splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
My terriers are 6.4 kg and 7.6kg and my lurcher is 16kg so none of them would do well if attacked, mine are all friendly and wouldn’t expect an attack. I think it’s worse being on here and seeing all these posts .
Irresponsible Owners
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Clodagh
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I think social media exists sometimes to cause stress and worry. I would not open this thread if it is impacting your dog walk enjoyment.
TheresaW
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I’m lucky that when I walk alone, I see someone maybe 3 or 4 times a year. Rest of time I’m with OH or friends.
SilverLinings
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Compared to the total number of dogs in the UK the number of dogs attacked seriously by other dogs I should think is extremely low. I've owned dogs for ~25yrs as an adult, and we had family dogs when I was a child. If you leave out playing that's got out of hand, or one-off snapping of teeth, or warning growls/nips/lunging etc then I've only witnessed first hand 3 proper dog 'attacks' (i.e. innocent victim dog attacked by aggressor dog with intent to injure or kill, very difficult to stop the aggressor). One was the XLB that attacked another XLB that I posted on the other thread earlier this year, the other two both happened to the same one of my dogs, ~10yrs apart, with different aggressors.
I haven't avoided other dogs, I've been to many local dog shows, agility competitions, training, shoots, they were regularly taken to a relatively busy beach, and that's still only three incidences. Even by word of mouth I've only heard of about five (none died), and not all the 'victims' were small dogs, they included two labradors and a springer spaniel.
I do watch the behaviour of other dogs in the vicinity, and I would avoid getting close to XLBs after my recent experience, but I think the likelihood of a dog I was walking being attacked is low. It is always good to be aware of your surroundings, but I think the risk for all/most of us on here is fairly low and (to be blunt) there are far more things that are likely to kill one's dog prematurely than another dog.
I'm not ignoring the severity of the attacks, and I think the owners of aggressive dogs should be penalised far more heavily. I don't think though that people should let reading the small number of stories about attacks spoil their enjoyment of their own dogs.
I haven't avoided other dogs, I've been to many local dog shows, agility competitions, training, shoots, they were regularly taken to a relatively busy beach, and that's still only three incidences. Even by word of mouth I've only heard of about five (none died), and not all the 'victims' were small dogs, they included two labradors and a springer spaniel.
I do watch the behaviour of other dogs in the vicinity, and I would avoid getting close to XLBs after my recent experience, but I think the likelihood of a dog I was walking being attacked is low. It is always good to be aware of your surroundings, but I think the risk for all/most of us on here is fairly low and (to be blunt) there are far more things that are likely to kill one's dog prematurely than another dog.
I'm not ignoring the severity of the attacks, and I think the owners of aggressive dogs should be penalised far more heavily. I don't think though that people should let reading the small number of stories about attacks spoil their enjoyment of their own dogs.
Caol Ila
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Dugs of Mugdock:
Today's winner goes to the owner of a black labrador. I joined a trail at a t-junction to see the off-lead lab and its owner going one way, and an on-lead dauschund and its owner going the other way. The lab charged up to the dauschund, which was clearly quite reactive and upset by this. It was growling and yelping and howling, making Godawful noises. The lab wasn't aggressive, just bolshy and stupid and overly friendly, and the little dog didn't like it. The little old lady with the dauschund was doing her best to put herself between the lab and her dog. The lab's owner kept calling it, to no avail. I stopped my horse, thinking, "Great, this thing has nothing resembling recall." The lab owner caught up to the dauschund and his dog and then herded the lab away. It trotted off, but he did not leash it. However, it had zero interest in my horse and trotted by us. Lucky me. Not so lucky dauschund owner. I can't imagine she was impressed.
The runner up goes to the couple with the German shepherd who were wandering aimlessly in the trees on the same trails as me. They were kind of trying to avoid me, and I was trying to avoid them, often by stopping and letting Hermosa graze so they could get some distance. But they kept circling around and ending up on the trail I was on. I didn't get a good feeling from this dog. I dunno... Anyway, I ended up closer than I wanted, with the damned dog eyeing us up, and I said, "Can you put a lead on it, please?"
"We don't have a lead," they said. "He doesn't need one."
Aye right, he doesn't. Who the f()78ck doesn't even carry a lead?? You never know who or what you may encounter. TBH, if they'd walked straight by me in a nonchalant way with their dog looking super focused on them (or at least not focused on my horse), which happens a lot, I would not have thought anything of it, but the dog wasn't that focused on them, and they kept trying to avoid me and looked concerned. Which suggests that if they are walking in a park heavily used by horses, he does need a bloody lead!
