I'm upset/shocked, saw horse seriously beaten on way home.

[SmartieBean09]

This thread is starting to get on my wobbly bits!

My god, some of you are down right bitches!

Any minute now someone is going to declare that they also would like world peace.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

My first reply was written before I had read the whole thread now I have.

What about the poor girl who was having the trouble with her horse,!!!!!!
SHE WAS BEATING THE **** OUT OFF IT. No horse deserves that, if she had controlled her temper the horse would not have been running circles round her. This horse is probably beaten daily and lives his life in fear but oh never mind as long as the poor rider is ok hey.
What the hell are you on.

So why didn't you do anything about it?

I really don't understand the point of your OP.

 

[alpha1]

the OP SHOULD feel guilty.

it is the same as standing by and seeing an animal beaten in a market, at a gymkhana, at a county show...or being even more emotive, tethered at the roadside...

i'm sorry, but if EVERYONE took the same action as the OP and drove on by, then God only can help equines in the UK

As i posted before, i would have said something...and i will continue to say something.

The OP didnt do the right thing in this situation..and if ever she is confronted with a similar situation, her actions would be somewhat different

Sorry nativeponies, you answered my question before I wrote it!

 

[PapaFrita]

Agreed. People are too quick to judge and jump to conclusions.

Agreed; like the people who assume that the rider is an habitual horse-beater who would've sworn at the OP and chased her in her car with a suddenly cooperative horse that she was able effortlessly to vault onto brandishing a knife...
Jeeez.

 

[PapaFrita]

Yes, but I also have very small legs... I cant run very fast at all!

Somehow I think you'd do a VERY good job of defending yourself

 

[JoJo_]

I personally wasn't at that circus as i'm not remotely interested in that type of thing...but "if" i was, you can bet your last quid i would have said something

As people have said, it is easy to say you would do something when your not in that situation.

Like I said in my previous post, not everyone is the same. Perhaps nativeponies and jemima_too and all those other users who are having a go at the OP are more confident/brave/confrontational than others. I dont think you should have a go at the OP for that!

It is the rider who was in the wrong - can we please remember that? There is no excuse for beating a horse!

Nativeponies - has this post just riled you? Or have you other issues with the OP for some other reason?

 

[somethingorother]

Skipped to the end. But why is everyone making up eleborate stories about this rider and what could have happened?? We don't know! We probably never will. What we do know from the OP is that she was beating her horse (as much as you ever know anything you see on a forum is true). there's no excuse for beating your horse as described. And i'm not sure if i would have got out of my car and offered to help. In fact. I'm sure i would be more likely to get out, take the whip off her, snap it in half over my knee and give her a mouthfull. Because i would be shocked and angry at what i saw, and the only object of my sympathy would be the horse.

OP, don't feel bad, plenty of people on here would have done the same. You don't know until you're in that exact situation. We all like to think we would calmly help, but not many people could manage it. And it is risky to argue with a stranger when they're angry.

I don't blame you at all. I hope that was just a moment where she lost it after a cruddy day, and that horse and rider are ok.

 

[china]

im sorry but if a person is in a mind state to beat their horse with their schooling whip they wouldnt hesitate to wrap said schooling whip around your head if they are in such a temper. such a scenario would stop you taking the chance of ever offering help to some one again.
at the end of the day, we all have different opinions on what we would have done but it cant be changed! end of!
if it had been a large strapping chap beating their horse, would you have stopped? i know i wouldnt have! i maybe would have found out where they were stabled and let the whw or someone similar deal with it rather than putting myself at risk.

 

[HappyHorses:)]

I've skipped to the end after the first two pages so sorry if I'm repeating anyone.

Ok a friend of mine faced a similar situation about a year ago, girl beating her horse around the head with a schooling whip and yanking it in the mouth. She did stop and try to help calm the rider down. For this she got repeatedly sworn at, spat at, nearly trampled over by a spinning horse and then had her car slapped with the girls schooling whip.

OP everyone is different, some would stop to advise, help, and some be to shocked to do so at the time. I wanted to post my friends story as a warning that sometimes 'help' is not always appreciated and if someone cannot control their anger then some people can feel intimidated by other peoples aggression. Try not to feel bad OP. No-one can do the right thing all the time no matter what they say.

Some people on here are far too aggressive for my liking. It really isn't necessary.

 

[*hic*]

im sorry but if a person is in a mind state to beat their horse with their schooling whip they wouldnt hesitate to wrap said schooling whip around your head if they are in such a temper.

One should use some sense - the schooling whip is in the hand of a person attached to a horse by the reins. So don't go within range. It's really not that difficult!

 

[mytwofriends]

I've skipped to the end after the first two pages so sorry if I'm repeating anyone.

Ok a friend of mine faced a similar situation about a year ago, girl beating her horse around the head with a schooling whip and yanking it in the mouth. She did stop and try to help calm the rider down. For this she got repeatedly sworn at, spat at, nearly trampled over by a spinning horse and then had her car slapped with the girls schooling whip.

OP everyone is different, some would stop to advise, help, and some be to shocked to do so at the time. I wanted to post my friends story as a warning that sometimes 'help' is not always appreciated and if someone cannot control their anger then some people can feel intimidated by other peoples aggression. Try not to feel bad OP. No-one can do the right thing all the time no matter what they say.

Some people on here are far too aggressive for my liking. It really isn't necessary.

I think OP bashing should be some kind of Olympic Sport. Unfortunately it's one thing this country appears to be very good at .....

 

[Jake10]

And you could have got out of your car and asked if she was ok and defused the situation by offering to help and showed her or told her how to get the results she needed but you just sat there. What the hell are you on?

Not every one appreciates complete strangers sticking their nose in and offering 'advice' especially when they're already wound up. They wouldn't know if you actually new anything about horses and what would have happened if OP had helped and ended up getting kicked etc?

