AmyMay
Situation normal
Or dogs…..
Irresponsible Owners
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ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
You seem completely unaware that ewe could abort because of the stress of what happened to her on that video. That's why the farmer wanted his details, so he can make him pay if she does.
While you're here, what possible reason could anyone have had to "stage" it?
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bonny
Well-Known Member
Maybe Im just more cynical than you, I am suspicious of loads of social media clips, a lot of them, like this one don’t really add up.
if you believe that the farmer and the lone sheep happened to be there at the same time the man let his pit bull off the lead fair enough. Maybe ask why the farmer didn’t call the owner back or say anything at all until after the dog was back on a lead and leaving and why he posted his film with out identifying the dog owner. Or don’t, it’s not really of any importance what I or you think of some random video.
skinnydipper
Well-Known Member
The dog was not acting.
AmyMay
Situation normal
I think the point is, whether you believe the video is legit or not, farmers have to deal with situations like this day in, day out.
FestiveG
Over the hill and far awa
Neither was the ewe
Wishfilly
Well-Known Member
I don't think that video is staged- I've seen similar on Dartmoor unfortunately, and owners allowing their dogs to chase lambs, which worries me as they could end up separated from their mothers etc. This is including during times/in areas where dogs should be under "close control" or on lead due to ground nesting birds as well.
I can understand why the farmer wouldn't intervene- I wouldn't want to grab a strange dog of that size either. If he'd started arguing with the owner before he caught the dog, it delays the dog being caught so more risk to the sheep etc.
Also worth bearing in mind that mental distress is still "harm", even if the dog didn't bite, cornering the sheep and not letting it get away is clearly distressing- even without the risk of abortion.
I can understand why the farmer wouldn't intervene- I wouldn't want to grab a strange dog of that size either. If he'd started arguing with the owner before he caught the dog, it delays the dog being caught so more risk to the sheep etc.
Also worth bearing in mind that mental distress is still "harm", even if the dog didn't bite, cornering the sheep and not letting it get away is clearly distressing- even without the risk of abortion.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Exactly.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
Oh Bonny. I doubt very much that was a lone sheep, it was just the one that dog managed to corner and the others ran to the other side of the field safely out of the way.
People let their dogs do things like that all the time, it wouldn't take any sheep farmer in the country long to get pictures of an incident like that. I have a personal friend who has shot three dogs that I know of, probably more. I've personally seen dogs worrying sheep. It happens constantly.
I wouldn't have approached that dog, or its owner. It would take a brave or stupid person to do that.
Why do you have such a desperate seeming need to believe that the video isn't genuine ?
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SaddlePsych'D
Well-Known Member
A local FB group near me (sort of) has had multiple sheep-keepers posting about dog attacks in the area. One with really graphic pictures of the injuries to the sheep. Hard to see but I support them in sharing because it is just not okay for things like this to happen once let alone repeatedly. Based on this, and my general lack of faith in a large proportion of dog owners, I have no doubt about the authenticity of that video. Also can't understand why go to that level of trouble to stage it.
Christmascinnamoncookie
Fais pas chier!
Clearly your fault (not)! I'm afraid I'd have booted her dog. What an idiot.That sheep video is disgusting.. how he plods over with no care in the world. Looks like a XL bully?
Dog owners make me mad on a daily basis!
I have 4 dogs, 3 spaniels and a lab. All working so have a pretty spot on recall and never bother any other dogs.
I’ve had 2 incidents in the last couple of days, mine casually hunting about as spaniels do and dogs bolting the length of the field to see them. Owners had 0 control, one time mine were on the lead, dog bolted over just as I got onto the pavement to cross the road and owner shouted ‘he’s scared and not good with other dogs’
Another lady, big open space and a large dog. Hers off lead as were all 3 of mine but all totally ignoring her dog sniffing in the hedges. Her dog ran up to mine, she started panic calling it, one of my spaniels sniffed tail wagging, happy. Her dog instantly went for him, mine cowered so I recalled him and her dog chased him and did it again. She is still panic calling it, dog totally ignoring her. I suggested if it isn’t friendly or doesn’t have a recall it shouldn’t be off lead. The best response yet ‘it’s your fault because you have a pack and he lives alone’?!
I use to bite my tongue, but recently it’s got worse. So many people own dogs and don’t do any training or understand them, my partners dad caught a collie chasing his pregnant ewes this week and the owners attitude was ‘well he shouldn’t be able to get in the field’
Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
Bonny that comment shows a staggering lack of knowledge .
Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
I would not have grabbed that dog either the farmer was sensible and so was the sheep I am not sure how the farmer kept so calm talking to that ignorant entitled prat.
Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
It’s also staggering that people show so little concern for what might happen to their dogs my dogs are sheep proof and I could walk them at heel through sheep but I would not dream of doing that I put them on the lead .
cauda equina
Well-Known Member
I suppose if you think that dogs are 'allowed to run free on the hills' it wouldn't occur to you that someone might shoot them - after all it wasn't doing any harm 
Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
That dog is being failed by its owner .
cauda equina
Well-Known Member
I expect that particular owner fails at a lot of things
Pearlsacarolsinger
Up in the clouds
We no longer take our dogs to the busy Country park where we used to go because we have had a few incidents which have made our young brown Lab reactive. Idiots bringing their dogs to "talk" to ours when they are sitting, on leads at our feet while we eat, then nearer home a couple of incidents as we were returning from our walks within sight of home sitting out of the way to allow other dogs and owners to pass when the dogs were allowed/encouraged to approach aggressively. We prefer to hire a secure dog field where we know ours will be the only dogs there. I do miss Saturday's 'all day breakfast' Al fresco lunch though.One of mine is lead reactive due to being attacked while on the lead by an aggressive GSP that escaped from a car at the vets and set straight into him. So sad how it changed him, fine off lead but terrified on lead now.
He dealt with the situation I explained above very well considering!
oldandgold
Well-Known Member
If the dog was a pitbull as you say then it should have been muzzled and on the lead.
Smitty
Well-Known Member
It would be nice to feel safe out walking. I don't recollect dog attacks like this years ago, but then again I don't recollect dogs like this. The poor lady had nowhere to go, and as for the passers by who waded in to help, they truly were heros.
cauda equina
Well-Known Member
Poor woman, and poor little dog
I feel so sad for them both
I feel so sad for them both
skinnydipper
Well-Known Member
Poor little dog.
I thought that looked like an American bulldog, could be wrong.
I thought that looked like an American bulldog, could be wrong.
Goldenstar
Well-Known Member
That was grim .
There no way the woman should have been walking that dog on the street she had no control at all of where they went .
Thats what the American bulldog I knew was like with other dogs not protective of it owner just dog aggressive .
It got a JR a which did just about survive .
There no way the woman should have been walking that dog on the street she had no control at all of where they went .
Thats what the American bulldog I knew was like with other dogs not protective of it owner just dog aggressive .
It got a JR a which did just about survive .
limestonelil
Well-Known Member
Wasn't sure which thread to use. I've just read about 4 adult XL bullies needing urgent rehoming from Scotland, before 23rd February deadline. Neutered, chipped, healthy, enhanced behavioural checks done on these lovely dogs. Owners? SSPCA.
Isn't a main problem that you don't know if or when this breed flips? Seems totally irresponsible.
Isn't a main problem that you don't know if or when this breed flips? Seems totally irresponsible.
paddy555
Well-Known Member
not sure why this affects me more than the endless people killed.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Horror as 'XL Bully' mauls horse and cart in savage attack
EXCLUSIVE: Karl Canwell was walking his driving horse Doris and cart through Broxbourne Park, in Hertfordshire, when the unleashed beast suddenly ran up to his animal.
cauda equina
Well-Known Member
'My son went out of his way to tell the police that the man had broken the law under the dangerous dog act by having his XL Bully off his leash, still they do not believe a crime was committed. The man has still been seen walking his dog elsewhere!'
What is wrong with the police?
Even without the recent legislation around bullies that's obviously a dog dangerously out of control in a public place which has been an offence for decades
What is wrong with the police?
Even without the recent legislation around bullies that's obviously a dog dangerously out of control in a public place which has been an offence for decades
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
Scrolling down there was a 35 year old man mauled to death by his own pit bulls, it seems there were 5 adults plus puppies. Police have impounded the dogs pending investigations, surely they should all be PTS
Smitty
Well-Known Member
I think that is in America but I am with you on the PTS. I have no idea why these antisocial dogs are being housed at the taxpayers expense when IMO they should be destroyed.
That poor poor horse and her poor owners. Shame on the police and the dog's "owner" who abandoned the dog and hid in a pub.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
Sorry I should have said it’s in America but even so a pack of dogs killing a man still should be PTS as far as I’m concerned
Clodagh
Well-Known Member
The dog walker who was killed last year, there was much outrage at all the dogs being impounded. Is this not the same thing? It’s US so no banned breed involved, legally I guess they have to try to find which dog did it.