I'm upset/shocked, saw horse seriously beaten on way home.

Monsters said:
What about the poor girl who was having the trouble with her horse,!!!!!!
SHE WAS BEATING THE **** OUT OFF IT. No horse deserves that, if she had controlled her temper the horse would not have been running circles round her. This horse is probably beaten daily and lives his life in fear but oh never mind as long as the poor rider is ok hey.
What the hell are you on.
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And you could have got out of your car and asked if she was ok and defused the situation by offering to help and showed her or told her how to get the results she needed but you just sat there. What the hell are you on?
 
Lippyx said:
If this rider is like this with her horse on a regular basis, she has probably had loads of people offer help, and she has probably told them where to stick it!
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Well from the number of people saying they wouldn't stop to help on here I very much doubt that!
 
hannabanana said:
I agree with jemima and kellysheroes. As a rider she should never of taken it out on her horse and kept doing so, but she may of needed a little assistance to make her realise theres no need to get worked up, or she could of been a horrible person and give you a mouthful if you had offered help. Some do just need bringing back down to Earth while others are just plain rude and nasty. Like my friend who I ride with alot, it always seems to be anyone elses but her own fault when something goes wrong and usually blames the horse if its to do with riding but you just have to remind her its a horse and not a human to make her think. Its in the past now, and hopefully the girl will of calmed down by now and realised what she had done was silly. But at least if you see something similar in the future you know now to offer help and tell them what they are doing is wrong.

Forgot to add that that I have been in shock when I once witnessed a women getting totally stressed at her horse for not loading and smacking it over and over again screaming her head off and I just stood like a lemon, as well as 15
other people and several stewards. I did feel bad that I didnt go over to tell the girl to chill and try again in a different way because her method isnt helping, but no one else did. But I knew that I should do something next time I seen a similar situation, which is what I do now.
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the bottom part off this post sums it up nicely as to how you feel/act when you see something like this for the first time total shock and it's what I also done and couldn't believe what I saw. Maybe if you see horses beaten daily it's a way off live for you but not for me. Iv never seen a animal treated so badly
 
skewbald_again said:
Can you all honestly say, you've never frozen, been too afraid to take someone on, and wished afterwards you had?

I think you're being incredibly harsh.

Of course she should have stopped - er, if in fact she felt confident enough to help, which ain't a given is it? - but she didn't, wrong choice - so you never made a wrong call?

I offered to help someone the other day whose horse was arsing about in the middle of the road and was told to f off.

Will I stop next time? Hope so. Depends. I'm not 100% confident with strangers even when they don't have half a tonne of solid muscle whirling round them.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!..... no seriously i couldn't ;)
 
I'm disappointed at the number of snarky, sarcastic comments aimed at the OP.

Wouldn't a few words of support be more appropriate???

The horse is the victim here, let's not forget that.
 
I've said it before and i'll say it again, if you think that is a real beating then think again, it saddens me that it goes on, but other horses have far far worse done to them, Like being hung from the rafters of their stables with chains and left, or starved and dehydrated
 
thelwell_girl said:
TBH if I had been driving on my own, im not 100% sure I wouldve stopped. NOT because I dont care for the horse, or am not concerned by what I see, but simply because people can be nasty, and downright dangerous. Whos to know what this woman couldve done
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I agree with the above comment. People can turn in the heat of the moment. The OP could have been hurt by the horse or rider.

I'm sorry but sometimes its not worth the risk and it is not our place to get involved in situations like this.
 
FlorenceBassey said:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, if you think that is a real beating then think again, it saddens me that it goes on, but other horses have far far worse done to them, Like being hung from the rafters of their stables with chains and left, or starved and dehydrated
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As much as it saddens me to say this I agree with FB on this one!

TBF it sounds as though the rider has lost their temper and be honest people DO lose their tempers with horses from time to time, I know I have. I am in NO WAY condoning losing your temper with your horse and I regret it when I have, but FAR worse things go on than being socked in the gob and smacked a few times :(
 
FlorenceBassey said:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, if you think that is a real beating then think again, it saddens me that it goes on, but other horses have far far worse done to them, Like being hung from the rafters of their stables with chains and left, or starved and dehydrated
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Normally FB, I agree with things you say, but on this occasion I don't, sorry. If you would like to visit me and stand there tied up, and let me beat you with a schooling whip over and over (and not in a kinky way for those weirdos reading!) and then tell me it's not that bad - then I'll agree with you. Just because other horses have far worse done to them doesn't make what this rider has done any better.
 
