Husky/Wolf/Inuit Hybrids....

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Isnt the BI just a spin off from the NI due to arguing factions? Didnt the BI introduce CWD into their breeding?

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BI's are a totally seperate breed now, a group of people left as they could see the NI was going to become an unhealthy dog and also did not see eye to eye with Mrs Kelham.
 
I have 7 siberian huskies, all worked in harness, and a collie (need to have one 'normal' dog that can be let off the lead!). The collie works in harness with the huskies.
 
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I have 7 siberian huskies, all worked in harness, and a collie (need to have one 'normal' dog that can be let off the lead!). The collie works in harness with the huskies.

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Someone I know has a loopy labrador they work in harness with the huskies!
 
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Thanks.

They have got CWD in them though?

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I think you're getting confused with Tamaskans.

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No i dont think so, and if your sig is one of your BI's then it certainly isnt a cross of the breeds used for the NI, I would stake money on CWD or possibly (but I dont think so) Sarloos being in there, those markings are deffo CWD
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those markings are deffo CWD
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Wrong, I don't know what makes you an expert but there is zero CWD in that bitch
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Funny that wolf experts and authorities cannot determine what contains wolf and what doesn't yet you seem to know, perhaps the council should employ you
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Good lookalike though isn't she
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Two siberians and a malamute here

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And you're slacking on pics of Diablo!! Will he be running at all this coming season? Has Loco had a go in harness yet?
 
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Two siberians and a malamute here

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And you're slacking on pics of Diablo!! Will he be running at all this coming season? Has Loco had a go in harness yet?

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lol lol lol i`ll get you some pics posted in a sec

Yup hes running this season with my OH and Loco, shes been in harness a few times before it got too warm and shes a nutter thinks shes a sibe lol shes just like her mummy though screams when she sees her harness
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Never had a husky, but I understood that they should only be let off lead in confined spaces , i.e. paddock, which is not quite the same as never let off lead. Looked briefly at that clip but does seem to be an ad for electric collars.
 
All I can say is that video makes me mad, so basically i ruin my dogs like by keeping them on lead, letting them work in harness etc rather than sending a bolt of electricity through them......wow more fool me *rolls eyes*
 
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those markings are deffo CWD
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Wrong, I don't know what makes you an expert but there is zero CWD in that bitch
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Funny that wolf experts and authorities cannot determine what contains wolf and what doesn't yet you seem to know, perhaps the council should employ you
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Good lookalike though isn't she
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Not in my opinion, she looks like any other crossbreed of that "type" a mix of the breeds in them.
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Whether you say no CWD or not, I dont agree, and of course if you want to go the DNA way, perhaps you could explain why BI and NI breeder wouldnt allow DNA testing now Wolf DNA can be seperated? Like DEFRA could only NOT prosecute Julie Kelham because such testing was not available at the time, yet she refuse me offering to pay for a "call of the wild" son to be tested, why?

Can I ask how extensive your breeding knowledge and ownership is in this type of dog? 3, 4yrs? I many not be an expert, but Im not a fool!
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Do you think all the "pedigrees" that are out there for these dogs are true?

Its quite strange that the NI only appeared AFTER the BBC program and the DEFRA case isnt it!! No mention of them before! If the BI is the same as the NI, (pointless but what you appear to be saying) why are the markings on your dog typical of a CWD and none of the NI's display them? You will however see them on the BI sites and the "Inuit" sites who breed dogs that they think look like Wolves, (and own CWD)I have no idea why they think that and to want to breed a dog looking like a wild animal is completley beyond me, but I expect its for the same reasons we have the Bengal Cat etc..... Money!
 
Correct - they shouldn't be let off the lead as they have a very strong hunting instinct and will kill sheep, cats, rabbits etc. One near here was destroyed a couple of years ago because it escaped and killed a sheep. Ask any good husky owner and they'll tell you the same.
Mine are worked in harness and have a large enclosed area to run about in all day. They are all very happy and healthy and not overweight unlike most of the dogs I see out and about these days. It's basically the same as keeping a Horse in a field and hacking for exercise when you think about it!!
I'm not going to watch that video because it'll annoy me. But, electric collars on a husky?? I wouldn't trust them to work (I've seen Jack Russels escape over the wire with electric collars on) on mine in a million years!!
 
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Not in my opinion, she looks like any other crossbreed of that "type" a mix of the breeds in them.
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Whether you say no CWD or not, I dont agree

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As previously said, there is absolutely zilch CWD in her but you can stay in fairyland and believe otherwise, as you seem to know best
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except clearly you don't as you guessed wrong
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. And no, she doesn't look like a crossbreed that you'd find in a rescue kennels hence her popularity. Her looks aside, she's a fantastic family dog
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Careful, HHO takes a dim view on posts that are defamatory and yours are heading that way...fast
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If you watched MC's programme last night you'll see he calls every breed of dog, genetically modified..I'm guessing all breeds were created for 'money'
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I'm guessing the breeding forum is full of people only breeding for 'money', not to improve type, temperament and produce horses (in my case dogs) that can go out and give people some enjoyment in life. In fact, if you were, yourself a breeder, you'd know none of us do it for the money, if I wanted to make money, I wouldn't be breeding inuits
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Not in my opinion, she looks like any other crossbreed of that "type" a mix of the breeds in them.
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Whether you say no CWD or not, I dont agree

