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Theresa May urged to call General Election NEXT MONTH to push Brexit through quickly

THERESA May could call a General Election as early as next month in a bid to give the Prime Minister further legitimacy to push ahead with Brexit.

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PUBLISHED: 18:26, Sat, Jan 28, 2017 | UPDATED: 18:32, Sat, Jan 28, 2017
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Theresa May could call a General Election as early as next month
A covert group of Tory MPs, kept secret from even the Cabinet, has been putting together a plan since early December for the Prime Minister to call an election for February following a surge in support for the Conservative Party.

The move depended entirely on the outcome of the Supreme Court hearing held last month, with the Tory advisers saying the election would only happen if judges ruled against the Government’s appeal of a High Court decision which ruled parliamentary approval needs to be given before Article 50 can be triggered to start the process of leaving the European Union (EU).

On Tuesday, Supreme Court judges did just that, triggering the plans for a “mandate election” in which Mrs May would be put forwards as the champion of “the people versus the judges”.

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Although the Prime Minister remains popular, the secret Tory group, originally revealed by the Mail on Sunday last year, does not want her lack of a personal mandate to hold her back, as it did with Jim Callaghan and Gordon Brown.

Without a majority in the House of Lords and a smaller working majority than when she took over from David Cameron, thanks to the loss of Zac Goldsmith’s Richmond Park, a General Election win would bolster Mrs May’s position as leader and make Article 50 amendments run more smoothly.


Growing approval for the Conservatives amid plunging support for Labour has buoyed the secret Tory group into wanting to hold a General Election as soon as possible to ride the wave of support.

Polling this week by respected pollsters ICM put the Conservatives on 42 per cent (unchanged over the past fortnight), Labour on 26 per cent (down two per cent), Ukip on 13 per cent (up one per cent) and the Lib Dems on 10 per cent (up one per cent).

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In pro-Brexit Stoke-on-Trent, where a by-election will take place on February 23, Labour faces an even more dramatic collapse, with a Facebook poll by Labour Leave showing the party slumping 10 points behind Ukip.

An Express.co.uk poll of 11,115 people revealed 78 per cent believe Mrs May will win if she holds a General Election in February.

The Prime Minister has repeatedly said she will remain with the electoral timetable which would mean an Election in 2020.

However, as she gains more and more ground from floundering Labour her advisors are keen to move the vote forward.

Some political commentators are putting May 4 in the diary for an election but the Tory group is believed to be keen for the election to go ahead before Article 50 is triggered at the end of March.

Following the Supreme Court announcement on Tuesday, Mrs May wasted no time in promising a White Paper detailing the Government’s Brexit plans would go ahead.

Yesterday the Government published its bill asking Parliament for permission to trigger the official Brexit process.

But MPs, especially Labour politicians, hit out at at the time-scale which gives them three days to debate the European Union Notification of Withdrawal Bill next Tuesday and Wednesday with a third day of debate and a vote on February 8.

Former shadow business secretary Chuka Umunna accused ministers of attempting to “muzzle” the Commons by rushing the bill through in just a fortnight.

The uproar could boost the Tory’s decision to hold a General Election as two Labour frontbenchers have quit after Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn laid down a three-line whip to get his MPs to support triggering Article 50.
 

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With the debacle in the House of Lords, Mrs May has very good grounds to call a General Election. Fixed term Parliament Act or no fixed term Parliament Act. Boundary changes or no Boundary changes.

We cannot go on like this with first the Supreme Court interfering with BREXIT now the House of Lords. Unelected people all in a position of sinecure.

As Lord Tebbit said at the end of the debate, "why are we worrying about all these foreigners". Quite, show them the door.

Are we on the threshold of paradise and total utopia, with a Conservative government that will have a sufficient majority to repeal the Hunting Act 2004. We all need to pray so so hard.

The British people are livid about this latest turn of events and Mrs May will, if she goes to the country win with a massive majority. She is a lovely and a very decent caring person and deserves an electoral mandate in her own right, that I am sure will be the view of the majority.
 
