HOW DO MY HORSES HOOVES LOOK ??

[TuscanBunnyGirl]

and yeah i know 'i have no knowledge'

so why take the ponies on in the first place?

 

[slumdog]

No, because you sound like a stroppy teenager.

 

[tessybear]

i didnt say you did.and yeah i know 'i have no knowledge' obviously the reason you thought i was younger?

That and your childish responses.

 

[Queenbee]

i dont care about the opinions on the horses feet,because as i said i know they do need a trim,that is all im asking about,but i would like to know what posts about my other animals makes you think they are not cared for ????

Then why ask "how do my horses hooves look"

I hope there is some real help and intervention soon. When you got the youngster you should have had him sedated and had his hooves seen to... But clearly to say you are way out of your depth even with the other lady to advise is a huge understatement

 

[erwina]

I think we should try give the op benefit of the doubt until farrier or vet see the animals, as we all know pics can be deceiving.

 

[TPO]

All of them are shocking as they continually highlight that you have no knowledge about equines or how to care for them.

Love, oh yes, that fixes everything and completely makes up for your ignorant and arrogant approach to horse ownership...

Completely agree with Queenbee.

For goodness sake at the very least get a book from the library as some form of starting point.

I never get involved in threads of this nature but this is frankly ridiculous. How you cannot see what is so blatant is beyond me.

YOU posted asking how their feet were looking ( answer: terrible) and have previously posted asking advice on handling, riding, lice, flies, field suitably and feeding. Yet now you are an expert; they don't have lami and are only slightly overgrown. The grass and a lick will meet all your horses requirements despite you not knowing what an equine requires.

How can you not see this OP?? Where have you seen horses in the same condition as yours? Look in picture gallery on here; no healthy horse had feet like yours.

I give up, as you've already demonstrated you do what you wasnt regardless of the advice you ask for. I just seriously hope that you are paid a visit and FINALLY take heed.

 

[mariebx19]

(((i dont care about the opinions on the horses feet)))

I MEAN YOU CAN SAY ALL YOU WANT...I DONT CARE HOW RUDE OR HOW BAD THEY OPINIONS ARE,THAT IS WHAT I MEANT (OBVIOUSLY WORDED WRONG) BUT DONT BRING MY OTHER ANIMALS INTO IT.

TuscanBunnyGirl-I KNOW ABOUT KEEPING HORSES AND EVERYDAY THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW BUT NO I DONT KNOW HEALTH PROBLEMS BUT THAT IS WHY THERE ARE VETS AND THINGS THAT DO,I CAN TELL WHEN THE VET IS NEEDED THAT IS ABOUT IT BUT IN THIS CASE ALL THEY NEED IS A GOOD TRIM.

slumdog-OBVIOUSLY I AM GOING TO GET DEFENSIVE

tessybear-THERE IS A REASON I ACT QUITE CHILDISH BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT...

Queenbee-BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OVERLY LONG (THE LAST LIVERY YARD I WAS AT HAD LOTS OF YOUNG HORSES WITH HOOVES CURLING UP) AND I WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM ON IT,NOW HE IS BETTER AND THE FARRIER HAS BEEN PHONED

 

[TPO]

I mentioned your other animals as you've posted asking care questions about then frequently. Therefore implying that you do not have any/ very little animal care knowledge.

Stop collecting animals and take some time to learn first.

Animals are far too easy got...

 

[Queenbee]

I give up, as you've already demonstrated you do what you wasnt regardless of the advice you ask for. I just seriously hope that you are paid a visit and FINALLY take heed.

This^^^

 

[TuscanBunnyGirl]

TuscanBunnyGirl-I KNOW ABOUT KEEPING HORSES AND EVERYDAY THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW BUT NO I DONT KNOW HEALTH PROBLEMS BUT THAT IS WHY THERE ARE VETS AND THINGS THAT DO,I CAN TELL WHEN THE VET IS NEEDED THAT IS ABOUT IT BUT IN THIS CASE ALL THEY NEED IS A GOOD TRIM.

