How do I word it... is it justified... is it just a rant?

[dominobrown]

Day after notice expires they are told all items left behind are going to the tip!

I’m not confrontational at all by nature but I’d have utterly had it with these people and I’d reclaim my home and yard from them without hesitation.

My OH wants to burn everything… managed to stop him so far but luck won’t hold too much longer!

He is a bit of clean freak. Was a bit embarrassed when the vet came the other day and the yard is tidy about from a humongous pile of bin bags, buckets with rubbish etc all piled outside one stable.

 

[cauda equina]

Few days left. I have moved most of their stuff to a mountain outside their stable (bin bags and all) as they told me there were going to start taking bits and bobs away. Nothing has moved yet though. Afraid that new yard has got cold feet.....

The new yard getting cold feet is not your problem.
When their notice is up, away they go!

 

[Ambers Echo]

If there is not much left on the notice and no tangible signs of movement, I would be making clear (even if you have already) that the abandonment procedure will be followed.

I would deffo do this. They assume they can just ignore you, so you need to use legal avenues. Even if you don’t follow through, it’s a clear statement of intent and they are far more likely to get their act together if they think they might lose their possessions and their horse if they just pretend this isn’t happening. Im infuriated on your behalf!

 

[FieldOrnaments]

You've got the patience of a ruddy saint DB!!

 

[SpotsandBays]

Few days left. I have moved most of their stuff to a mountain outside their stable (bin bags and all) as they told me there were going to start taking bits and bobs away. Nothing has moved yet though. Afraid that new yard has got cold feet.....

That’s good. Make sure the other areas are locked up so that your stuff doesn’t go too!

 

[Cobxfan55]

The last problem about your horse being ridden by a beginner do you have any security cameras next to the area that can be kept as evidence

 

[SpotsandBays]

Not sure if this is a thing (or a good idea) but maybe put a sign up on their stable door stating that any stuff that isn’t removed by the end of the notice period will be taken to the dump and that you will serve an abandonment notice

Alternatively, let us know your location and I’m sure the HHO collective will come at the ready with pitchforks!

On a serious note though, I hope you’re doing ok

 

[dominobrown]

Think sign on the door would be good, but would help if they showed up to see it....
Will give an update when we have any sort of movement....

 

[HopOnTrot]

As a good YO when notice is up you should go above and beyond and deliver their bags of shite back to their house!

Who leaves their horse to go on holiday without telling anyone?!

 

[Ambers Echo]

Think sign on the door would be good, but would help if they showed up to see it....
Will give an update when we have any sort of movement....

It doesn’t matter if they don’t see it. That’s the point of an abandonment notice - it’s left were they should see it. But if a horse is abandoned then obviously people don’t see the notices. After 4 days, ownership of the horse legally transfers to you.

 

[Dave's Mam]

I have my fingers crossed it goes ok.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

what a palaver, can you give the stuff to a charity if it is salvageable??

 

[D66]

She has already abandoned her horse by not arranging care for him while she goes away.

OP, have you considered contacting the police to tell them the situation before things kick-off.

 

[dorsetladette]

Think sign on the door would be good, but would help if they showed up to see it....
Will give an update when we have any sort of movement....

When I put abandonment notices up I put them on every entrance. Then emailed to local police and also a copy was sent to the owner electronically. (I also took a photo of the notice and sent it to her via facebook messenger) she still didn't react but I'd satisfied myself that she had definitely seen it.

Pony was sold for a low value (to cover my expenses) to a mother/daughter share home, with the help of a local dealer.

 

[ycbm]

So they have found another yard but not moved yet. They have ignored the last invoice so in the red now, but haven't been down to do their horse as they have had a nice few days holiday in the Lakes... which I only found out through a mutual acquaintances snapchat. It's hard to have a word when messages are ignored and there is no one coming to the yard....

You are being mightily taken for a ride by this woman!

They have already abandoned the horse by not paying the livery and not coming to deal with it. In your shoes I would issue the notice now including texting her. It might focus her mind a little.
.

 

[AmyMay]

You are being mightily taken for a ride by this woman!

They have already abandoned the horse by not paying the livery and not coming to deal with it. In your shoes I would issue the notice now including texting her. It might focus her mind a little.
.

Great advice.

 

[teacups]

Few days left. I have moved most of their stuff to a mountain outside their stable (bin bags and all) as they told me there were going to start taking bits and bobs away. Nothing has moved yet though. Afraid that new yard has got cold feet.....