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Considering The lords, I'd suggest that as a body they are on very thin ice, a fact of which I would hope, they are aware.

Liberalism and The lords, need to be distanced if either or both aren't to give way to the far right.

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I don't agree that there is either the need or the justification for a general election now. There is no need for one to confer legitimacy on Brexit - this already has majority approval. Nor does the Lords' attempt to put a spanner in the works constitute adequate cause.
An election now, when Labour are so clearly weak, would risk seeming like a tacit admission that, in the fullness of time, in 2020, the stars may not be so opportunely aligned. By then, either Brexit will be working or it will turn out we have made a mistake - making a strategic side-step now to score an easy goal would betray a worrying lack of confidence in the long-term outcome. The government just about has a workable majority as things are, but even if this was boosted tenfold, let's not fool ourselves that repealing the Hunting Act would be very far up their agenda.
 

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I don't agree that there is either the need or the justification for a general election now. The government just about has a workable majority as things are, but even if this was boosted tenfold, let's not fool ourselves that repealing the Hunting Act would be very far up their agenda.

The issue of the Hunting Act 2004 is never far from any conversation with rural MP's when the opportunity arises and as one gets closer to an election, it is raised time and time again.

Why, because many many hunting people are the foot soldiers, delivering fliers etc. They were mobilised at the last election, travelling from their rural 'lairs' deep into enemy territory, i.e, inner cities.

So far their efforts have proved to be in vain. No doubt come the next election, again they will be called upon. There some Conservative MP's in very marginal urban seats who say, their ability to canvass would be seriously diluted without the help of hunting folk.

I am sure you get my drift.
 

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The issue of the Hunting Act 2004 is never far from any conversation with rural MP's when the opportunity arises and as one gets closer to an election, it is raised time and time again.

Why, because many many hunting people are the foot soldiers, delivering fliers etc. They were mobilised at the last election, travelling from their rural 'lairs' deep into enemy territory, i.e, inner cities.

So far their efforts have proved to be in vain. No doubt come the next election, again they will be called upon. There some Conservative MP's in very marginal urban seats who say, their ability to canvass would be seriously diluted without the help of hunting folk.

I am sure you get my drift.

I do. Hunting people are indeed invaluable foot soldiers - I have seen this so many times, and there will certainly be some Conservative MPs whose survival depends on their continued support.

Nevertheless, I think their loyalty is to some extent presumed. Hunting remains a marginal and rather controversial pursuit in the country at large and I suspect the party more generally would be cautious of seeming to align itself too closely with the interests of our particular minority. Rightly or wrongly, we are perceived in some quarters - especially in the many marginal urban constituencies - as wealthy, archaic and rather cruel. I know this (my daughter lives in Hackney, so I should). The cultivation of support in those areas may well be deemed more essential than in the dependable shires.

Repeal will take a great deal of time and stealthy work, I don't think it can be expected to happen soon.
 

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With the debacle in the House of Lords, Mrs May has very good grounds to call a General Election. Fixed term Parliament Act or no fixed term Parliament Act. Boundary changes or no Boundary changes.

We cannot go on like this with first the Supreme Court interfering with BREXIT now the House of Lords. Unelected people all in a position of sinecure.

As Lord Tebbit said at the end of the debate, "why are we worrying about all these foreigners". Quite, show them the door.

Are we on the threshold of paradise and total utopia, with a Conservative government that will have a sufficient majority to repeal the Hunting Act 2004. We all need to pray so so hard.

The British people are livid about this latest turn of events and Mrs May will, if she goes to the country win with a massive majority. She is a lovely and a very decent caring person and deserves an electoral mandate in her own right, that I am sure will be the view of the majority.

The GE needs to wait, we need to focus on getting Article 50 triggered, the Brexit negotiations started and finalised and the constituency boundaries altered. A GE now would potentially allow the remainers to consolidate their votes in one party and derail the Brexit process.

