meleeka
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I think she just wants to make enough money to keep her horses. That's it. If she tells everyone how amazing she is, they'll believe her and it bypasses all that boring learning stuff, leaving her more time to go jumping.
How is this vet allowed to conduct themselves like this online?
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I think she just wants to make enough money to keep her horses. That's it. If she tells everyone how amazing she is, they'll believe her and it bypasses all that boring learning stuff, leaving her more time to go jumping.
Gamebird
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35hrs CPD a year is mandatory for RCVS registration - needs to be recorded and reflected upon on their app. The actual content or balance/relevance of topics studied is not checked unless there is an RCVS complaint which calls your proficiency into question. In that case they will check the actual content of your CPD, not just that you have done the required time.
maisie06
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I think there;s some serious mental health issues going on with SV . I wouldn't let her near a dead hamster let alone a horse.
slimjim86
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A friend used to keep her horse on the same yard as her, it was a long time ago before SV got her own place but apparently she was the same back then so not sure it's poor mental health, maybe just a serious personality disorder.
FieldOrnaments
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She doesn't need armchair diagnosis she's just a horribly overinflated ego 
Apizz2019
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I'm beginning to think she doesn't sleep!
For the last few days, she's been out daily, whilst dealing with emergency calls till goodness knows when o'clock, yet has time to prep and go out, post on social media a lot etc.
I don't know how she fits it all in tbh.
For the last few days, she's been out daily, whilst dealing with emergency calls till goodness knows when o'clock, yet has time to prep and go out, post on social media a lot etc.
I don't know how she fits it all in tbh.
Fieldlife
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Afraid my family still argues in close proximity and my sister and I are over 40, and so do many people's families if when spending time in close proximity over Christmas is anything to go by.
AFAIK SV's parents help her extensively with looking after the horses. I think her mum does most of the mucking out etc. I am not surprised there is arguing, if my husband or parents looked after my horses, would be some tricky discussions!
Again this is not uncommon on many livery yards across UK. I dont like it but many of the posters here have their horses on individual turnout is small patches of grass, with little enrichment. [Not all and please dont anyone start a discussion on how you individually do differently]. It is still very common to have horses stabled part of day or night, and turned out individually daytime in a fairly small flat bare grass space. SV's fields do also have shelters and hay put out, which is better than the livery yards with limited grazing and forbidding hay in fields.
And before anyone starts down the line I am a sycophant or supporter of SV, I am not and I have made a number of disagreeing comments. But I dont like incorrect statements e.g. saddles not being since adjusted and changed or that her horses have less freedom in field than is common etc.
cauda equina
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It might be common on livery yards, but she has got her own place so you would hope she'd be able to give her horses a more natural life
meleeka
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I doubt most people on yards get a choice though. Neither do they think it's the gold standard on how to keep a horse. SV thinks her horses live the perfect life. She just doesn't think horses need to just be horses sometimes. That's the difference here.
With regard to the saddles not fitting. She acknowledged this ages ago, while telling her followers that her horses were just sharp, competition horses and there was definitely nothing wrong. Just because you know your saddle doesn't fit, it doesn't suddenly make it not cause pain.
PurpleSpots
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I haven't seen a post about saddles being fitted and swopped around - is there a link to this please?
All I have seen is a while ago SV stating that her saddles are not the best fit, or words to that effect.
All I have seen is a while ago SV stating that her saddles are not the best fit, or words to that effect.
Fieldlife
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You'd have to look back., I remember a post on which saddles fit who, and how much she likes the brand and the saddle fitter having been out and sorted everyone out. I think she had someone come out for day and do all horses all saddles. In last 3 months. Best guess is maybe 2 months ago. Post had a picture of horse in a branded saddle, I think. I'd say maybe 6-8 weeks after the post mentioning there were saddle fit issues.
BronsonNutter
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I was very confused as to how she’d diagnosed peritonitis without a peritoneal tap, let alone bloodwork, and fixed it on yard with a single dose of antibiotic and no follow up doses.
Probably had a virus!
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Not slacking multitasking
meleeka
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SV has today posted about how she feels when putting a horse to sleep, as she did this morning. Some poor horse owner had had to make the decision and SV has still managed to make it all about her (complete with a sad face photo of herself and a teaser for her future book).
It might be just me, but I don't want to know how my vet feels, nor would I want it plastered all over FB that they were worried about it too, I just want them to turn up and do a professional and compassionate job. It's really not necessary to tell thousands of people that you are good at it, I'd hope that was a given!
It might be just me, but I don't want to know how my vet feels, nor would I want it plastered all over FB that they were worried about it too, I just want them to turn up and do a professional and compassionate job. It's really not necessary to tell thousands of people that you are good at it, I'd hope that was a given!Peglo
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Well I suppose if nothing else it makes me appreciate my own vets in a way I never thought I would.
It’s unsurprisingly a very self centred post and unthinking of what that client is going through.
