In the words of Dame Shirley Bassey….
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P3LH
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Complete fake news. Smear campaign. Outrageous claims.
The early royal corgis, like many of them in that era were….interesting.
Jokes aside, their temperament back in those days was…best contextualised by really putting into perspective they were only a generation or two fresh off the farm, hence why they all looked so different too. They really were a scatterbred farm dog, really like the farm bred russells we see - and all grouped together by one defining trait, ‘nip and duck’. It didn’t really matter what they looked like as long as they were small enough not to get hoofed in the face and had this behaviour trait. That’s what made a corgi a corgi. Some were bigger than others, some were longer, some were lower, some looked like mini Welsh sheepdogs, some were more bull terrier like - it varied a lot. But people forget they were ‘hardcore’ stock dogs before the early breeders started collecting them and breeding a type, and you read and hear about the early types holding beef cattle at bay by the nose, or clamping on to the tails of waywood young steers. They were also bred to free think and didn’t work anything like a collie e.g told what to do. More like farmyard bouncers.
Their temp and personality in the days where the queens early corgis were taking chunks out of coppers and clock winders alike would be more akin these days to Aussie cattle dogs/kelpies whereas nowadays general temperament has ‘improved’ as a pet dog (he says..) and you don’t find the herding instinct there much. Breeders have bred away from what they were. Most are just like teddies today - which I’m not sure how I feel about. I was intrigued at the WCL show Sunday how much variation in type there is. Some were so long snd low that everything dragged on the floor, and their slab sides wobbled as they moved. It was nice to see some lither, higher on the leg lines.
Interestingly I believe there is a link between the dogs that do still have the herding characteristics and the sharpness - madam does herd, madam also doesn’t like when people and other pets aren’t all in one space too…
CorvusCorax
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I saw a Cardigan puppy when I was away last week. Must be only the second one I've ever seen.
P3LH
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And again quite different as their ancestors goes more towards a teckle type dog. Cardi pups have the most marvellously entertaining ears I always find.
P3LH
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For anyone who cares here are some of the first corgi ‘types’ in the early days. Then in the third image, the show bench photo of when ‘type’ was more established as the breed most of us think of when we think corgi, from one of the best kennels there was imo - although type has deviated in certain lines these days from those exquisite wey dogs, which is interesting as the standard has never changed.
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splashgirl45
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the second photo is how i remember them in my youth,(a very long time ago
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)misst
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I love the expression on the face of the one on the far right of the group photo he looks for all the world as if he is planning something darstardly.
he looks for all the world as if he is planning something darstardly.
Moobli
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This made me chuckle
P3LH
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First walk - done. Him being slightly dense, we aren’t convinced he even noticed anything was different to the garden. First time walking on a lead and didn’t seem to even notice that either…
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P3LH
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P.S yes I know, I’m a terrible owner for not lead training him before taking him out for the first walk but…ive never bothered with any of them. Rather take it as it comes.
Parrotperson
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What a good lad. Was the tank ok too? Didn’t try and lead him astray?!
I have mine walking on a lead quite well already. But only because we discovered having re fenced the garden fir him that he soooo small he can just skip merrily through it. ??. Fencer chap coming next week to sort.
I have mine walking on a lead quite well already. But only because we discovered having re fenced the garden fir him that he soooo small he can just skip merrily through it. ??. Fencer chap coming next week to sort.
Moobli
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He’s beautiful ?. I don’t lead train immediately either.
splashgirl45
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He is looking even cuter if that is possible.
P3LH
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She is exemplary on walks and does so, I’m sure, to show me up as to ensure everyone that meets her becomes a naysayer about her true vibrant character. Model, quiet and compliant dog in public. Her only downfall is recall as, she knows best.
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P3LH
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We also stopped off for breakfast en route and he dosed under the table apparently unaware of the exceptional amounts of admiration he was receiving from passers by. There were several people quite unenthused at his ignorance to their attempts to call him over to say hello.
P3LH
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Well I just find it pointless as although they might get used to being ‘on’ a lead it’s in a fake environment. He was great after initially being confused why he couldn’t dash off to chase leaves.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
If they want to be round you as a matter of course, lead training is secondary anyway.
P3LH
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splashgirl45
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he has grown!!!! a very harmonious picture, is madam happy with her handsome companion, he is getting better looking every time you post
P3LH
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That is dependent to how compliant he is being to her whims and demands. He has started to tell her off when she’s being too rough or is pestering him, but generally they are firm friends.
Clodagh
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He is just delightful ?
P3LH
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During this evenings training session I concluded two things.
a) he does things when asked first time AND has impulse control over food. He simply cannot be a true Pembroke. They don’t know the meaning of food being in existence for longer than a fraction of a second.
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B) see below, he has ideas above his station as to what to expect from life with me/and with training of me. Some of his litter mates may be getting ring ready but he can dream on
a) he does things when asked first time AND has impulse control over food. He simply cannot be a true Pembroke. They don’t know the meaning of food being in existence for longer than a fraction of a second.
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B) see below, he has ideas above his station as to what to expect from life with me/and with training of me. Some of his litter mates may be getting ring ready but he can dream on
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splashgirl45
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he is a little star
chaps89
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He’s a sweetheart. Can I ask a stupid question please? Are there tails naturally short?
P3LH
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Both of mine have long tails but yes, you do get natural bobs. Several in Gus’ litter were natural Bob tail, as was his Dam.
chaps89
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Thankyou
P3LH
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although it’s worth noting…length of natural bobs vary a lot. His dam and bobbed siblings all have a little stump. As you can see here there are other ‘options’ too that crop up….it’s believed the original mongrel type dogs which became corgis were all natural bobs…
https://www.welshcorgi-news.ch/Gesundheit/Bobtails_eng.html
https://www.welshcorgi-news.ch/Gesundheit/Bobtails_eng.html
P3LH
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Officially started having (albeit short ones) trips out with both the others now. Mainly to get him used to walking in a line (because I’m anal about on lead etiquette) and for socialising.
He really doesn’t care about anything though which is interesting, I’m yet to see him even flinch. He met a 9 month old OES X standard poodle which was one of the biggest dogs I’ve ever seen, and didn’t bat an eyelid/was completely neutral about the whole thing.
He really doesn’t care about anything though which is interesting, I’m yet to see him even flinch. He met a 9 month old OES X standard poodle which was one of the biggest dogs I’ve ever seen, and didn’t bat an eyelid/was completely neutral about the whole thing.
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P3LH
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splashgirl45
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Getting better looking all of the time, he looks really cuddly, is he?