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As previously said, there is absolutely zilch CWD in her but you can stay in fairyland and believe otherwise, as you seem to know best
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except clearly you don't as you guessed wrong
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. And no, she doesn't look like a crossbreed that you'd find in a rescue kennels hence her popularity. Her looks aside, she's a fantastic family dog
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Careful, HHO takes a dim view on posts that are defamatory and yours are heading that way...fast
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If you watched MC's programme last night you'll see he calls every breed of dog, genetically modified..I'm guessing all breeds were created for 'money'
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I'm guessing the breeding forum is full of people only breeding for 'money', not to improve type, temperament and produce horses (in my case dogs) that can go out and give people some enjoyment in life. In fact, if you were, yourself a breeder, you'd know none of us do it for the money, if I wanted to make money, I wouldn't be breeding inuits
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Nope sorry you are quite wrong, did YOU see MC program? They did in fact say Dogs were bred by us to serve a purpose, do a job, they were never bred to look like another animal.
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Fairyland is a good place, thing is I have it first hand from people who have bought these BI dogs, that the breeders know whats in them but dont like to say, they were concerned about inbreeding in the NI and thats one of the reasons they split, am I right so far?
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The CWD was introduced to expand the gene pool, perhaps the breeder just never told you, there is a LOT of that surrounding this type of dog.
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Im sure the forum does take a dim view on deflamatory posts, but mine are the truth!
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I dont imply people live in fairyland either!
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Im pleased she is a good family dog, but Im afraid she doesnt look like a Wolf if thats what you think, my opinion only of course she looks like a mixture of what she is.

Please dont preach to me about not breeding for money. I have been exhibiting, working and involved with breeding dogs for 20yrs, and the NI, BI, Tamaskan and all the others are produced for money. The numbers for sale is incredible, the health problems are even more of a concern. Im not slating you in particular, but you will find many many litters for sale on a very regular basis, with such a tiny gene pool is it any wonder problems in helath and temperament are arising in some of them?

FYI, several national rescue organisiations have has NI/BI/Utes in them for rehoming, they tend to rehome tham as Husky crosses or GSD crosses though as thats what most of them look like.

I have no ill feelings towards the dogs themselves, just the lies that surround their creation (NI)
 
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I have no hesitation of condemning outright cruel & malicious practice of The Husky Club UK telling Husky owners that Husky's' should not be allowed off lead because they will not recall and the welfare problems they cause with such ourageous statements --- so many Huskys are ending up in rescues because owners cannot cope with being dragged around at the end of a lead year in year out

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LMFAO!!!!
They end up in rescue because people buy them for the looks then work out they NEED work and cant cope!
It's a dog I have always loved and seriously considered buying but decided against it because working one in harness would be impossable for me sue to other comitments.
 
Oh is she a Czech Wolfdog then?

I am totally ignorant of the BI/NI breed apart from what I have read SM write on here. To me they look like some sort of BSD/GSD cross with some other breeds in them. They don't look anything like wolves - I see wolves almost every day and they are skinny, tall, lanky things with sharp features with totally different shaped and coloured eyes; I think wolves are beautiful and I think SMs Inuits are nice looking dogs but deffo not "wolf-lookalikes"
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Fairyland is not defamatory when you're trying to tell me my bitch has CWD in her when she doesn't. Also when you question the extent of my knowledge on the breed then go on to say 'I have it first hand from people who have bought these BI dogs' - I go by facts, not 'he said, she said'.

Yes, but what purpose does the pug serve? None. Atleast there are a few BI's out there trained in search & rescue. If you watched pedigree dogs exposed then you'd know that nearly every breed in the country is bred for looks these days. My ex will tell you how the KC have ruined the true working border terrier and C's weekly will show you how the English Bull Terrier has been modified to create a far more enhanced roman nose.

There are few inuits for sale compared with the amount of Labs, Chihuahua's, spaniels, D de B's e.t.c but I agree that in any breed not everyone is breeding for the 'right' reasons!

Its amazing how many times I get asked, are they wolves regarding Shala and Nero yet Brier is a much more realistic lookalike so the opinions of the general public differs considerably from yours, which is pleasing for me considering I'm breeding a lookalike. Regardless of their looks they are the most fabulous dog and I wouldn't think of owning another breed after these.

Regarding health problems in dogs, I refer back to 'Pedigree dogs exposed', plenty of ill-health dogs yet not an inuit in sight. As you well know I have a few inuits and am yet to visit the vet for a reason other than hipscoring, vaccs or whelping with them since owning them.

I fail to understand the whole gene pool subject and perhaps you or someone else could explain it better for me. In the arab world, they reguarly cover daughter with father (something I definitely do not agree with!!!), in the KC the certainly allow using sire on female progeny, in the wild a male wolf with often cover his daughter and brothers and sisters have even been known to branch off and create a new pack, having been collared they are yet to see freak offspring.

On the subject of money, I certainly wasn't preaching but I'm totally honest in saying for the sleepless nights, hours of work, not to mention worry and stress (I love my girls dearly!!), lovely big vets bills, not to mention the feed bills (Royal canin is nearly £40 a bag - and a bag doesn't go far with ten hungry babies) breeding dogs is certainly no money spinner. As I say if I wanted to make some money, I wouldn't breed.
 
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