of blowing £60!.
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are you really serious?
did they go and buy the rugs?
I just can t get my head around that!
 
Actually what you are describing is an animal communicator, not a horse whisperer (who modifies behaviour based on, very often, body language).
I know someone who does this and she is quite surprised that not everyone can. I'll admit to being a sceptic, especially when she said my horse didn't feel he could jump these days (he has never jumped, because of pigeon toes and fetlock problems so he has no concept of jumping).
But when my cat was missing for a month I did ask her and she described the environment he was in at that time I went and called him in all the places I could think of that fitted the description and although he didn't magically appear, within 5 minutes he was crossing a neighbours garden on the way home. Coincidence? After a month away, it would be a very remarkable one.
 
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luckyoldme said:
are you really serious?
did they go and buy the rugs?
I just can t get my head around that!
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A lady at my yard had heard great things about a local man who did whispering so called him out to speak to her youngish mare. I stood and watched from a few feet away. Apparently the horse really liked her pink water buckets and wanted everything else to be pink as well. At least the people I've used previously didn't come out with anything as daft as that.
 
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