alpha1 said:
I agree with the above comment. People can turn in the heat of the moment. The OP could have been hurt by the horse or rider.
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How exactly? All OP had to do was approach and call to offer help. It seems from her description that the "rider" would be able to run her down in any way - she wasn't on the horse. She appears to have had no chance of dragging the horse behind her if she wanted to attack the OP. I suppose she could have abandoned the horse and attacked the OP but it doesn't seem all that likely to me. Perhaps the rider could have sent the horse off down the road to run over the OP - OP has often said how experienced she is so it seems unlikely that she couldn't either catch the horse or step out of its way.

Nope I can't see any reason for not offering help, I would have and have done so.
 
skewbald_again said:
Of course she should have stopped - er, if in fact she felt confident enough to help, which ain't a given is it? - but she didn't, wrong choice - so you never made a wrong call?
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It's not 'a given' that the rider beats her horse on a regular basis OR that she would've told the OP to eff off, but plenty of people are happy to assume that.
Just for the sake of it, why don't we assume that rider had a *****ty day, got bucked off and had chased horse for 4 miles worried sick that he'd get under a car AND that she was late for her second job which she'd taken to pay for said horse and then lets assume, let see... that she made a wrong call.... WOW, wouldn't that be ironic?
THEN lets assume that she would've loved some help but all she got was a disapproving glare from a passerby in a car...
It would've cost NOTHING to offer some help, especially from inside a car when one can just drive away quite easily and safely from a person ON FOOT should he/she become abusive. For the sake of the HORSE, as so many are so eager to point out, it should've been done. And if told to eff off... well then the rant would've been justified and we'd all be agreeing with OP
 
thelwell_girl said:
To add to my previous comment, I am also quite small, so if anyone wanted to start a fight with me, you can probably bet I wouldnt win!
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I agree with this! At 5ft I feel if I went to help someone and they attacked me or tried to hurt me they could easily, however I may wind down a window and ask if they would like my help so I'm less vulnerable by remaing in the car.
 
thelwell_girl said:
To add to my previous comment, I am also quite small, so if anyone wanted to start a fight with me, you can probably bet I wouldnt win!
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T_G, but if your opponent was hampered by an upset horse would there actually be a fight? You see, I'd have run back to the car if the rider started trying to attack me whilst holding the horse!
 
Come on guys its in the past, its a shame the horse was hurt and the rider shouldnt of been hitting it regardless if it was the first time she had ever lost her temper or if it was the usual daily routine. I mean everyone has been in that 'should I intervene' position, not just horse situations but other situations, last time I intervened with something I got a smack in the face lol! Maybe the girl did just need help with calming down or maybe she might of went nuts at the OP and brandished a knife...highly unlikely but with the amount of wierdos in this country it wouldnt suprise me!
 
If it had been a rider having geniune problems with a horse and the rider was in a approachable state I would stop to help but not to a mad woman
 
nativeponies said:
And the OP did diddley squat to help it...speaks volumes to me..stuff the OP'S feelings TBH...
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Well I wonder how likely I'd be to voice a concern in the future like the OP did? Not very likely if I thought I was going to get slammed for it.

Am I missing something here??? It sounded to me like she was genuinely upset.
 
hannabanana said:
Come on guys its in the past, its a shame the horse was hurt and the rider shouldnt of been hitting it regardless if it was the first time she had ever lost her temper or if it was the usual daily routine. I mean everyone has been in that 'should I intervene' position, not just horse situations but other situations, last time I intervened with something I got a smack in the face lol! Maybe the girl did just need help with calming down or maybe she might of went nuts at the OP and brandished a knife...highly unlikely but with the amount of wierdos in this country it wouldnt suprise me!
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Your imagination does you credit:D however really how many people do you know who ride with any form of knife that is likely to be injurious?:)
 
Well I wonder how likely I'd be to voice a concern in the future like the OP did? Not very likely if I thought I was going to get slammed for it.

Am I missing something here??? It sounded to me like she was genuinely upset.
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But I don't understand why the OP needs support or sympathy?

OP made a judgement on the rider without offering to help, or knowing the first thing about the situation and what had led up to the rider's loss of temper.

If she is so quick to condemn the rider without even bothering to find out the facts, she should be happy to be just as quickly judged on her own behaviour by the other posters.
 
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