Well done moving the pile of rubbish to outside their stable - quite a lot of work you should not need to have done, but a nice clear signal that you mean business. Which she may ignore.

She may not even have a new yard - just something to pacify you. It will have then fallen through at the last minute...

I would be in two minds about issuing an abandonment notice - I liked LadyGascoyne's advice about not sweating the small stuff and concentrating on the final goal. Then again: this isn't small stuff.
I think at the very least I would put on record that she hasn't paid for livery, nor been to see her horse, nor have you heard anything from her - by sending her a text or message (have you got contact details?) - and that unless you hear otherwise within x days you'll assume she has abandoned her horse and her things. Stress it's urgent she gets in touch as soon as possible.

Usual time given in most legal matters would be something like 7 days, which would probably take her to the end of the notice period or nearly there. Or perhaps you could make it something which takes it to 4 days short of the end of the notice period, then you can issue an abandonment notice to coincide with the end of that.
The main thing is that you can show, if necessary, to eg police/courts or even her henchmen, proof that you have taken all possible steps to be reasonable.

 

[Squeak]

Are you a member of BHS? Might be worth having a chat with their legal team about best ways to proceed so that you're armed and ready.

Really hope it ends up with an easy solution and they turn up and move horse and stuff.

 

[Pinkvboots]

As far as your aware she has just not turned up to do the horse she hasn't said she is on holiday.

I would take that as she has abandoned the horse because she is now in debt so you can sell the horse to get the money back you are owed.

I would do abandoned notice and notify her about it.

 

[dominobrown]

So just got a message while I am at work saying they are picking the horse up and forgot to tell me.
Never mind I have rearranged the time.
Said they can’t afford final invoice as struggling for money they have only has 2 holidays this month and they don’t work… the hardship is real…

 

[setterlover]

Good news at least the horse will be gone .You could then start proceedings through the small claims court for the outstanding money.
Hopefully all their 'stuff ' will also be gone.

 

[cauda equina]

Cheeky beggars!
Even if you don't recover the money I hope that will be a reasonable price to pay to be rid of them and all their crap, both literal and metaphorical

 

[ihatework]

So just got a message while I am at work saying they are picking the horse up and forgot to tell me.
Never mind I have rearranged the time.
Said they can’t afford final invoice as struggling for money they have only has 2 holidays this month and they don’t work… the hardship is real…

Is anything of their stuff going to be readily sellable? Saddle or something?
I might be inclined to keep a hold of it and at least threaten to sell if they don’t stump up the money. I would be more inclined to go small claims than actually get into the murky zone of selling their stuff, but the threat may just be enough.

I hate scroungers like this.

 

[zoon]

Take the horse in lieu of payment and sell it. Doesn’t seem like she cares for
The poor thing anyway

 

[nikkimariet]

So just got a message while I am at work saying they are picking the horse up and forgot to tell me.
Never mind I have rearranged the time.
Said they can’t afford final invoice as struggling for money they have only has 2 holidays this month and they don’t work… the hardship is real…

Hope you’ve kept their equipment to resell in lieu of non payment. Ridiculously entitled people and you’re far more tolerant than myself.

 

[Lurfy]

I hope they get their horse and gear and you never hear from them again. Goodbye and don't let the door hit you on the way out. That is a client from hell!

 

[Katieg123]

At this point I would just forget the money and be glad she's gone...

 

[Art Nouveau]

Is anything of their stuff going to be readily sellable? Saddle or something?
I might be inclined to keep a hold of it and at least threaten to sell if they don’t stump up the money. I would be more inclined to go small claims than actually get into the murky zone of selling their stuff, but the threat may just be enough.

I hate scroungers like this.

I don't think this is legal. I had a situation on my yard when a livery stopped paying, and I looked into holding onto their stuff at the time but I couldn't find anything that said I could do that.
If anyone has evidence that I could have held on to and sold her stuff to cover the debt I'd love to hear of it.

 

[ihatework]

I don't think this is legal. I had a situation on my yard when a livery stopped paying, and I looked into holding onto their stuff at the time but I couldn't find anything that said I could do that.
If anyone has evidence that I could have held on to and sold her stuff to cover the debt I'd love to hear of it.

No I’m not convinced it is legal hence how I worded my response

 

[Clodagh]

At this point I would just forget the money and be glad she's gone...

This all the way.