Queenbee-BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OVERLY LONG (THE LAST LIVERY YARD I WAS AT HAD LOTS OF YOUNG HORSES WITH HOOVES CURLING UP) AND I WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM ON IT,NOW HE IS BETTER AND THE FARRIER HAS BEEN PHONED

Good lord. I wish this was a troll..
I hope you don't think the farrier will come, cut them back and it's all fine and dandy. Hooves that have become a welfare case like those can take months to get back to 'normal'.

Do you think it's okay to leave young horses with their feet curled up just because other people are doing it?!?!?!?! Would you jump off a cliff just because someone else did it?!?!?! No? Didn't think so. So how can you dare to have the ordasity to condone what you're putting these poor ponies through because someone else has done it!!!!! I saw someone pull there horse up because it didn't do a flying change in the correct place and boot it constantly with spurs..think I'm gonna do that to mine? I think not.

Do you understand what long term damage is done by this kind of neglect..and yes that is EXACTLY what this is, neglect. Sickening OP.

I understand that you can't do anymore about it right now that you already have done but do not sit back and think this is a small matter because you've allowed these ponies to suffer through your ignorance and now the issue has been highlighted...take some god damn responsibility and realise how bad the situation is!!!!!!!

'No hoof, No horse' ...remember that one.

 

[Queenbee]

(((i dont care about the opinions on the horses feet)))

I MEAN YOU CAN SAY ALL YOU WANT...I DONT CARE HOW RUDE OR HOW BAD THEY OPINIONS ARE,THAT IS WHAT I MEANT (OBVIOUSLY WORDED WRONG) BUT DONT BRING MY OTHER ANIMALS INTO IT.

TuscanBunnyGirl-I KNOW ABOUT KEEPING HORSES AND EVERYDAY THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW BUT NO I DONT KNOW HEALTH PROBLEMS BUT THAT IS WHY THERE ARE VETS AND THINGS THAT DO,I CAN TELL WHEN THE VET IS NEEDED THAT IS ABOUT IT BUT IN THIS CASE ALL THEY NEED IS A GOOD TRIM.

slumdog-OBVIOUSLY I AM GOING TO GET DEFENSIVE

tessybear-THERE IS A REASON I ACT QUITE CHILDISH BUT I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT...

Queenbee-BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OVERLY LONG (THE LAST LIVERY YARD I WAS AT HAD LOTS OF YOUNG HORSES WITH HOOVES CURLING UP) AND I WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM ON IT,NOW HE IS BETTER AND THE FARRIER HAS BEEN PHONED

Ok, bottom line... If that is what vets are for, you know like diagnosis of health problems and things... Why post on here asking us to diagnose if your horse has strangles... If you go to your vet for such things surely such an idiotic post would not have been necessary...


Wait a sec while I put my caps lock on YES THEY ARE OVERLY LONG!!!!!!!

Weak hooves curl and break, stronger hooves don't curl and break, they cause even more damage because they affect and distort the limbs even more because of the angle of growth.

Finally, my gasket has blown... You invited people to contact the SSPCA, well I did, this morning and they agree with my concerns...they are investigating and I am sure they will support you to get the right care administered to your horses because you are clearly failing in my opinion, but now its there opinion that count.

 

[tessybear]

Good lord. I wish this was a troll..
I hope you don't think the farrier will come, cut them back and it's all fine and dandy. Hooves that have become a welfare case like those can take months to get back to 'normal'.

Do you think it's okay to leave young horses with their feet curled up just because other people are doing it?!?!?!?! Would you jump off a cliff just because someone else did it?!?!?! No? Didn't think so. So how can you dare to have the ordasity to condone what you're putting these poor ponies through because someone else has done it!!!!! I saw someone pull there horse up because it didn't do a flying change in the correct place and boot it constantly with spurs..think I'm gonna do that to mine? I think not.

Do you understand what long term damage is done by this kind of neglect..and yes that is EXACTLY what this is, neglect. Sickening OP.

