Depends on the horse and what ground work (if any) it has done prior to being asked to back it. I also don't think you can put time limits on young horses. Is someone asking you to 'break' their horse then?
I was gonna charge £10 hr per ridden horse but that was few yrs ago now,breaking is a risky business so it needs to be reflected in your price,i would go for £9 - £10 hr
Right I'm going to stop beating round the bush and say good luck if you have found someone prepared to pay you to back their pony and even more good luck vibes being sent to the poor pony itself.
Right I'm going to stop beating round the bush and say good luck if you have found someone prepared to pay you to back their pony and even more good luck vibes being sent to the poor pony itself.
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well, that gives us free rein to 'not beat around the bush' either.
Do you know Sophie? Ie personally? Have you met her??
If not, then what you just posted was below the belt and quite frankly downright nasty and IMHO incredibly bitchy and uncalled for.
It's people like you that give this forum a bad name. If you havent anything constructive to say then why bother??
Reading what Sophie has written I would assume that this person knows and trusts her, and either way.... what the F has it to do with you?? Unless all of a sudden you're some expert we should all be looking up to??
Are you????
Geez...
Right I'm going to stop beating round the bush and say good luck if you have found someone prepared to pay you to back their pony and even more good luck vibes being sent to the poor pony itself.
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Ouch.... bit harsh did you think before posting that?!? If you have nothing constructive to say then why post? Plain bitchy IMO.....
Sophie sorry I have no idea good luck though, I hate youngsters
No I don't 'know' Sophie, but have seen some of her more eyebrow raising posts and not forgetting the classic pic of her cantering round with an upside down Pelham in the horses mouth. I have no doubt she could 'break' a horse..............BREAK being the operative word!!! However from what I have seen of her post, I wouldn't trust her to back a rocking horse, let alone pay her to do so.
Get off your high horse, grow-up and stop swearing. Do you know her by the way?
P.S. I have never claimed to be an expert, but look up to me if you wish (once you climb off your high horse obviously).
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Where did that come from??? And why exactly???
firstly, I wasnt aware that the letter F was a swear word, if it is then I'd better warn my daughter's day nursery
what you have 'seen'. Hmmm.... I assume that is on a forum, on the internet, not in RL. That's a good basis on which to make an assumption on someone
I think you'll find, sweetie, I am not the one here who appears to be on the 'high horse'. And I am grown up enough to realise that in the world of equestrianism (sorry for using big words... it means 'things to do with horses') none of us are experts.
Quite frankly I would rather handwash my family's dirty undies and sniff them to make sure they're fresh than take the time andeffort to look up some random 'chip on her shoulder, problem with the world' girl on an internet forum.
When I have horses in I charge £140 a week, but in reality this just covers the work done with them not much else as feed and eveyhting else gets included, so doesnt really make much money!
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Where did that come from??? And why exactly???
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Sophie has repeatedly given people on this forum reason to believe she is lacking in general horse experience, let alone taking in a horse for breaking. Piebald's response was a bit harsh but I'm sure it sums up many people's initial reaction to reading this.
I have broken several horses in over the past couple of years, one of which was Bear who was broken in from start to finish in 4 weeks.
He has never had any problems.
I broke my welsh A in when I was 15.
I helped Break in a 17hh hunter x when I was 15 too.
Thats just half of the them.
Im not looking to charge too much.
Unless you know me then what F***ing right do you have to say those things?
Sheesh some people are so pathetic.
Just because I had never used a pelham before!
I had always used snaffles.
1 of the ponies I broke in last year is now doing brilliantly with a 9 year old girl. Infact she was at the show last weekend, and came 3rd out of 13 ponies in the 1st ridden class!
So F***ing get a life!
Why not just answer the bloody question! You sad bunch of people!!!
Actually I was trying to be polite and dont believe I have mentioned anything about pelhams
I have helped back and break horses too, but wouldnt consider myself a chargable asset as I just dont know enough.... but if you do.... then thats a different matter
Hoping your rather rude post was not directed specifically at me, when I was just replying in an honest and not particularly rude fashion.
Back to the original question, you have two choices. One is to charge a set amount regardless of the time it takes. The other is to charge per hour. If charging per hour, about £10?
Personally i would charge around £20-30 a hour. Depends on the horse and the nature really.
In no dig at you, i do believe that it takes an experienced person to do such a thing, if it was my baby i was sending away i would want to make sure they were complete professionals.
If you are going to charge you will need a freelance trainers insurance and care, custody and control. This costs from around £300pa. There is no way I would undertake starting a pony without this as any problems could leave you open to being sued.
If you are going to charge for this service, are you prepared to take responsibility for any problems that occur when breaking this horse? Let me explain a little more clearly - by charging for your time and offering a particular service in return, you are stating that you are capable and experienced enough to deal with pretty much every eventuality that occurs. If the horse turns out less then perfect at the end (i am not saying it will or not - just theoretical), say for example it broncs or bolts everytime someone gets on board, then you could be held responsible for this and therefore responsible for the cost of putting it right.
I know it always sounds great doing friends a favour - but that always ends up so much more sour if it goes wrong.
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firstly, I wasnt aware that the letter F was a swear word, if it is then I'd better warn my daughter's day nursery
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NO but how you used it you didn't mean the letter F, now did you.
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what you have 'seen'. Hmmm.... I assume that is on a forum, on the internet, not in RL. That's a good basis on which to make an assumption on someone
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I think I quite clearly stated this above. It was posts and pics that Sophie posted on here. I very much doubt anyone would try to make themselves look incapable. So given that several of Sophies posts have done just that, on can only assume that she is rather lacking in experience.
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I think you'll find, sweetie, I am not the one here who appears to be on the 'high horse'. And I am grown up enough to realise that in the world of equestrianism (sorry for using big words... it means 'things to do with horses') none of us are experts.
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a)Don't call me sweetie.
b)Really?
c)Really? you sound about 12.
d)I never said I was.
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Quite frankly I would rather handwash my family's dirty undies and sniff them to make sure they're fresh than take the time andeffort to look up some random 'chip on her shoulder, problem with the world' girl on an internet forum.
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What you do with your washing darling is up to you. No you've lost me on the last bit.
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Where did that come from??? And why exactly???
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Sophie has repeatedly given people on this forum reason to believe she is lacking in general horse experience, let alone taking in a horse for breaking. Piebald's response was a bit harsh but I'm sure it sums up many people's initial reaction to reading this.
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Couldn't have replied better myself. Yep possibly more blunt than others would have put it, but I get soooo bored sugar coating comments.
Its all well and good being honest but its pathetic people like you that dwell on sh1t from the past!
I asked a question and expected responses RE the question, not snide childish comments!
You dont know ME ''deary''!!!
So I don't expect answers about total random shite !!!