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I just hate people! Posted by local rescue kennel :


After a great week or so of lots of re-homes our joy has been dashed by hearing this morning of a carrier bag full of young pups dumped in Whitchurch. There were 7 five of them are dead, the survivors are on their way to the vet now. Will update you all on the outcome, just one phone call could have given them a chance, so sad.

And an update :
Update on the pups. Sorry to say that they weren’t just dumped they were battered first, probably died of their injuries as well as exposure. The good news is that a lovely veterinary nurse who has experience and loves rearing babies now has them. One is damaged but the vet is hopeful that it will survive. Everyone cross everything please.
 
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MurphysMinder said:
I just hate people! Posted by local rescue kennel :


After a great week or so of lots of re-homes our joy has been dashed by hearing this morning of a carrier bag full of young pups dumped in Whitchurch. There were 7 five of them are dead, the survivors are on their way to the vet now. Will update you all on the outcome, just one phone call could have given them a chance, so sad.

And an update :
Update on the pups. Sorry to say that they weren’t just dumped they were battered first, probably died of their injuries as well as exposure. The good news is that a lovely veterinary nurse who has experience and loves rearing babies now has them. One is damaged but the vet is hopeful that it will survive. Everyone cross everything please.
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WTF is wrong with people. As I wasn't able to respond to the post with an angry emoji* here are some :mad:😠😡

*I have posted on the relevant thread requesting it's return!
 
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MurphysMinder said:
I just hate people! Posted by local rescue kennel :


After a great week or so of lots of re-homes our joy has been dashed by hearing this morning of a carrier bag full of young pups dumped in Whitchurch. There were 7 five of them are dead, the survivors are on their way to the vet now. Will update you all on the outcome, just one phone call could have given them a chance, so sad.

And an update :
Update on the pups. Sorry to say that they weren’t just dumped they were battered first, probably died of their injuries as well as exposure. The good news is that a lovely veterinary nurse who has experience and loves rearing babies now has them. One is damaged but the vet is hopeful that it will survive. Everyone cross everything please.
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Good grief!

What is wrong with people?
 
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Tiddlypom said:
What sort of financial support, and for what?
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"𝗪𝗲'𝗿𝗲 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗳𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗹𝗼𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝗫𝗟-𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗼𝘄𝗻𝗲𝗿𝘀. We understand this is an unsettling and difficult time for XL Bully owners
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We want to do all we can to help those who need financial assistance in caring for your XL Bully and taking the necessary steps in order to apply for exemption, to keep your XL's safe, happy and loved - as they deserve to be.
If you need financial support, we want to help - please contact us by emailing **************. Our funds are of course limited, so please get in touch soon to discuss the ways we can support you in the exemption application process. Thank you."
 
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oldandgold said:
This could very well have an effect on their donations - I would certainly think twice about donating to the RSPCA if they are going to be giving funds away for this
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It could also increase their donations. I think that as the majority of people on this post support the ban, there’s a tendency to forget that this forum isn’t necessarily representative of the wider world. Personally, I’m ardently against BSL, and my views seemingly align with those of the majority of dog charities. I’d be far more likely to donate to an organisation that shared my views, and I suspect I’m not the only person out there who thinks like that 🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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I find it disgustingly insensitive in the first instance, secondly they are condoning breeds that sometimes need armed police to despatch them once they have gone on a murdering spree and thirdly I would think the money could be better spent on helping animals in need from cruelty or neglect, which is what I expect most people donated it for in the first place.
 
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I doubt that even the wider and, dare I say it, ‘fluffier’ general public regard the imminent regulations regarding XL bullies as anything other than long overdue.

That local RSCA branch might attract a few donations from fur baby lovers, but most people will be delighted to see the last of the XL bully in any guise.

No owner is being forced to destroy their pet if it hasn’t already got form, all they have to do is to comply with the new rules. It would be a misuse of charity funds to help with that - and I’m one who usually stands up for the RSPCA on here, having fostered young ponies for them.
 
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Smitty said:
I find it disgustingly insensitive in the first instance, secondly they are condoning breeds that sometimes need armed police to despatch them once they have gone on a murdering spree and thirdly I would think the money could be better spent on helping animals in need from cruelty or neglect, which is what I expect most people donated it for in the first place.
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But it’s quite possible that some (if not many) of these dogs may be turfed out on to the street or given up by their owners and palmed off on many rescues. I suspect much of the initiative is to try and prevent that happening.
 
