how much can he happily carry?

[fizz-tally]

16.2hh id x tb,when holding a bit more weight in the summer looks like a nice middleweight hunter.

how much do we think he could carry?

it would be a good,well balanced rider

 

[samsaccount]

Not too sure but my guess would be around 17 stone maybe a bit more? But I think horses can carry a lot more if the rider is balanced.

 

[Pidge]

Pidge is 16.3hh IDxTB and carries me with no problem whatsoever, in fact sometimes he doesn't even seem to notice I'm there especially when jumping

I'm 5'6" and a size 16, don't know how heavy I am as I never get on the scales

 

[Tia]

I think this is a poorly put together horse and because of that I wouldn't be happy putting too heavy a rider on it's back to be honest, regardless of whether they were well balanced or not. I would probably put a cut-off at somewhere around 11 or 12 stone.

 

[fizz-tally]

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I think this is a poorly put together horse and because of that I wouldn't be happy putting too heavy a rider on it's back to be honest, regardless of whether they were well balanced or not. I would probably put a cut-off at somewhere around 11 or 12 stone.

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would you care to explane how he is poorly put together?

it is not the best pic of him to be honest

 

[Tia]

His mishapen back, his weak neck and his dropped hind fetlocks would raise alarm bells with me.

 

[fizz-tally]

yes he has dropped fetlocks but there is nothing wrong with his back & weak neck is because hes been out of work for a year

 

[Tia]

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it is not the best pic of him to be honest


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I realise that but if you compare this horse with Sue1's horse I think you will see there is a big difference between the two. Sue's horse should be good for a top weight of at least 17 or 18 stone I would think, as he is such a nicely muscled and put together horse.

 

[kayleigh_and_rocky]

I have to agree with tia i wouldnt want to put a heavy rider on him until he had much much more muscle built up along his back and neck

 

[fizz-tally]

i know he needs muscle/top line etc etc but he doesnt hold weight in the winter

this pic was a few months ago

i think he is better covered in this pic so looks better

 

[Tia]

Whatever - you asked for opinions and I am just saying what I see - the reason for poor condition is not relevant; the fact that he isn't conditioned, is. What this horse may be capable of carrying once he is muscled up and toned may be different from what he is capable of carrying now - I thought that was what you were asking? What he could carry now and not in a years time?

 

[Blizzard]

Sue1 your horse is absolutely gorgeous I want him!!

 

[fizz-tally]

thank you
i asked what he could carry not what you think off him.

 

[Blizzard]

hoo_ya I would say about 12 stones?

 

[Pidge]

Thank you Tia for the nice comments on Pidge

My only concern with Pidge is he is very long, he takes a 7' rug

 

[fizz-tally]

thank you

 

[GTs]

I do not agree with Tia - it is always tough to look at horses in the winter, especially when comparing it to a horse turned out for show. The flaw I noticed was how straight he was in the back legs, and his stance makes his front legs difficult to comment on.

But I think his conformation is a mute point - there are many horses with perfect conformation who have problems, and many horses with poor conformation who never take a lame step. If he has had no problems then the real questions is what is the rider going to do because eventing is going to require less weight then plodding around the countryside.

 

[Blizzard]

7ft rug! Wow he is a big lad, beautiful though, i cant get over that lovely coat. he looks a million dollars!

hoo_ya in the 2nd pic he does look better, I think he takes more from his TB side than his ID. I know some horses look terrible in winter and lose everythign they had in the summer, and if he has been out of work for so long then he is bound to have lost muscle.

Do you need him to carry a large weight?

 

[fizz-tally]

gt thank you very much, he will be hacking & the odd sjing class, thats it

he would be carrying 15 stone for maybe about 2 weeks max for 30 mins walk/trot while i am away

 

[Pidge]

You wouldn't have when I first got him - under 450kg

But a year and a half later on and a healthy 600kg

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[Blizzard]

If its short term and light exercise then Im sure he would be ok, it depends on the horse I think, and how unfit he is, is he tired after 30mins walking?

Personally, and Im in your situation, buying a horse in poor condition that has been out of work for half a year, I would rather just see him walked out in hand or lunged if it was my boy, but mine has lost a lot more muscle than yours.

 

[Blizzard]

What a transformation sue!

 

[Pidge]

Thanks, his coat is still like that now even after being clipped - all hail TopSpec!
Hoo_Ya if your horse loses condition in the winter have you tried him on TopSpec? Fab IMO.

 

[fizz-tally]

hes been back in work for 4 months but the last few weeks hes dropped alot of weight,its been really cold on & off & he gets stressed very easily.

he doesnt get tired at all,i had been hacking him for over a hour a day 5 days a week & he gets very forward.

hoping that we will see a change in him once we change him to the soaked oat diet

 

[Tia]

Oh my! What an amazing transformation - you have done a truly wonderful job - he looks terrific now Sue.

 

[fizz-tally]

he wouldnt eat it sue,we tried.

he can be very fussy about what he eats

 

[GTs]

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gt thank you very much, he will be hacking & the odd sjing class, thats it

he would be carrying 15 stone for maybe about 2 weeks max for 30 mins walk/trot while i am away

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That is nothing - my penis weighs that much and my horses are always smaller. I say if he is healthy go for it.

 

[fizz-tally]

oh dear GT you do make me laugh

thanks lots though

 

[icemaiden113]

He looks a cracking horse and i think he should carry anything up to 17/18 stone! I have a TB here 17hh whos owner weighs in at 16/17! Carries him hunting all day even tho he ain't fit! They are stronger animals than you think!

 

[fizz-tally]

thank you

& before ANYONE says it,no i dont just want the "your horse is lovely " posts.

just dont see the need to rip someones much loved horse to bits without knowing all the facts