Hunt coming through yard

At the end of the day its up to each horse owner to decide whats best for their horse in their situation. One might think another is being OTT but if it stops their horse gett6injured then thats just fine. I don't like the hunts. I've heard first hand the underhand things that go on and please don't tell me they don't, they do. Whilst I would never go out and sabotage a hunt I have absolutely no time for them. Just do what you think will keep your horse safe .
 
I would caution against a V grill as I had bad situation with one. I had a 16.3 hh NH bred youngster try and jump out through one during a massive thunderstorm. This was not the sort of grill you buy at the local tack shop but an extremely heavy, grill with extra thick bars. He obviously got stuck trying to jump out as it was bent back at a right angle to the door. It didn’t bend straight but slightly to the right which resulted in me not being able to open the door. I tried getting it off but the angle and weight meant it was impossible for me. I had to get the handyman in and even he struggled. The horse had lots of bruising and swelling and deep cuts but no lasting affects. I wish I had taken a photo but it was in the days before camera phones.
 
Sandstone1 said:
One is one too many. The cat could be a well loved companion animal. Disgusting what the hunt gets away with.
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smolmaus said:
I don't think anyone would advise not taking steps for sensible risk management with domestic dogs and other animals either. Plenty of dogs wear muzzles when out and plenty of people fence their gardens to keep cats in or out so they're not at risk of being killed by a high prey drive dog.

"Keep your cats in when the hunt is on" is just sensible risk management.

ETA: Sandstone has already posted what I wanted to add, that this is in the name of a sport that affects a lot of people who have no interest in said sport is where the difference lies and could be why there is some resentment.
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Agree with this
 
Over the years I have found mine to be better outside with a view than inside worrying about the excited horses moving about outside.

They are outside for bonfire night too after a stable fire incident when I was a teen.
 
anti weave v grills are ok for some but my stallion would rear and put both his front hooves in the v part , i had to shove him back in the stable twice, but he`s a hardy beast so no harm, a grill complete is safer
 
To be honest from this thread it seems like most people’s objections to the hunt comes from the huge amount of inconvenience created by a very small minority sport that most of us don’t take part in. It’s very disruptive when you’ve got to keep horses in and deal with upset and panicking animals whilst the hunt charge over your land, particularly if you rent and don’t get a say if you want them there or not. They used to tear up our local hacking at my old yard and block lots of the lanes. It doesn’t help the image of the sport at all.
 
L&M said:
Am I the only one that finds that it is sad to see these reactions on a forum created by the 'Horse and Hound' magazine - clue is in the name?

It seems most posters would rather it was just 'Horse'.........seems like hunting folk are the 'public enemy number 1' these days.
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I have no huge issue with hunting, I have a young horse I will be hunting in spring. What I DO have an issue with is the disregard of the hunt towards others at times and the hassle/injury it causes. When we hunted as a kid it was basic politeness not to clatter past yards with horses, we were told to be respectful. Same as with respecting landowners fencing etc. Some hunts are their own worst enemies at times for bad PR.
 
L&M said:
Am I the only one that finds that it is sad to see these reactions on a forum created by the 'Horse and Hound' magazine - clue is in the name?

It seems most posters would rather it was just 'Horse'.........seems like hunting folk are the 'public enemy number 1' these days.
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On this forum hunts are judged for their actions by people who have seen and experienced those actions. I have myself sat on a horse in a field of fifty or sixty riders and waited for 20 or more minutes while yard staff/owners desperately tried to catch and calm two horses going wild in a paddock which we were passing, who hadn't been warned we were going to use that path. I've had a farmer shout at me because he had not given the hunt permission to jump the hedge I had just followed the field master over. I've heard a Master told that the field should not be spread out across a hay crop and tell the person informing him that it was too late now and shrug.

If hunts are criticised for their actions, they have nobody but themselves to blame, for taking those actions.
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L&M said:
Am I the only one that finds that it is sad to see these reactions on a forum created by the 'Horse and Hound' magazine (clue is in the name)?

It seems most posters would rather it was just 'Horse', and hunting folk are the 'public enemy number 1' these days........
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No I think it's sad that many people are wary/scared of hunts because of the bad experiences they have had. And that includes people who have hunted before, not just people who have experienced illegal trespass on their lands, livestock attacked, verbal abuse and so on.

Sorry but I think you're feeling sad about the wrong thing here.
 
L&M said:
'Horse and Hound' magazine (clue is in the name)?
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I've looked it up and the title of the magazine originated in 1884. A lot has changed since then, including the owning of horses for leisure purposes, the population (70m instead of 8m) and the ending of the assumed right of landed gentry to ride rough shod over land which is not in their ownership and sensibilities of people who are not their serfs.

Some hunts don't appear to be as aware of those changes as others!
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Sandstone1 said:
That should maybe tell you something?
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Ok - then can you explain to me why so many people on this forum that are against hunting/have a grievance with a certain hunt, continue to support a publication that firstly promotes hunting, and secondly provides weekly hunting reports throughout the season?