Unfortunately the HoL have managed to make the status of EU residents into a bargaining chip in the upcoming negotiations as HoC now either have to reject their amendments (and suffer potential ill will from the EU) or accept them and have their hands tied. The EU have made it quite clear that they will not discuss exit terms etc until Article 50 is triggered, we should therefore abide by this as should the HoL.

However interestingly today Juncker has put forward a 5 option plan of what the EU could move into being in the future one of which options is the possibility of restricted movement and making it back into a trading block. It is a shame that this was not muted prior to our referendum as depending upon the outcome of the EU opinion on these plans we may well have voted differently.
 

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However interestingly today Juncker has put forward a 5 option plan of what the EU could move into being in the future one of which options is the possibility of restricted movement and making it back into a trading block. It is a shame that this was not muted prior to our referendum as depending upon the outcome of the EU opinion on these plans we may well have voted differently.

It all sounds rather like the wife demanding a divorce, and the dimwitted husband calling her bluff, only to realise that THIS TIME she means it, and he then decides, too late perhaps (hopefully), that perhaps he should compromise.

I cannot understand the stupidity of Juncker and crew. With the UK leaving the EU and with other right-handed political parties in France and Germany gaining in popularity, then disbandment of the failing regime is highly likely. To cap it all, Juncker continues with his refusal to accept any negotiation until Article 50 is triggered. Perhaps I'm missing something but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that Juncker finds cold comfort in a bed-sit.

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If Lord Hague says there should be a General Election, there is no argument..... better get on with it.....


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Theresa May should scrap fixed-term parliaments and call an early general election, the former Tory leader Lord Hague says today, as a poll showed support for Jeremy Corbyn collapsing among Labour Party members.

Lord Hague warns that “trouble is coming” over the next two years as the Government tries to implement Brexit, and says the Prime Minister needs a bigger Commons majority to force through change.

The next general election is due to take place in May 2020, but Lord Hague argues in the Daily Telegraph that if the Fixed Term Parliaments Act did not exist, the case for an election this spring would have been “very strong indeed”.

That argument was strengthened on Monday by a YouGov opinion poll that found half of Labour Party members believe Jeremy Corbyn should step down as leader before the next election.

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A total of 36 per cent of Labour Party members believe Mr Corbyn should quit immediately, with another 14 per cent saying he should resign before the country goes to the polls in three years’ time. An equivalent poll by the same company last year found that 63 per cent of members wanted him to fight the next election.

Mr Corbyn already lacks support among Labour MPs, but the YouGov poll is highly significant because it was Labour members who chose him as leader, and it is his backing from the membership which has, until now, deterred other potential leaders from challenging him.

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Lord Hague said Mr Corbyn was Labour’s “least credible leader ever” and had led his party to “its worst condition since the 1930s”.

The Conservatives’ historic by-election win in Copeland last month, when the Government became the first to gain a seat from an opposition party for 35 years, had already prompted calls from some Tory MPs for an early election, with at least two Cabinet ministers said to be in favour of one.

But fixed-term parliaments - introduced as a concession to the Liberal Democrats during the coalition government - can only be overridden by a Commons vote in which at least two-thirds of MPs back an early election, or by a vote of no confidence in the Government.

Lord Hague, the most senior Conservative figure to call publicly for an early election, suggests that with Labour MPs unlikely to back an early election, repealing the Fixed Term Parliaments Act is the only answer.

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He writes that while the Act was necessary to satisfy the LibDems and enable the formation of a coalition government, “six years on the circumstances are very different, and it is time to question whether a fixed parliamentary term is in the interests of the country as we withdraw from the European Union”.

He adds: “We have a new Prime Minister and Cabinet facing the most complex challenges of modern times: Brexit negotiations, the Trump administration, the threat from Scottish nationalists, and many other issues.

“There is no doubt that they would be in a stronger position to take the country through these challenges successfully if they had a large and decisive majority in the Commons and a new full term ahead of them.”

Mrs May has made it clear to her Cabinet colleagues that she does not favour an early election, because she thinks it would be self-serving and create added uncertainty at a time when the country needs stability.

