Info needed - Livery gone bad

[Apizz2019]

Apologies for the vagueness of this post.

Has anyone rented a private yard from a farmer/landowner in this area and had issues - threats, violence, demands for monies outstanding when nothing is owed etc?

I believe this individuals modus operandi is to take on liveries in the hope of developing a relationship and when this doesn't happen, the individual turns nasty.

An incident has been logged with the police and the person has been spoken to, so hopefully that will draw matters to a close, however, there are concerns as to whether this obviously unhinged individual will take heed of the police warning.

Various concerning stories have come to light over the past 24 hours (including this individual supposedly shooting a liveries horse) yet the police have advised this individual has no prior with them.

The latest victim (a friend who has granted me permission to post this) is obviously very concerned and beside themselves with worry.

This post isn't about wanting anyone to make a statement and put themselves in a difficult situation but more about the 'what next'. If you know this individual and had a similar experience, just how bad did it get, if at all - will it just blow over?

If you have any info, please pm me. All messages will be treated in the strictest of confidence.

Thanks in advance!

 

[TotalMadgeness]

When you say they take on liveries 'in the hope of developing a relationship', what do you mean? Sorry if I'm being thick just trying to understand...

 

[Lammy]

I live nearby to where your radius is. I know of a vile man who owns a yard and has liveries just one village above Whiston. Sounds like he works in a similar way to the man you describe, gets nasty when his advances are rejected.

But I don’t know that he owns any other land nearby that he rents out? Feel free to PM me as if it’s the same man then if you’re friend hasn’t left already then she really needs to.

 

[Apizz2019]

When you say they take on liveries 'in the hope of developing a relationship', what do you mean? Sorry if I'm being thick just trying to understand...

I didn't want to be blunt but he wants girlfriends, to have sex etc. He's not direct but that's what the end game is.

 

[Apizz2019]

I live nearby to where your radius is. I know of a vile man who owns a yard and has liveries just one village above Whiston. Sounds like he works in a similar way to the man you describe, gets nasty when his advances are rejected.

But I don’t know that he owns any other land nearby that he rents out? Feel free to PM me as if it’s the same man then if you’re friend hasn’t left already then she really needs to.

Thanks so much. I'll pm you.

 

[TotalMadgeness]

I didn't want to be blunt but he wants girlfriends, to have sex etc. He's not direct but that's what the end game is.

Yuk there are some seriously weird people about.

 

[Apizz2019]

Yuk there are some seriously weird people about.

Very and quite deranged and dangerous too, sadly.

 

[Regandal]

What a creep. I’d advise your friend to get out of there pronto.

 

[Apizz2019]

What a creep. I’d advise your friend to get out of there pronto.

She left this past weekend. Everything was fine, no issues at all, then the individual went nuclear.

 

[AmyMay]

Sounds just awful ?

 

[Apizz2019]

Sounds just awful ?

It's horrendous. I'm just trying to gather as much info as possible to help my friend. Forewarned is forearmed....

 

[shortstuff99]

There is a dodgy livery yards group on Facebook that might be worth posting on?

 

[Apizz2019]

There is a dodgy livery yards group on Facebook that might be worth posting on?

I have and have had a few pm's which have been most helpful.

 

[holeymoley]

Has this been posted on the dodgy livery yards page on faceache? I think I seen a very similiar post last week.

No advise though, other than to get yourself and horse out if there and hope that’s the last you hear of them.

 

[Apizz2019]

Has this been posted on the dodgy livery yards page on faceache? I think I seen a very similiar post last week.

No advise though, other than to get yourself and horse out if there and hope that’s the last you hear of them.

I posted this, this morning, on that page.

My friend has left already.

 

[Gloi]

I hope you can get the police to take proper notice of this. I've known it happen too but fortunately in my youth 40+ years ago.

 

[I'm Dun]

Is this the one with all the german shepherd dogs? If so, hes well known in the area of behaving badly unfortunately. I'd just get out and not go back.

 

[Apizz2019]

Is this the one with all the german shepherd dogs? If so, hes well known in the area of behaving badly unfortunately. I'd just get out and not go back.

Yes, I think we're thinking of the same individual, sadly.

My friend is out. All was okay but the trouble has started after her departure.

 

[Apizz2019]

I hope you can get the police to take proper notice of this. I've known it happen too but fortunately in my youth 40+ years ago.

I hope they do!

 

[I'm Dun]

Yes, I think we're thinking of the same individual, sadly.

My friend is out. All was okay but the trouble has started after her departure.

I had a lucky escape with him a few years back now. He is a very odd individual! The place is often empty for good reason. Your friend is the first time I've heard of it carrying on afterwards or there being a sexual element to it, so sounds like hes taken a shine to your friend and decided she might be vunerable enough to put up with it, or hes escalating his behaviour. I'm sorry this happened to her, but shes not the first person to have the wool pulled over her eyes and no doubt wont be the last sadly.

 

[Apizz2019]

I had a lucky escape with him a few years back now. He is a very odd individual! The place is often empty for good reason. Your friend is the first time I've heard of it carrying on afterwards or there being a sexual element to it, so sounds like hes taken a shine to your friend and decided she might be vunerable enough to put up with it, or hes escalating his behaviour. I'm sorry this happened to her, but shes not the first person to have the wool pulled over her eyes and no doubt wont be the last sadly.

I posted on a Facebook page earlier and I'm horrified by the messages I've received. It's far worse than this, although this is bad!

I think this individual has scared a lot of people into silence. Sad really as something needs to happen.

This individual is deranged and obviously thinks they're above the law!

Thank you - I hope it will end peacefully, although I'm not confident it will.

 

[lynz88]

Wow glad she got out but surprised it continued AFTER! some people have no shame. I hope she is able to "disappear" so he can't find her and/or the police take it seriously. Years ago my brothers landlady went crazy. It got so bad that she was stalking my brother and my mom and she even found me on FB and sent me a nasty message (not sure what the point of that was as I was living over here for over 8 months at that point).

 

[Sossigpoker]

How many more people need to be murdered by stalkers before the police do something?

 

[Apizz2019]

Wow glad she got out but surprised it continued AFTER! some people have no shame. I hope she is able to "disappear" so he can't find her and/or the police take it seriously. Years ago my brothers landlady went crazy. It got so bad that she was stalking my brother and my mom and she even found me on FB and sent me a nasty message (not sure what the point of that was as I was living over here for over 8 months at that point).

The irony is, everything was fine during her time there and even when she left.
But he went nuclear at her place of work 48 hours after.
Very scary!

 

[AmyMay]

The irony is, everything was fine during her time there and even when she left.
But he went nuclear at her place of work 48 hours after.
Very scary!

And he wasn’t arrested???

 

[Apizz2019]

How many more people need to be murdered by stalkers before the police do something?

I know right.

It's terrible and many think they're above the law, because in reality they actually are, or so it seems!

 

[Dave's Mam]

Blimey.

 

[lynz88]

The irony is, everything was fine during her time there and even when she left.
But he went nuclear at her place of work 48 hours after.
Very scary!

OMG! I have no words...really really hope this is taken seriously by police and that your friend stays safe.

 

[DSB]

There has just been a court case in Australia,the man was offering farm work to "backpackers",then pressuring them into having sex etc.The farm was remote,some girls had no means of escape.
he was found guilty,not sure if he has been sentanced yit.

 

[Apizz2019]

And he wasn’t arrested???

The police didn't respond to the 999 call as they were too busy.... Jokes on the victim it seems.

They didn't even go to his house either. They phoned him and told him to stay away.

Total joke!