I understand that you can't do anymore about it right now that you already have done but do not sit back and think this is a small matter because you've allowed these ponies to suffer through your ignorance and now the issue has been highlighted...take some god damn responsibility and realise how bad the situation is!!!!!!!

'No hoof, No horse' ...remember that one.

^^ this although you may aswell be talking to a bloody wall lovely

 

[Queenbee]

Couldn't bite my tongue any longer guys.

 

[Purple18]

This thread is stupid....


everyone one has advised you on your horses mariebx19

what more do you want ?

if you want people to say your horses feet are fine and you don't need a vet then it won't happen everyobe would be lieing if they said that

you seriously can't think those horses look okay ?


take the advice call a vet asap

 

[be positive]

Queenbee-BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT OVERLY LONG (THE LAST LIVERY YARD I WAS AT HAD LOTS OF YOUNG HORSES WITH HOOVES CURLING UP) AND I WANTED TO WORK WITH HIM ON IT,NOW HE IS BETTER AND THE FARRIER HAS BEEN PHONED[/QUOTE]

Just because other youngsters have their feet neglected is no excuse, it says a lot about the livery yard if that is acceptable standards of care.

If he is hard to get his feet up, the vet can sedate him or give you sedative so the farrier can do his job properly, if you have no stable or anywhere enclosed to handle him sedation may be the most safe and sensible option.

 

[mariebx19]

I DIDNT SAY I WAS AN EXPERT.I AM FAR FROM IT.I DIDNT SAY LOVE FIXES EVERYTHING BUT THEY ARE HAPPY ANIMALS AND ARE LOVED UNCONDITIONALY AND I OWE ALOT TO THEM..THIS IS REALLY EMBARRISING TO SAY BUT IF IT WASNT FOR THEM I WOULDNT BE HERE(AND YES I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CHILDISH BUT THERE IS ALSO A REASON FOR THAT BEHAVIOUR) THAT IS WHY I WOULD NEVER JUST GIVE THEM AWAY OR GIVE UP ON THEM NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE GO THROUGH,BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH.I WOULD NEVER LEAVE ANY OF MY PETS IN PAIN AND THE HORSES CLEARLY ARENT BUT MONEY IS SOMETIMES AN ISSUE AT THE MOMENT BUT EVERYTHING DOES EVENTUALLY GET DONE.HANDLING HORSES,I DO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE BUT LIKE OTHERS OPINIONS AND THE LEADING CAN BE QUITE SCARY FOR ME (I DIDNT KNOW HE HAD THIS OR ANY OTHER PROBLEM WHEN I BOUGHT HIM,SO I ASKED WHAT THE BEST PRODUCT TO USE FOR FLIES AND LICE DOESNT MEAN I DONT KNOW ANYTHING OR THAT MY ANIMALS ARE AT RISK WITH ME .......FEEDING I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IS WHY I PAY LIVERY WHICH INCLUDES FEED AND THEM FEEDING THEM.

 

[tessybear]

Couldn't bite my tongue any longer guys.

It needed to be said !!

 

[TPO]

Ditto Queenbee, I called them this morning too & they've since linked the calls. I hope the horses get the care and help that they need.

 

[Purple18]

I DIDNT SAY I WAS AN EXPERT.I AM FAR FROM IT.I DIDNT SAY LOVE FIXES EVERYTHING BUT THEY ARE HAPPY ANIMALS AND ARE LOVED UNCONDITIONALY AND I OWE ALOT TO THEM..THIS IS REALLY EMBARRISING TO SAY BUT IF IT WASNT FOR THEM I WOULDNT BE HERE(AND YES I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CHILDISH BUT THERE IS ALSO A REASON FOR THAT BEHAVIOUR) THAT IS WHY I WOULD NEVER JUST GIVE THEM AWAY OR GIVE UP ON THEM NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE GO THROUGH,BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH.I WOULD NEVER LEAVE ANY OF MY PETS IN PAIN AND THE HORSES CLEARLY ARENT BUT MONEY IS SOMETIMES AN ISSUE AT THE MOMENT BUT EVERYTHING DOES EVENTUALLY GET DONE.HANDLING HORSES,I DO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE BUT LIKE OTHERS OPINIONS AND THE LEADING CAN BE QUITE SCARY FOR ME (I DIDNT KNOW HE HAD THIS OR ANY OTHER PROBLEM WHEN I BOUGHT HIM,SO I ASKED WHAT THE BEST PRODUCT TO USE FOR FLIES AND LICE DOESNT MEAN I DONT KNOW ANYTHING OR THAT MY ANIMALS ARE AT RISK WITH ME .......FEEDING I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IS WHY I PAY LIVERY WHICH INCLUDES FEED AND THEM FEEDING THEM.