It’s unsurprisingly a very self centred post and unthinking of what that client is going through.
IrishMilo
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Could you post the screenshot on here?SV has today posted about how she feels when putting a horse to sleep, as she did this morning. Some poor horse owner had had to make the decision and SV has still managed to make it all about her (complete with a sad face photo of herself and a teaser for her future book).
Apizz2019
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I've just read the post.SV has today posted about how she feels when putting a horse to sleep, as she did this morning. Some poor horse owner had had to make the decision and SV has still managed to make it all about her (complete with a sad face photo of herself and a teaser for her future book).
If this were any other vet, I'd go so far as to say it may be comforting to those who are faced with this situation, knowing their vet cares and how hard it is on them too, but this lady is the most arrogant, self serving, narcissist 'professional' I've ever had the misfortune to encounter, thankfully only via social media.
With this in mind, her post is not of comfort to me, and I doubt many others - it just screams of pity me and my sad face selfie, purely for likes and exposure.
She makes my teeth itch!
Katieg123
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And she was so against putting her own horse to sleep 
Peglo
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I’ve just looked at the terms and conditions of HHO and I think it’s ok to copy and paste. Correct me if I’m wrong. And I will edit.
*** An insight into the emotions involved with euthanasia, from a vet’s perspective ***
I honestly don’t know how any other vet feels/thinks, but whilst lying wide awake in bed last night, I thought I’d try and give a bit of an insight into how I think and feel before, during and after, a euthanasia.
It’s 11.30pm and I’ve just climbed into bed. I’m always tired, but it’s one of those days when I’ve gone past the tiredness. Watching a psychological thriller whilst in the bath probably hasn’t helped.
My first call tomorrow is a euthanasia. Having not done one for over 4 months, this is number six in the past fortnight. Another planned one. A lovely elderly horse with an incurable condition that is causing her daily pain. We discovered it less than a week ago. There is no cure. The selfless owners didn’t want to prolong the inevitable, when it was found that pain relief made no difference.
The planned ones are the hardest. I know the owners, the horses, and the yard lay out. The evening before, I mentally plan the procedure; where my car will be parked; exactly where we will perform the procedure; the likely amount of sedation and lethal injection we will use. Sixteen years as a vet, and it’s still the procedure I take the most time planning. It’s the one procedure that really must not, and cannot, go wrong. The very final few minutes on this earth must be calm and quiet. I pride myself on my quiet and quick euthanasias. Every single horse is sedated, regardless of whether they are flat on the ground or standing. Every single horse has a catheter quickly placed into their vein, even if they are down. Placing a catheter takes no longer than placing a needle, and guarantees access to the vein should the horse move, or on the rare occasion that a top up is required once down. Speed of injection is key. A calm environment is essential.
I’ve booked for the body to be collected for cremation. Access is difficult tomorrow, so I’ve planned that with the owner in advance; we don’t want hassle on the day. Sleep never comes easily the night before one of these, so I’ve turned my electric blanket on tonight to try and help. I’ll wake up early tomorrow, with a little feeling of dread. The colics and broken legs are “easy” in comparison; there’s no choice and there’s a rapidly ticking clock. No chance to plan and think. The planned ones are so very hard for the owners, so I know they won’t be sleeping at all tonight.
I have written the other parts to this just now, as I’m having a 10 minute break having done the procedure. But for now, I’m going to keep them for my book, which I have finally decided to write.
Photo of me on my break right now. Don’t really feel like smiling as it’s never a good feeling. This post is absolutely not for sympathy, as this is part of my job; it’s just to share some “behind the scenes” and bring vets and owners that little bit closer.
Apizz2019
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I have a vet friend who I've known for years, she's put hundreds of horses to sleep over the years and she told me it never gets easier.
She told me about a case about 20 years ago that still traumatises her, where the owner had pumped his horse full of goodness knows what and had a pony party before the horse departed, only for my friend to find when the time came to pts, the horse appeared to be off its face on whatever the owner had fed it.
The horse wasn't its usual calm self and it was a very traumatic euthanasia, for her and the horse. She was thankful the owner wasn't there to witness it as he didn't want to be there at the end.
I've no doubt most vets find it as traumatic as we do, sometimes more depending on the circumstances.
Peglo
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Oh I’m sure. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for vets. But my vets were so dignified and supportive when mine were PTS, they really were a blessing at such a hard time. I couldn’t imagine reading the above about my horses last day.
IrishMilo
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I'm surprised the post didn't finish with 'If you'd like to book a euthanasia with me, I'm doing a holiday discount...'
Ifmpw
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This post in isolation actually makes me quite like her
JFTDWS
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All I can say is, given her erroneous correction of a previous poster, I hope she’s planning to employ a good proof reader.
And it’s not a book I would be buying.
And it’s not a book I would be buying.
PurpleSpots
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As an owner, you already feel enough guilt about doing 'the right thing'.
You already feel the need for forgiveness for what you're doing/have done, even though it's 'the right thing'.