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Amymay in a manger said:
But it’s quite possible that some (if not many) of these dogs may be turfed out on to the street or given up by their owners and palmed off on many rescues. I suspect much of the initiative is to try and prevent that happening.
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Those are the owners who shouldn't have a dog in the first place.
 
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scats said:
God I hate people. Cottage bordering our farm has been turned into an Airbnb. This morning there were about 4 off lead dogs on our muck heap, in one of my grazing paddocks and on the path leading through the farm, and a group of about 6 people milling around, clearly lost.
I was a little way away so shouted them to put dogs on leads on the farm, but they just turned and walked off. Found out they had climbed over the ditch from the cottage (using a mounting block one of the ladies leaves around the farm ride in case she has to get off and back on again) and trespassed across our crop fields with their dogs.

And we’ve got another new neighbour on the lane who walks her spaniel off lead up the lane. It’s run infront of my car and a friends car and seems to have no recall. Then they roam around the farm. She has been told several times that she is trespassing if she leaves the footpath and that the dog should be on a lead through the farm, but she just smiles and says ok, then does the same the next day.
Head. Brick wall.
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I'd be very tempted to post dog faeces through the AirBnB's letter box. In the absence of the latter, an alternative might be a mini steeplechase of carefully-balanced dog poo . . .
 
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limestonelil said:
Slightly off topic. I've just realised how biased I am against the RSPCA these days, as AmyM's totally valid point hadn't even crossed my mind. The situation just seemed to validate my 'not giving them a donation any more ' attitude.
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I still harbour an absolute loathing of the RSPCA because of what happened to the Peel Arabian horses and sheep.
 
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Amymay in a manger said:
But it’s quite possible that some (if not many) of these dogs may be turfed out on to the street or given up by their owners and palmed off on many rescues. I suspect much of the initiative is to try and prevent that happening.
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I'm quite sure you are right, although I find it rather hipocritical as I have just tried to insure my (imaginary!!) XL bully with the RSPCA online and it didn't appear to be possible. I couldn't find an option either in pure bred or mixed breeds. Therefore, if these people who have shelled out heavens knows what money for these dogs now cant afford to neuter, register, microchip etc how are they going to afford a vets bills and a bit of third party insurance may be useful.

I just feel if the owners are prepared to dump or hand in a dog because of a bit of inconvenience the dog would be better off without them. Even if they get help this time round, what happens when they want to go on holiday and find kennels reluctant to take certain breeds.

As unpalatable as it may be, I believe the best solution is PTS for a number of these dogs.
 
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I agree that it would be better to help owners to keep dogs than end up with said dogs being let loose/abandoned, but these owners could also opt to PTS instead of abandoning (thinking along the lines that there are worse things than humane PTS); they would have had to PTS the dog at some point in it's life anyway so that is their financial responsibility. And are all the people who use schemes like the RSPCA's (or get costs covered via GoFundMe) going to follow the other rules (muzzle and lead) when they aren't taking responsibility for these bits (I realise some will do)?

Spaying isn't cheap so I wouldn't be opposed to financial help being available for that, but not for chipping (which - legally - should already have been done), third party insurance (which responsible members of the public should already have), or castration (as in the line of vet bills that you can expect as a normal dog owner male neutering isn't that expensive). But you could also argue that bitch owners should be prepared to possibly have to spay for health reasons at some point anyway.

The only completely unforeseen expense is registration of the dog as it will soon be a banned breed. The cost, however, is a one off fee of £92.40 (for one dog) which is an amount that dog owners should have available anyway (for vets fees). And it must cost a lot to feed a dog that size, making £92.40 not the biggest expense for the owners. How many of the people buying an XLB puppy now for £800+ (as currently advertised online) will then expect someone else/a charity to foot the bills for neutering/chipping/registration/etc? Very few of these dogs will have been bought cheaply as they have been status symbols

I don't want the dogs abandoned, or inhumanely killed, and PTS of healthy dogs if avoidable isn't great either. But it does seem to be yet another incident where grown adults expect someone else to be responsible for them, and/or someone else to pay for their hobby/lifestyle choices. I do feel that we (society) as a whole are taking less and less responsibility for ourselves and our choices, but this case is obviously complicated by there being an animal involved that can't look after itself.

Basically, there is probably no easy answer and I am conflicted on what I think is the 'right' thing to do, but I wish people would take responsibility for the animals they CHOSE to buy. There are lots of non-sentient things (as well as animals) in life that I would like to own, but I don't buy them as I can't comfortably afford to do so; people need to stop buying living things that they can't afford to keep and look after to a good standard (or aren't prepared to spend adequate time with/on).
 
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