the caps lock is really starting to p*** me off now....

your horses need help if your so sure your right. get a vet and if your right the vet will say they are as good as you say they are. your making yourself look like a fool now. all i see in your posts is you trying to explain why you do have knowledge you are you trying to convince us or yourself ?

 

[TPO]

OP, when you didn't have knowledge or money for one then getting a (unhandled) yearling really wasnt a good idea. If what you are saying is correct, and not just your perception, then you are not receiving the correct advice from the lady you mentioned either. Nor, it seems, are you able to learn by example when others around you keep their horses in a neglectful way.

If you're not in a situation to have the knowledge or money to care for them then it's not "giving up" to have them in a home that can meet their needs. You can still be involved with horses and learn as you go.

OP your horses need help and everything posted is out of genuine concern for your horses.

 

[TuscanBunnyGirl]

THEY ARE HAPPY ANIMALS AND ARE LOVED UNCONDITIONALY AND I OWE ALOT TO THEM
THEY HAVE GIVEN ME SO MUCH
NEVER LEAVE ANY OF MY PETS IN PAIN
MONEY IS SOMETIMES AN ISSUE AT THE MOMENT
LEADING CAN BE QUITE SCARY FOR ME
ANIMALS ARE AT RISK WITH ME .......FEEDING I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

You owe a lot to them? Enough not to let them suffer? I wish horses could scream when they were in pain etc because there'd be a lot less suffering but I guess because they can't physically tell us...maybe it's easy for you to just ignore and pretend it's not happening?

They've given you so much and you can't offer them a basic home without pain? Imagine someone pulling down your ligaments and tendons whenever you walk and your soles being in agony..

You took on a yearling when you find leading scary?!..

Yes your animals are at risk with you

I wouldn't even take on tropical fish for ages because I felt I didn't know enough about feeding...

If money is such an issue that you can't have your horses looked after correctly..well..i don't even know what to say

Please OP, just give them to someone who knows what they're on about..surely you can do that for your horses sake?

 

[Queenbee]

And op, before you get defensive... I'm not even saying you don't deserve horses, or that they should be taken out of your care, I'm simply saying you need appropriate help and support as like it or not your horses are suffering, and just looking at the youngster that growth angle will be causing deformities to his growth. I hope you and your horse get the appropriate support and guidance, but in all good conscience and for the first time ever, I simply couldn't sit back and not take some action.

 

[noodle_]

i wont repeat what has been said here (much)! but the feet are shocking but not half as shocking as your attitude OP....

ignorance is no excuse with animals. If you"wouldnt be here without them"....help them out this time.........get the vet out - a DECENT farrier and help THEM

 

[galaxy]

OP, I don't like getting involved in these threads but want to point out in case it's not been clear enough, but the problem with your yearlings feet is not that they are a bit overgrown. The underside of a horses feet should NOT look like that!!! It is not a case of a farrier coming out a paring a bit of foot away, and any decent farrier would not touch those feet without a vet seeing them first and possibly doing x rays to see what is going on inside as the protusion in the foot is worrying.

You have said the lady who helps you runs the yard that you used to keep the horses at? the same yard where there are horses with curling feet? The authorities should be visiting that yard too as that is cruelty and this is not a lady you should be turning to for advise.