Lord Hague, however, argues that she would be doing the right thing for the country by calling an election, as a larger Commons majority would strengthen her hand during Brexit negotiations with the EU.



It would also be desirable when it comes to getting the final Brexit deal through Parliament. “Any deal is bound to be full of compromises which one group or another in Parliament finds difficult to stomach,” writes Lord Hague. “As British law needs to be amended countless times to take account of leaving the EU treaties, the Government could face many close votes, concessions or defeats as it tries to implement Brexit.

“That prospect will embolden the EU negotiators, and makes an agreement that is good for the UK harder to achieve. It could also lead to a situation where the Prime Minister faces a standoff with parliament over a deal that will have taken two years to negotiate and is nearly impossible to change.”

Today the Government faces its second Parliamentary defeat on Brexit in the space of a week, when Lords vote on a proposed amendment to the Article 50 bill which would give the Commons a “meaningful vote” on the final Brexit deal before it is finalised.

Last week peers voted to amend the Bill to guarantee the rights of EU citizens living in the UK. The amendments are expected to be overturned in the Commons next week.
 

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If Lord Hague says there should be a General Election, there is no argument..... better get on with it.....


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The Chancellor's tax-grab aimed at the self-employed is a classic example of biting the hand that feeds - something that, historically, the Labour party has always had a shrewder grasp of than the Conservatives, who are cavalier in their disregard for their core vote - first, the hunting community, and now white van man.

This folly suggests to me that Philip Hammond is not planning for a general election in the immediate future.
 

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The Chancellor's tax-grab aimed at the self-employed is a classic example of biting the hand that feeds - something that, historically, the Labour party has always had a shrewder grasp of than the Conservatives, who are cavalier in their disregard for their core vote - first, the hunting community, and now white van man.

This folly suggests to me that Philip Hammond is not planning for a general election in the immediate future.

Those were my thoughts too. Especially the question of not calling a General Election.

That said, the tax issue is not due to kick in until April 2018 and clearly there is the Autumn Budget, where it can be watered down. Frankly it's neither here nor there in the great scheme of things, bearing in mind Labour had prior sight of the Chancellor's budget and did not mention the matter until the Conservative pheasants of the party, started squawking into their roosts.

I was wondering if Spreadsheet Phil has been crafty by providing:

a) Some smoke to cover Mrs May's visit to Brussels
b) More smoke for the idiots in the House of Lords concerning BREXIT
c) Running an intentional 'heel line' to draw the pack off the idea of an Election when in fact, the Vixen is heading for that very earth.

I use the adjective vixen in the nicest possible way, because Mrs May is a lovely lady and damn clever with it. Indeed far cleverer than Lady Thatcher.

My money is still for the calling of an election very shortly after Mrs May has written her Article 50 Letter.
 

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The Chancellor's tax-grab aimed at the self-employed is a classic example of biting the hand that feeds - something that, historically, the Labour party has always had a shrewder grasp of than the Conservatives, who are cavalier in their disregard for their core vote - first, the hunting community, and now white van man.
I thought only the better off self-employed would have to pay more NI, and half of those registered as self-employed, who earn less than £16,250, would be better off. Is that not correct?
 

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On a different track, I'm now worried if they don't call an election and get an overwhelming mandate for exit. I just found out that the recent law cases have come to the conclusion that although it's not specifically worded, if we fail to reach an agreement at the end of two years, we can stay in the EU. So is obvious what the Lords is trying to do - get themselves two years to persuade MPs to vote against whatever deal is achieved, and keep us in. That's why this current battle with the Lords is so crucial.
 

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I thought only the better off self-employed would have to pay more NI, and half of those registered as self-employed, who earn less than £16,250, would be better off. Is that not correct?

It depends what you mean by 'better off', I would think it's well north of £16,250.

On a different track, I'm now worried if they don't call an election and get an overwhelming mandate for exit. I just found out that the recent law cases have come to the conclusion that although it's not specifically worded, if we fail to reach an agreement at the end of two years, we can stay in the EU. So is obvious what the Lords is trying to do - get themselves two years to persuade MPs to vote against whatever deal is achieved, and keep us in. That's why this current battle with the Lords is so crucial.