In third place, we have the owner of the overweight Jack Russell. The wee dog took off towards us, with the owner legging it after him. I reined in Hermosa and we stood waiting, like, "Really, dude?"
The eejits were out in force the night. A sunny evening brings all the rockets to the park.
Today's winner goes to the owner of a black labrador. I joined a trail at a t-junction to see the off-lead lab and its owner going one way, and an on-lead dauschund and its owner going the other way. The lab charged up to the dauschund, which was clearly quite reactive and upset by this. It was growling and yelping and howling, making Godawful noises. The lab wasn't aggressive, just bolshy and stupid and overly friendly, and the little dog didn't like it. The little old lady with the dauschund was doing her best to put herself between the lab and her dog. The lab's owner kept calling it, to no avail. I stopped my horse, thinking, "Great, this thing has nothing resembling recall." The lab owner caught up to the dauschund and his dog and then herded the lab away. It trotted off, but he did not leash it. However, it had zero interest in my horse and trotted by us. Lucky me. Not so lucky dauschund owner. I can't imagine she was impressed.
The runner up goes to the couple with the German shepherd who were wandering aimlessly in the trees on the same trails as me. They were kind of trying to avoid me, and I was trying to avoid them, often by stopping and letting Hermosa graze so they could get some distance. But they kept circling around and ending up on the trail I was on. I didn't get a good feeling from this dog. I dunno... Anyway, I ended up closer than I wanted, with the damned dog eyeing us up, and I said, "Can you put a lead on it, please?"
"We don't have a lead," they said. "He doesn't need one."
Aye right, he doesn't. Who the f()78ck doesn't even carry a lead?? You never know who or what you may encounter. TBH, if they'd walked straight by me in a nonchalant way with their dog looking super focused on them (or at least not focused on my horse), which happens a lot, I would not have thought anything of it, but the dog wasn't that focused on them, and they kept trying to avoid me and looked concerned. Which suggests that if they are walking in a park heavily used by horses, he does need a bloody lead!
In third place, we have the owner of the overweight Jack Russell. The wee dog took off towards us, with the owner legging it after him. I reined in Hermosa and we stood waiting, like, "Really, dude?"
The eejits were out in force the night. A sunny evening brings all the rockets to the park.
Smitty
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A friend didnt have a lead a couple of months ago in some woods. She had to borrow mine when another dog came along! She kept her dog on it and I was wondering what would happen if I nedded to put mine on ... 
Goldenstar
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Who walks their dog off their own property with out a lead ?
Why do some owners thing that their dog being extremely friendly is an excuse for it to do what it wants ?
Why the hooting heck do people get a Labrador dog and then fail to take the trouble to train ?
Why can’t people see the world through a tiny dogs eyes for thirty seconds ?
It’s just bemuses me .
Why do some owners thing that their dog being extremely friendly is an excuse for it to do what it wants ?
Why the hooting heck do people get a Labrador dog and then fail to take the trouble to train ?
Why can’t people see the world through a tiny dogs eyes for thirty seconds ?
It’s just bemuses me .
ArklePig
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I've noticed a real trend for dogs off lead lately,I think I posted here about nearly hitting an Akita walking next to an a road recently. The other day I saw someone walking a lab off lead down Oxford Street in Belfast which is I think 4 lanes of traffic and a main bus route 
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
I used to meet loads of people at the beach with no leashes on them.
Agree sunshine = melts.
I've just been taking young dog to the green and throwing food for her on the teatime walk as A) all the melts are out B) the farmer has put cows back in the big field and I can't be arsed running the gauntlet. Of melts.
Agree sunshine = melts.
I've just been taking young dog to the green and throwing food for her on the teatime walk as A) all the melts are out B) the farmer has put cows back in the big field and I can't be arsed running the gauntlet. Of melts.
blackcob
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They don’t need a lead as they pull up to these places, open the boot and let the dog hurtle out and do what it likes for an hour, then let it mooch around the car park dodging moving vehicles before they manage to wrestle it back in, and drive home considering it a job well done and what a lovely day they’ve had.
maisie06
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Caol Ila
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The park has done a good job of putting up little signs everywhere saying they're multi-use trails and to look out for horses, bikes, dog walkers, kids, etc. I've seen fewer out of control dogs since they did that.
Yesterday, Hermosa and I were in the park circa 7pm, along with all the 'melts' as CorvusCorax put it. These eejits probably thought, "Oh, it's late, the park will be quiet. I don't need to control my dog." Except it wasn't quiet.