Not wanting to provoke an argument - a genuine question.......
 
L&M said:
Ok - then can you explain to me why so many people on this forum that are against hunting/have a grievance with a certain hunt, continue to support a publication that firstly promotes hunting, and secondly provides weekly hunting reports throughout the season?

Not wanting to provoke an argument - a genuine question.......
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Because it has a lively and active forum where you can get great information. It could be called Horse & Hedgehog and I'd still use it for the info I get from fellow forum users. The magazine also covers other competitions etc, so I assume non hunt people read it.
 
I use the forum because I like the forum. I don't get the mag and I only occasionally read the online articles (usually if they have been linked to on the forum and the topic is something that I am interested in).

ETA - Horse and Hedgehog sounds nice. :D :D :D I'd be happy if the name was changed to that (I know it was a joke suggestion ;)).
 
palo1 said:
Cats are at far greater risk of attack from a domestic dog than from hounds. The Cats Protection League has identified at the very least 270 cases of dogs attacking cats in 5 years (and many, many more never reported). https://www.cats.org.uk/media/7042/tim-dangerous-dogs.pdf. 80% of those attacks were fatal and those are just reported cases; it is impossible to know how many cats are killed by domestic dogs though it is certainly a recognised risk from sighthound and other dog re-homing organisations who recommend that dogs are muzzled for a period of time at least after re-homing. Hounds have certainly killed 3 cats in the last 10 years (Moppett in 2011, Spider in December 2021 and Mini in January 2021). The statistics between domestic dogs and hounds simply do not compare although any death of a cat due to dog or hound attack is awful and cats and their owners deserve protection in law which they currently do not have.
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I don’t disagree, in a way. The risk to a random cat on a random day is far greater from a pet dog than from a hound. But proportionally, the number of cats killed by hounds is far greater? Compared to pet dogs there are so few foxhounds, and millions of dogs, and yet there have been more than than one recent instance of hounds killing a cat. Therefore on a day when the hunt is passing through, surely the risk is far greater from the hounds, and shutting cats inside is very pertinent?
 
L&M said:
Ok - then can you explain to me why so many people on this forum that are against hunting/have a grievance with a certain hunt, continue to support a publication that firstly promotes hunting, and secondly provides weekly hunting reports throughout the season?

Not wanting to provoke an argument - a genuine question.......
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See the above replies! I think most people use this forum in spite of it being called horse and hound not because! It has a lot of experienced horse and dog people.
 
Mrs Jingle said:
I used to leave out until one rather overly ambitious horse young horse of mine cleared a VERY big hedge line and apparently followed the hunt for several miles until a kind person bought him home again. I didn't even know he had gone missing, I am told his jumping was awe inspiring that morning lol! Do close the top door though I have even seen someone else's horse climb over the door and away!:oops:
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Jeez that sounds really frightening but glad someone was able to catch him that other horse were they able to get caught to
 
L&M said:
Ok - then can you explain to me why so many people on this forum that are against hunting/have a grievance with a certain hunt, continue to support a publication that firstly promotes hunting, and secondly provides weekly hunting reports throughout the season?

Not wanting to provoke an argument - a genuine question.......
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I've got to say I'm kind of with you here.
If there was a forum called 'horse and matador' in which, there was a bullfighting section I bet it would have no members, just a tirade of abuse.

I never normally post on these threads and I've noticed many other hunt supporters, who are very active in other areas of the forum, avoid these discussions too.
I guess hunting is one of those issues where there is no middle ground.

At the same time I have to say there are more less experienced owners on H&H than there ever used to be. Not a criticism as we all started somewhere but just an observation, which also fits with the general trend and may have something to do with the anti-hunt vibe. I totally accept that you can be a horse owner of 50 + years and disagree with hunting but I would bet that overall there is more antagonism towards hunting in the newer generation of horse owners.

II still love the forum but it does have a very different feel compared to say 10 years ago.
 
Ok, plan in place.

Horses in, with grills if we can fit them on the weekend, otherwise I’m going to make something to convince Milagra she can’t jump. I’ve only seen Mimosa leave the ground a handful of time and she’s never looked like she’s a natural jumper ? I am going to make an impressive snack bar for them to distract them.

Husband, groom and I will be on hand. Music for yard sorted - we have Sonos Move speakers. I can’t decide whether to go with 80’s rock to drown out noise, or something like Brahms - nice and relaxing.

Hunt informed not to come onto yard but will be in fields around us - it’s unavoidable, it is important to the landowner to support the hunt. There are fewer and fewer places to ride so he really wants his land to be a place where they are welcome.

I’m going to put a sign up at the beginning of our driveway and at the field gate to the yard to say “Foot traffic only beyond this point. Riders, if you need to cross, use the track around the field.” and I’m going to open all the gates between the fields to make it the easiest route.
 
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