It's a worrying thought. At one point it was being reported that, once Article 50 is triggered, the process is irreversible. But apparently that is not the case. Clearly the Remainers are massing for a counter-attack.

See here: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...r-bettel-i-love-you-theresa-may-a7621091.html
http://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...ourg-PM-May-Global-Britain-Article-50-revoked
 

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It depends what you mean by 'better off', I would think it's well north of £16,250.
I meant that self employed people earning £16,250 or less would have paid less NI in the future under the proposed tax change - i.e. they would have more money left in their pocket. At least according to the Deloitte figures (https://interactive.guim.co.uk/uploader/embed/2017/03/nics-zip/giv-3902nUcaPmhCcENI/) they would. And if "around half of the 4.8 million workers registered as self-employed earn less than £13,000", that means that around half of the self-employed would have been taxed less - i.e. they wouldn't have experienced a tax-grab.

ETA: "If you're one of those families... you're just managing... I want to address you directly". Well, no help for the self-employed who are "just managing".
 
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I meant that self employed people earning £16,250 or less would have paid less NI in the future under the proposed tax change - i.e. they would have more money left in their pocket. At least according to the Deloitte figures (https://interactive.guim.co.uk/uploader/embed/2017/03/nics-zip/giv-3902nUcaPmhCcENI/) they would. And if "around half of the 4.8 million workers registered as self-employed earn less than £13,000", that means that around half of the self-employed would have been taxed less - i.e. they wouldn't have experienced a tax-grab.

ETA: "If you're one of those families... you're just managing... I want to address you directly". Well, no help for the self-employed who are "just managing".

That may be how the Treasury wish to spin it, but the other half will be worse off. 1% and then 2% in a year's time or so may not be too big a deal to make a fuss over but it's a worrying sign of the current direction of travel. I thought I had voted for a tax-cutting government, but it seems I was mistaken - tax is a bigger proportion of GDP now than it has been for over 20 years.
 

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On a different track, I'm now worried if they don't call an election and get an overwhelming mandate for exit. I just found out that the recent law cases have come to the conclusion that although it's not specifically worded, if we fail to reach an agreement at the end of two years, we can stay in the EU. So is obvious what the Lords is trying to do - get themselves two years to persuade MPs to vote against whatever deal is achieved, and keep us in. That's why this current battle with the Lords is so crucial.

You are so correct. There needs to be a wholesale weeding out of the Lords.

Very few are proper gentry. I feel the days of hereditaries are over and there does seem to be a large number that are both moderate and modest having in general, a great deal to be modest about.
 

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That may be how the Treasury wish to spin it, but the other half will be worse off. 1% and then 2% in a year's time or so may not be too big a deal to make a fuss over but it's a worrying sign of the current direction of travel. I thought I had voted for a tax-cutting government, but it seems I was mistaken - tax is a bigger proportion of GDP now than it has been for over 20 years.
Oh yes, some will be worse off - that would have to be true for the govt to get more from the tax! Furthermore, not increasing NI appeared to be one of their election manifesto pledges - although they subsequently went on to explain, in typical politician style, that this wasn't referring to Class 4 NICS paid by the self-employed.
 

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It would be a landslide of historic proportions.

The number of people particularly men who have said, "cometh the hour cometh the woman" is quite phenomenal.

We have one absolutely fantastic Prime Minister in Mrs May, who is a superb leader par excellence and who dare I say, eclipes the late Lady Thatcher in many ways.

Steely quiet determination, home at Sonning-on-Thames (so so British) and does her own shopping personally in Waitrose.
 

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We have one absolutely fantastic Prime Minister in Mrs May, who is a superb leader par excellence and who dare I say, eclipes the late Lady Thatcher in many ways.

Steely quiet determination, home at Sonning-on-Thames (so so British) and does her own shopping personally in Waitrose.