Yesterday, Hermosa and I were in the park circa 7pm, along with all the 'melts' as CorvusCorax put it. These eejits probably thought, "Oh, it's late, the park will be quiet. I don't need to control my dog." Except it wasn't quiet.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
On my walk this morning, saw a poo type thing on a flexi lead, so being polite I put my 3 on lead to walk past… man just let the poo thing clamber all over mine without pulling it away , it was about 10 feet away from him at the end of the flexi lead, felt like explaining to him what dog etiquette is but didn’t want a tow so walked on seething. My dogs were not happy as they couldn’t get away from it …. I was not happy either!!!!
AmyMay
Situation normal
I can’t understand why people don’t say something in these situations
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Sun's out, lots of dogs out, managed fine apart from one woman (never seen her before, obviously a fairweather walker) who allowed her offlead terrier to charge up barking, managed to reel mine in quickly and get through a gap in the hedge and ply her with food before she kicked off too much back.
Her: 'It's alright, she won't do anything'
Me: MINE WILL!
Heard her calling the dog several more times and saw her later with it in her arms, obviously one of the great leadless.
Her: 'It's alright, she won't do anything'
Me: MINE WILL!
Heard her calling the dog several more times and saw her later with it in her arms, obviously one of the great leadless.
blackcob
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Didn't see a soul on my favourite out of town non-melt-friendly walk today. They've moved the sheep (yay!) but sprayed a load of slurry (boo!) which may have had something to do with it.
And yes, the eternal cry - "he's friendly!" - "WE'RE NOT."
And yes, the eternal cry - "he's friendly!" - "WE'RE NOT."
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
I can’t understand why people don’t say something in these situations
I didn’t want to have an argument over something like that. If it had been an aggressive dog I would have been more proactive, this was an older chap and I saw no point in getting myself wound up. When I was younger I was very quick to explode but now I am old I keep quiet and walk on..
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
I'm getting bolder as I get older 
SaddlePsych'D
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I pick my moments as generally I don't want to get into it. In general I just focus on my dog and if I see another coming in too quickly focus on fending it off and not waste time on 'can you call your dog' because it's usually too late by then. Once that has been achieved I just walk on and don't really acknowledge the other owner because I cba with the hassle. The only times I've really got into it is when the other owner has given my grief, like the dog walker who got shirty when I said 'that's not okay' as her pack of off lead dogs surrounded Ivy and the guy who told me I need to know how to react around other dogs when his French BS (bulldog) pulled the extendable lead out of his hands and would not back off until I grabbed the trailing lead. I can understand a lone female not wanting to get into it with a male.
Not much to report here for a while, though that will change with the good weather I expect. We did dodge an XL bully on our way home this eve. It was muzzled and on extendable lead, but fighting the muzzle and owner didn't seem to have much control with the lead situation. Given previously mentioned experience of a French bulldog getting loose of an extendable lead, I don't hold out much hope should this dog decide to 'go'.
Not much to report here for a while, though that will change with the good weather I expect. We did dodge an XL bully on our way home this eve. It was muzzled and on extendable lead, but fighting the muzzle and owner didn't seem to have much control with the lead situation. Given previously mentioned experience of a French bulldog getting loose of an extendable lead, I don't hold out much hope should this dog decide to 'go'.
Smitty
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Irresponsible Farmers: Can you please keep your sheep under close control and ensure that they do not chase walkers and their on lead dogs 
Small field with footpath through, saw sheep and clipped training lead onto collar as well as harness as a precaution. Dog spent most of its time trying to eat sheep poo, I spent most of mine dragging dog and trying to fend off the attentions of 3 very persistent sheep.
Small field with footpath through, saw sheep and clipped training lead onto collar as well as harness as a precaution. Dog spent most of its time trying to eat sheep poo, I spent most of mine dragging dog and trying to fend off the attentions of 3 very persistent sheep.
Goldenstar
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Because more often than not you would get a mouthful .I can’t understand why people don’t say something in these situations
I also think it helps your dog if you never engage with the problem person with the problem dog apart from please get your dog away type communications.
I think it clearer to your dog what’s required if you don’t engage .
Clodagh
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Next doors pet lambs are free range in their farmyard, which straddles the road. I came back from my walk yesterday with 5 bemused dogs, 3 lambs and a collie.Irresponsible Farmers: Can you please keep your sheep under close control and ensure that they do not chase walkers and their on lead dogs
Small field with footpath through, saw sheep and clipped training lead onto collar as well as harness as a precaution. Dog spent most of its time trying to eat sheep poo, I spent most of mine dragging dog and trying to fend off the attentions of 3 very persistent sheep.
poiuytrewq
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You know I've thought the same thing. I've never even really thought of my dogs getting attacked, now i do.
A big (like weirdly huge) lab lunged at us this week luckily mine and this other walkers were all on leads but i did have a
moment briefly as it looked like it meant it and she was having a bit of trouble holding onto him.