Please also do something about your fencing. Internal electric tape if you have to. But plain wire is incredibly dangerous.

 

[Purple18]

if they have helped you

help them back they need you to call a vet

 

[Champion1969]

This thread has made me feel sick, im shocked

 

[SadKen]

I've got to admit I did feel a bit ill at the photos. As someone else said, it's possible that we're not seeing the feet properly because of the angle of the shot. Also I'm not sure whether anyone has told the OP simply why we think a vet is needed. OP the white bit protruding from the hoof on your first set of pics looks like the pedal bone coming through the sole of the hoof, which is what happens with laminitis. It's very painful for the horse. You'd need to get a vet out to sort out some pain relief at the very least as a trim won't fix this. A vet can also help with feeding suggestions and rehab of the hooves. Your heart is in the right place but these boys need to see a professional; you'll be doing the best thing an owner can do by calling one in. Heck, I don't know much at all, but I know a vet who does! Good luck.

 

[mariebx19]

I mentioned your other animals as you've posted asking care questions about then frequently. Therefore implying that you do not have any/ very little animal care knowledge.

Stop collecting animals and take some time to learn first.

Animals are far too easy got...

The only questions i have asked about the other animals is 'what to do with rabbits ashes' only because it was soo hard on me and i thought keeping them would have been too hard and spreading his ashes was kind of like 'freeing' him in some weird way...but i decided to keep them with me forever.
'HAS MY CAT BROKEN HER LEG'my 2 yo cat tilly was badly limping when she came in one night but it was only cuts and possibly an abscess from fighting..the vet said she felt heat which is why im not sure if there was an abscess or not.
'IS THIS THE FIRST SIGNS OF AGGRESSION'i bought a border collie pup who would chase and bite your feet and wanted opinions on wether it was aggressive or playful but she doesny do it anymore.
'WILL SHE EVER BE OK WITH PUP'my 4 yo dog was terrified from the pup at first...but then again she is scared of flies,spiders,planes etc...she is fine now and always playing.
'EXERCISE OR NOT'my pup got her leg stood on by my 6 yo nephew and was wimpering and badly limping so had to have an x-ray,turns out she had a really bad sprain,couldnt even get painkillers because the vet couldnt find some for her because she was so young.i didnt know wether she should be rested or exercised to heal it..she still limps occasionly but it doesnt bother her,she still jumps about everywhere
HAMSTER QUESTION'i wasnt sure what i could feed a hamster with one tooth and my sister who i took him from said he has a hunchback but the vet said he hasnt.

i have never injured my pets,never left them in pain so from these questions i dont know how anybody would get the idea from that they are not cared for or in the wrong hands or whatever

and yes they are FAR to easy to get

 

[Shadow the Reindeer]

I've got to admit I did feel a bit ill at the photos. As someone else said, it's possible that we're not seeing the feet properly because of the angle of the shot. Also I'm not sure whether anyone has told the OP simply why we think a vet is needed. OP the white bit protruding from the hoof on your first set of pics looks like the pedal bone coming through the sole of the hoof, which is what happens with laminitis. It's very painful for the horse. You'd need to get a vet out to sort out some pain relief at the very least as a trim won't fix this. A vet can also help with feeding suggestions and rehab of the hooves. Your heart is in the right place but these boys need to see a professional; you'll be doing the best thing an owner can do by calling one in. Heck, I don't know much at all, but I know a vet who does! Good luck.

Tbh with you, that is what I first thought, and I found myself going into denial.. I seriously hope it isn't otherwise he has foundered I'm surprized in this case, that the Yearling is able to walk as well as he is? I was always told LAMINITIS should be treated like a colic case, get the vet out FAST!

 

[Tiffany]

Marie, I'm not an expert on feet although the photos of your 1yos feet would worry me. I know your livery owner checks them but does she pick their feet up? I would want them looked at as a matter of urgency and if money is an issue I'm sure you'd be able to sort out payment terms out with your vet.

Better to be safe than sorry.