J_m old bean, I've rumbled you, you're simply winding others up, aren't you? :D

I suspect that history my have her as an exceptional leader, but just how where she shops can have any influence, I'm unsure. :D

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J_m old bean, I've rumbled you, you're simply winding others up, aren't you? :D

I suspect that history my have her as an exceptional leader, but just how where she shops can have any influence, I'm unsure. :D

Alec.

Not in the least Alec, I was merely pointing out we have a splendid leader and Mrs May embodies all that is good about the United Kingdom.

You have omitted "cometh the hour cometh the woman".

Waitrose, Sonning-on-Thames and Churchillian attributes, are indicative of values that cements our society.

In the event a General Election were called, many millions would feel comfortable with Mrs May and identify with her simple but so British lifestyle.

In all the circumstances what is wanted in Britishness.

When Mrs May signs off Article 50 on Wednesday March 29, she will be expressing the above to a greater or lesser extent. We are British. Foreigners will be tolerated but only so long as they respect the United Kingdom and all our ways.
 
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I am sure that folk will not mind my saying, I TOLD YOU SO.

By 1 October 2017, The Hunting Act 2004 will be repealed.


Yes you did. Personally I think it's a mistake - there could be some nasty 'what-ifs'.

I'm afraid, even assuming a Conservative landslide, repeal would probably be impossible in that timescale even with an explicit manifesto pledge, which I don't think is likely.
 

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Yes you did. Personally I think it's a mistake - there could be some nasty 'what-ifs'.

I'm afraid, even assuming a Conservative landslide, repeal would probably be impossible in that timescale even with an explicit manifesto pledge, which I don't think is likely.

Thank you Isbister.

Clearly Mrs May is thoroughly ticked off with the House of Lords.

They will have to comply with repeal otherwise they will be toast by the New year, especially the hereditaries.

In other words they will be given an opportunity to redeem themselves via repeal of the Hunting Act.

It's all extremely complex and indicative of the complexities, that caused me to nail my Early General Election colours to the mast.

BTW in my 4th post in this thread on 6 November 2016 I said:

"Come on Countryman, you and I both know what the arrangements are and that in a new Parliament, the SNP are going to be wholly emasculated and will have no say in repeal of the Hunting Act 2004".

In other words Mrs May's other bete noir, Nicola Sturgeon will be finished. I confidently the SNP will lose at least 20 seats.
 
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I think you will find that the government has no time to waste on something like hunting that only a small minority even think about let alone like. There are far, far bigger fish to fry and any government that wastes time on issues like this will lose a lot of votes forever. Some who hunt may well be Tory stalwarts but they are a small proportion of that group and a teeny weeny proportion of the total voting population. I know a good few people who hunt and doubt whether any of them would be swayed on that issue alone.
 

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To argue that repeal of the Hunting Act plays any part, or ever will, in the government's thinking at the present time seems to me to be getting things a little out of perspective.

I'm happy to take Theresa May at her word on this occasion - the GE is all about Brexit and ensuring the government will have solid support for what seem likely to be some difficult negotiations.

Repeal of the Hunting Act is no more than a little side-show at the moment.
 

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To argue that repeal of the Hunting Act plays any part, or ever will, in the government's thinking at the present time seems to me to be getting things a little out of perspective.

I'm happy to take Theresa May at her word on this occasion - the GE is all about Brexit and ensuring the government will have solid support for what seem likely to be some difficult negotiations.

Repeal of the Hunting Act is no more than a little side-show at the moment.

Yes, you have a reasonable point in the great scheme of things but it is symbolic and totemic for many Conservatives.

Assuming the Conservatives win the election, then Repeal of the Hunting Act 2004 is a MANDATORY COLLATERAL BONUS.

Because my MP expects me to put up his signage and boards on our land bordered by roads. I am always being asked for donations.

If a vote to repeal is placed before Parliament and it is successful, my generosity along with many others, will know no bounds, along with all those who give up a considerable amount of time to canvass.

On the other hand...........no vote, no success, no money.
 

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It's only totemic for a tiny minority of conservatives I am with TP not a chance of repeal ATM .
I would like to be wrong of course .
 
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