How NOT to ride a young horse forward.

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Basically Tic Toc was bought with the intention of the owners friend getting him going with the daughter eventing him. He did not grow enough & the friend got too busy to do anything with him. He was long-reined, lunged etc before being backed & very little else. He was sold because he was costing the owner money & achieving very little. The friend was responsible for selling him. He went for peanuts hence ending up with monkeys! He is by Brief Encounter & his 1/2 brother by Jumbo is eventing at Int. The market is so cr@p that people have to cut their losses. The owner was made aware of this video & as soon as he knew it was Tic Toc he was on the phone to the morons arranging to get him back. He would rather see him PTS then end up with low lives like these.
 
Good grief! I watched the video and it made me so angry. The horse looks quite sweet and could be doing a lot worse considering the bashing hes taking! I would like this guy name and shamed.. and the videor!

What a joke and what poor horsemanship!

Lets hope this little one gets home safe and sound!
 
Exactly, magic104.
It's an awful situation and i'm very glad the horse is away from them. Looks a lovely youngster, not a bad one at all. Just ended up in a crap situation through no fault of his own OR the former owner's... and he was totally shocked and has done everything he can to remedy the situation asap.
We need a shortage of horses in this country ffs. :( :( :(
 
glad the horse is safe :)


what did the numpty dealers have to say?? im sure they are aware how little they are thought of now after all the viral video sharing!?
 
kerilli said:
Exactly, magic104.
It's an awful situation and i'm very glad the horse is away from them. Looks a lovely youngster, not a bad one at all. Just ended up in a crap situation through no fault of his own OR the former owner's... and he was totally shocked and has done everything he can to remedy the situation asap.
We need a shortage of horses in this country ffs. :( :( :(
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It's sad as sounded a v sweet horse. :(
 
kerilli said:
Are you serious? Watch the horse. I counted, and I think that AT LEAST 6 times (more, at my count) he stopped bucking, but the rider hit him hard again and set him off again. And those aren't the bucks of a serious bronc'er, he's not leaping and twisting. I'd lay a LOT of money that a decent sympathetic rider using their LEGS not a whip could have had him going forward nicely in 2 minutes.
Poor horse. Fix the problem? You must be joking. :( :( I am not against punishing a flipping naughty horse if it's being downright evil for no reason (after all the usual checks etc) but this one... no way did it deserve being hit that hard, that frequently. Disgusting.
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Agreed,^^^^ the fact that the onlooker states tic tock's got a buck makes me think its possibly first time under saddle, :(:(what a truly awful experience that will no doubt be the start of the end for what looks to be a fairly decent wee horse, i'd have to wonder if this is the way they introduce the rider, is the background work even done ??, if started properly he possibly wouldnt have bucked at all. Most of the bucks were in retaliation to the attacks on him poor soul :mad:Personally i wouldnt let them near a rocking horse, shower of ......
Just read he's away from them hurrah, i feel so sorry for him and the owners who sent him there having read the background
 
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Shocked, disgusted and mad.

There was another video doing the rounds a few days ago of a bucking yongster over here. Now I'm not condoning that treatment but at least he wasn't being hit with the whip like these people were doing to this poor animal. I'd love to let them feel the sting of the whip as many times as this poor horse did.
 
Discusting. WHat is he actually trying to achieve? This is torment, not correcting behavour. The horse is doing absolutely nothing wrong. Was I the only one who was feeling uplifted when the guy got deposited? These people don't deserve to be graced with the presents of a horse. Poor creature.
 
Very sad indeed. Hope he isn't too set back by the awful experience :(

Name is ringing a bell now, wasn't he one of the Grafham Stud reduction lots?
 
What really upset me about that video is that the horse looks like a lovely and willing little chap. Why the hell is the rider just beating him? He actually stops bucking so they hit him again!

Can't believe some people are defending by saying we don't know the full story. Sorry but you can tell that's not a bad horse. The poor little sod is retaliating to being whacked. At no point does the rider try and ride him forward in a civilised manner. There is no excuse for that at all.
 
ihatework said:
Very sad indeed. Hope he isn't too set back by the awful experience :(

Name is ringing a bell now, wasn't he one of the Grafham Stud reduction lots?
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No but he was bought his breeder last year to go eventing but did not grow big enough for the person concerned. They in turn did not have the time anyway, so his owner was put in a difficult situation, carry on paying for a horse doing nothing or cut his losses & sell. It was the connections who sold him to these so called dealers!
 
amymay said:
Maybe they'd like to post on here the reasons for beating this poor animal in the way they did. And how they justify starting youngsters like that......
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Wouldn't hold your breath! I can't think how on earth anyone with half a brain cell could even think its excusable. Hopefully the relevant authorities catch up with them soon enough.
 
Yep I agree sending if sending forum feed back gets this thread pulled it will just come back again!! You can't silence the truth especially when you have handed people the proof and smoking gun!!
 
magic104 said:
Tough, so what, they were stupid enough to post the video in the first place. Nothing has been said that is not fact & you most certaintly can not deny what is clearly seen as abuse of a very young horse.
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Woah! Hold on one minute! I've said the video is disgusting, I was just alerting people they are here and saying I wouldn't be suprised if they get it pulled. Not sure on what grounds as surely its not slanderous when its plain to see what's happening.
 
tashy said:
Woah! Hold on one minute! I've said the video is disgusting, I was just alerting people they are here and saying I wouldn't be suprised if they get it pulled. Not sure on what grounds as surely its not slanderous when its plain to see what's happening.
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Magic wasn't having a go at you Tashy.
 
This is just really really sad. I'm not angry about it because I don't find it shocking, I see more and more of this atrocious attitude and type of behaviour all the time. There are thousands of so called professionals and amateurs literally destroying horses up and down the country through willful ignorance and a total disregard for the animal. What it comes down to is there are just too many horses, the market is stagnant and that means even nice well bred animals end up with idiots like these. A friend of mine bought a nice show quality Welsh pony for £4.50 a few weeks ago. The breeder swapped it for paying off a milk bill. Anyone who is breeding has a share in the responsibility of what is happening to these animals, there isn't anywhere decent for them to end up and it's tragic.
 
tashy said:
Woah! Hold on one minute! I've said the video is disgusting, I was just alerting people they are here and saying I wouldn't be suprised if they get it pulled. Not sure on what grounds as surely its not slanderous when its plain to see what's happening.
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Tahsy not personal to you. I hope H&H see that it is their hard luck it has made such a stir. Who after all was stupid enough to put it up in the first place.
 
Shocks me the way some people on this and other threads can say 'dont know whats gone on , how bad horse behaves etc'. There is NEVER an excuse to ride a horse like that . END OF!
 
The worst bit is the video doesnt suprise me coming from them :( poor young horse, he looks an absolute sweety shame he didnt manage to get the sh!!t on top under his feet when he had him off. I'm suprised any one buys horses from them, a little google and you can find out all sorts.
 
I saw this vid this morning as I know the girl who saved the video they published on you tube and re uploaded it when they deleted it.

(You also can recognise their school etc from the vid as the one on their website....)
 
It is them!! Its their groom, their school god how can they be so brazen as to deny it! It was on THEIR YT along with horses they are selling (proof on the website which has their name on it!)

Yes good compromise on HHO but just because they are dealers doesn't mean they can silence people.

And the fact that the owners are taking the horse back from those dealers!! How can they deny all that evidence?
 
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