Janique
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We had a terrible story in the papers here in Switzerland.
Never heard of anything like it...
A 60 years old woman rescued a young American bulli, he was supposed to be pts in France but she wanted to save him....
He turned nasty on her and in order to save her life, she had to strangle him... In the fight, she managed to make a tourniquet
with a scarf and a metal bar or something like that.
The case went to court and she was not charged, she saved her own life and had no choice, however, she isn't hallowed to have animals anymore.
Stupid woman, why oh why rescue such a dog....
Never heard of anything like it...
A 60 years old woman rescued a young American bulli, he was supposed to be pts in France but she wanted to save him....
He turned nasty on her and in order to save her life, she had to strangle him... In the fight, she managed to make a tourniquet
with a scarf and a metal bar or something like that.
The case went to court and she was not charged, she saved her own life and had no choice, however, she isn't hallowed to have animals anymore.
Stupid woman, why oh why rescue such a dog....
Jenko109
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How on earth did she manage to fashion that together while being mauled!?
Do you have a link to the article?
Do you have a link to the article?
Janique
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Une Vaudoise a étranglé son chien pour se «sauver la vie»
Une femme de 60 ans sera jugée à Yverdon pour avoir tué son molosse. Elle plaide la légitime défense.par
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L’animal étranglé était un amstaff.
Wikipédia
Une Vaudoise de 60 ans sera jugée le 4 avril à Yverdon pour avoir tué son chien, qui l’agressait. Selon elle, c’était de la légitime défense.
Les faits ont eu lieu en juillet 2021. La Vaudoise avait récupéré cinq semaines auparavant en France un amstaff (american staffordshire terrier) de 2 ans et demi. Le jeune molosse était difficile à maîtriser s’il croisait d’autres chiens – il avait probablement servi d’«appât» lors de combats de chiens, relate le «Matin Dimanche».
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Le jour du drame, le chien a entendu des aboiements et, frustré de ne pas pouvoir sortir de l’appartement, il s’est jeté sur sa propriétaire, selon son témoignage.
«Triste d’en être arrivée là»
La Vaudoise dit s’être mise en boule au sol et s’est défendue en mordant son animal de 30 kilos. Elle a perdu deux dents. Selon elle, son amstaff était impossible à calmer et continuait de la mordre, aux bras et à la tête. La femme a alors réussi à s’emparer d’une écharpe et a étranglé à mort son molosse.«Je suis tellement triste d’en être arrivée là même si je sais que je n’ai fait que sauver ma vie», raconte-t-elle dans le «Matin Dimanche». «Je n’ai fait que me défendre, j’ai clairement pensé que ma dernière heure était arrivée.»
La Vaudoise est poursuivie pour infraction à la loi fédérale sur la protection des animaux. Le Parquet requiert une peine pécuniaire avec sursis, une amende de 300 francs et le paiement des frais de justice. La justice tranchera le 4 avril.
Sorry, that's in French, he was an two and half year old Amstaff and used for dog fighting, he was agressive when meeting other dog and difficult to control.
She had him 5 weeks and hearing some dogs barking outside, he got frustrated and wanted to go out, she closed all doors and windows as he might have jumped out,
he got out of control and went for her.
She strangled him with a scarf, it was him or me she said.
She will have to pay CHF 3000.- and all the court fees and never have animals again.
scats
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Another dog attack locally yesterday. Two riders from my friends yard were hacking at the shore and attacked by a dog. Horses bitten on their legs, one threw the rider and bolted home. The rider needed hospital treatment. Owner of dog just clipped it on lead and ran, though someone got her photo and she has very distinctive hair so hopefully she will be recognised.
Crugeran Celt
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Having a lovely walk along a beach in Pembrokshire with my sprocker, minding our own business, Daisy splashing in the sea when i hear a woman shouting 'this way, this way as she ran in the opposite direction to her greyhound/large whippet who was making a very speedy run at Daisy. When it reached us it attacked Daisy, growling and biting at her. Owner still running in opposite direction shouting 'this way'. i confess to giving it a slap on the shoulder with the lead and it backed off. At this point there was a fair distance between owner and dog. i was furious. As we walked up the beach she was allowing the dog, now on an extending lead to
'play' with another dog who was with a family with a small child, dog still growling and snappy while wrapping itself around the child. Just unbelievable
'play' with another dog who was with a family with a small child, dog still growling and snappy while wrapping itself around the child. Just unbelievable
pinkfluffy
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Hope Daisy is ok. The amount of people who can't/won't control their dogs is unbelievable.
Goldenstar
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People are just out to lunch what wrong with them