ETS - haven't read all the pages

 

[nativetyponies]

dont worry, you could have had a right earful from such a horrid person, dont take notice of these know-alls- its ok to nag and bitch on but would they do anything different in that situation??

rosie...exactly what would you do?...as little as the OP or would you have gone that extra centimetre and actually done something?

 

[nativetyponies]

I think OP bashing should be some kind of Olympic Sport. Unfortunately it's one thing this country appears to be very good at .....

unlike helping horses in need.

 

[*hic*]

rosie...exactly what would you do?...as little as the OP or would you have gone that extra centimetre and actually done something?

Of course there was another, safer, option for the OP. She could have driven to within shouting distance and said "If you don't get a hold of your temper and stop hitting that horse I shall take pictures and inform a the authorities. If you would like some help from me calm down and ask nicely". Then she merely had to retreat to a safe distance and wait for the outcome.

 

[skewbald_again]

Actually some of us do - we've done it.

If I actually give you your medal will you give it a rest?

 

[bryngelenponies]

Of course there was another, safer, option for the OP. She could have driven to within shouting distance and said "If you don't get a hold of your temper and stop hitting that horse I shall take pictures and inform a the authorities. If you would like some help from me calm down and ask nicely". Then she merely had to retreat to a safe distance and wait for the outcome.

I think this would have been a good option and the option that I probably would have chosen had I been in that situation. At least then you can make a quick get away.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

rosie...exactly what would you do?...as little as the OP or would you have gone that extra centimetre and actually done something?

i would have shouted at the cow to stop- my objections on here are the way the OP has been roasted for not responding- as others have said, we arent all the same and maybe the OP felt nervous about confrontation--anything could have happened.

 

[somethingorother]

If I actually give you your medal will you give it a rest?

Or as they said in the old days (school days )

Do you want a chufty badge???

 

[nativetyponies]

If I actually give you your medal will you give it a rest?

She doesn't need a medal, she is just taking hold of the situation.

something you aren't comfortable with, maybe?

 

[PapaFrita]

dont worry, you could have had a right earful from such a horrid person, dont take notice of these know-alls- its ok to nag and bitch on but would they do anything different in that situation??

I don't get it... it's wrong for people to judge the OP on her OWN action (or in fact lack of action) which she describes in her own words, but it's absolutely fine to assume the rider in question is an habitual horse-beater who would've attacked the OP had she intervened... ? Why don't you assume that the rider was just having a really rubbish day and made a massive error of judgement and that perhaps she WOULD have appreciated some help? You're so keen to overlook the OP's lack of judgement, but not the rider... and after all we only have the OP's word as to what exactly happened. Not exactly likely to be a balanced view, is it?

 

[SmartieBean09]

If I actually give you your medal will you give it a rest?

pmsl!!!

 

[nativetyponies]

i would have shouted at the cow to stop- my objections on here are the way the OP has been roasted for not responding- as others have said, we arent all the same and maybe the OP felt nervous about confrontation--anything could have happened.

The OP usually comes across as less than nervous TBH...

 

[Kokopelli]

Ok I'm getting sick of this now!

Yes the OP did nothing to help when she could of, but what is abusing her doing? Just making her more upset and probably more scared of confontation that she may feel even more threatened if that situation happened again!

Some people on here are being bullys! And verbal abuse is sometimes worse than physical, I think the OP now knows she should have done something, just leave her alone now you are not achieveing anything by having a go at her!!! Some people on here really get me annoyed, it seems that some people can't post anything without being abusive or horrible.

If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all!

 

[*hic*]

If I actually give you your medal will you give it a rest?

I'll consider it

 

[nativetyponies]

I don't get it... it's wrong for people to judge the OP on her OWN action (or in fact lack of action) which she describes in her own words, but it's absolutely fine to assume the rider in question is an habitual horse-beater who would've attacked the OP had she intervened... ? Why don't you assume that the rider wasn't just having a really rubbish day and made a massive error of judgement and that perhaps she WOULD have appreciated some help? You're so keen to overlook the OP's lack of judgement, but not the rider... and after all we only have the OP's word as to what exactly happened. Not exactly likely to be a balanced view, is it?

nowt queer as folk, eh?

 

[JoJo_]

One should use some sense - the schooling whip is in the hand of a person attached to a horse by the reins. So don't go within range. It's really not that difficult!

Oh give it a rest! In situations like that people dont have all the time to think and analyse all that!!

 

[rosie fronfelen]

The OP usually comes across as less than nervous TBH...

sorry, i dont know her.

 

[*hic*]

Oh give it a rest! In situations like that people dont have all the time to think and analyse all that!!

But they have time to sit and watch? No processing going on in the brain whilst that is happening? Oh well diff'rent strokes and all that!

 

[thatsmygirl]

Well hasn't this been interesting, I'm off to bed.
By posting this I was interested in people views, how they would have reacted, got involved etc and to show how it made me feel.
Some people are along the same lines as me and no if I saw the same again I wouldn't stop the same as if I saw a street fight. The look on this womans face was evil and I didn't know what she was capable off. A rider has geniune problems with a horse without the physio act and beatings I would feel at easy to help.
Some off you talk quite well in front your computer and get quite bitchy but that's not face to face is it, hiding behind a screen. You lost your temper so easily about something which you didn't witness or see how brutal it was that it makes me wonder, is this your normal life with your horse? Losing your temper? Maybe it's second nature to you behaveing like that so that's why why would stop!!!!! Makes me wonder,
anyway bed time oh and thanks rosiefenfalen ( spelt wrong I think) and many others for seeing it as it was and how you would feel in that situation and not losing your temper which many on here seem to do very easy and would probable get on great with the rider, you can bash away together.
Night night