You don't need the one main person who can give you that feeling of forgiveness to make you feel guilty for making them suffer emotionally too. You don't need the focal point to be how the vet feels. Of COURSE that is important, but the owner's focal point should be the horse and then themselves, with others on the close periphery. Afterwards, the client should be able to grieve, not feel guilty for ruining someone else's day.
A vet is a person, but they are there to do a professional job and take the extra emotional guilt away from their client. Not make it about them because they cannot be selfless. Don't feel able to cope doing euthanasias? Don't be a vet in general practice. That SV has no professionally-based emotional support is evident - THAT is where her comfort for things like this should come from, and from close friends, not from her clients or members of the public or the internet at large.
Every post like this simply screams to me that she is not coping emotionally with life and has no appropriate support system in place.
'I honestly don’t know how any other vet feels/thinks'. Well maybe you should reach out to some for support then - that would help you alot. If only you didn't think you were above everyone else.
ETA: I have always apologised when asking for, before and after having a horse put down. Of COURSE the vet is important. But they are not the MOST important. Like others, I can't believe anyone would use someone else's terrible day as a way to gain likes and responses for themselves. SV I think you really need to reach out to your professional body for support. It's not fair to guilt trip others into feeling sorry for you. It's really emotionally unhealthy because it is not solving your problem. It's actually making your problem feel more like a positive thing, and that will make it worse.
You already feel the need for forgiveness for what you're doing/have done, even though it's 'the right thing'.
You don't need the one main person who can give you that feeling of forgiveness to make you feel guilty for making them suffer emotionally too. You don't need the focal point to be how the vet feels. Of COURSE that is important, but the owner's focal point should be the horse and then themselves, with others on the close periphery. Afterwards, the client should be able to grieve, not feel guilty for ruining someone else's day.
A vet is a person, but they are there to do a professional job and take the extra emotional guilt away from their client. Not make it about them because they cannot be selfless. Don't feel able to cope doing euthanasias? Don't be a vet in general practice. That SV has no professionally-based emotional support is evident - THAT is where her comfort for things like this should come from, and from close friends, not from her clients or members of the public or the internet at large.
Every post like this simply screams to me that she is not coping emotionally with life and has no appropriate support system in place.
'I honestly don’t know how any other vet feels/thinks'. Well maybe you should reach out to some for support then - that would help you alot. If only you didn't think you were above everyone else.
ETA: I have always apologised when asking for, before and after having a horse put down. Of COURSE the vet is important. But they are not the MOST important. Like others, I can't believe anyone would use someone else's terrible day as a way to gain likes and responses for themselves. SV I think you really need to reach out to your professional body for support. It's not fair to guilt trip others into feeling sorry for you. It's really emotionally unhealthy because it is not solving your problem. It's actually making your problem feel more like a positive thing, and that will make it worse.
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meleeka
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It actually looks better to me now, without the sad face photo.
dorsetladette
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Behind the scenes!!! she thinks she's a Hollywood Movie Star!
In isolation (and if the final 2 lines were omitted) that isn't a terrible post. I wouldn't want to read about my horses last moments on FB the very same day. Nor do the general public need to hear she has booked for him/her to be cremated. It is more 'book' relevant I'd say.
Unfortunately the strong views she has already put out there about euthanasia are contradicting her points in this post. And with her own horse too.
In isolation (and if the final 2 lines were omitted) that isn't a terrible post. I wouldn't want to read about my horses last moments on FB the very same day. Nor do the general public need to hear she has booked for him/her to be cremated. It is more 'book' relevant I'd say.
Unfortunately the strong views she has already put out there about euthanasia are contradicting her points in this post. And with her own horse too.
JFTDWS
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There’s also no need to post specifically about an individual client’s situation. I hope she sought permission for that, at least.
Why not leave it a few weeks and post generally about how euthanasia affects her, without putting her guilt onto an individual client, and grief-vampiring their loss.
Why not leave it a few weeks and post generally about how euthanasia affects her, without putting her guilt onto an individual client, and grief-vampiring their loss.
Ample Prosecco
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I as just about to write exactly that. Yes a piece about the emotional impact of euthanasia on vets. But it is grossly inappopriate to link it to a specific horse, identifiable by the owner.
SEL
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My vets have always been incredible and I sent a thank you note to each of the horse vets who had to support me in 2022 (it was a bad year)Oh I’m sure. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for vets. But my vets were so dignified and supportive when mine were PTS, they really were a blessing at such a hard time. I couldn’t imagine reading the above about my horses last day.
Putting to sleep the horse in my avatar when he was a practice favourite was heart breaking and because he was nervous of vets but really liked the young vet I had to ask for her. I felt awful asking for her but she just made the whole process calm and controlled and as easy as it can ever be. I don't underestimate how hard it is for them and I said that in the card I wrote (& the Xmas chocolates) but I would have been in absolute pieces if she'd written about it on FB.