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I hope the owner has twigged that leads only work when you hang onto the other end!
I actually did sort of look for them, I hope they were ok. They must have bolted, worried that I was going to have a go. There have been fb reports of a Black and Tan dog attacking others (my phone will capitalise Black and Tan!) so I thought maybe it was that one. Who knows!
 

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I'm only tentatively putting this here as I think it was just a bit of an unexpected situation and the owner did apologise profusely.

At agility class and there is a dog in class that I think we have been in class with just once before.

We go to walk a course and the owner leaves her dog in a stay. I keep my dog with me on a lead to walk.

My dog does not always have the best energy and gives her dog a brief anxious stare as we walk past. Her dog decides it does not like the energy and releases itself from a stay to rush my dog.

I can't even accurately describe what happened as it was over so quickly. No fight broke out but her dog was completely in my dogs face and she was uncomfortable enough that I think she would have instigated a fight, had it continued.

I probably didnt help matters as I took a panicked grab of the lead which probably just made my dog more anxious about the situation 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

She has been doing so well with her reactivity so I am just praying this has not set her back.
 

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Something in the water at the moment :confused:

So I took my two sighthounds out for a walk on lead. They are not reactive dogs 99.9% of the time.

However on this walk, there was a woman with a chihuahua stood with her dog at the school gate, tucked just out of view so you could not see her stood there until we were literally right next to her. So my dogs end up right next to her dog and her dog goes bat shit. My lurcher took umbridge at this unexpected barrage of abuse and had a bit of a bark back. Nothing major and we continue on with our walk.

So I figure the next dog we see I will create a bit of space so we finish the walk on a good note. So I see a man walking a Labrador ahead of us. So I stop and go to cross the road, waiting for a gap in the traffic. It could not be more abundantly clear that I was trying to create some space, however there is lots of traffic so I am having to wait. What does he do? He just keeps walking at us. Thankfully my two were absolutely fine and paid little to no attention to his dog, however it really is not the point. Have people no regard for others? If I spot someone on our walks who is trying to cross the road to create space, I stop. I put my dogs in a sit and I allow them the time they need to do what they need to do to make their dog comfortable.

Finally we are on the road towards home and the bin men are collecting the glass and green waste. They happen to dump a load of glass into the bin just as we are walking past and it startles my whippet. I appreciate that this is not their problem and they need to do their job, however one bloke then proceeds to drag one of the bins directly behind us. He can see my whippet is frightened, yet continues to add to his anxiety rather than just stop for 5 seconds to let me get out of the way. Again, I appreciate they are only doing their job, however i fail to see that they cannot afford me a few seconds.
 

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I’ve had to report the off lead and unmuzzled XL bully to the police once again. Nothing has been done. I couldn’t have given them more info if I’d tried- names, address… I did their police work for them.

I spoke to my brother (in police but a specialised unit so he has nothing to do with these issues) and I explained as have been ignored. He told me to quote a specific operation name, which I have, and that seems to have generated some interest because somebody actually contacted me for more information this time. The same information they have been given countless times.

A neighbour contacted the local police helpline about this dog as her son was too frightened to walk to the bus stop as the dog was dragging the owner about on the lane every morning when he walked past. The police told her that “we can’t act until it attacks someone”, which is utter rubbish and a downright disgraceful thing to say.
I have always tried to stick up for the police, but frankly I am sick of their incompetence.

I’m starting to wonder if the XL bully’s owners have a police connection and are being ‘ignored’ on purpose.
I'd be getting in touch with the chief constable, local police and crime comissioner and local MP.....plus keeping a diary and god forbid something does happen I'd give the media the lot,
 

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Something in the water at the moment :confused:

So I took my two sighthounds out for a walk on lead. They are not reactive dogs 99.9% of the time.

However on this walk, there was a woman with a chihuahua stood with her dog at the school gate, tucked just out of view so you could not see her stood there until we were literally right next to her. So my dogs end up right next to her dog and her dog goes bat shit. My lurcher took umbridge at this unexpected barrage of abuse and had a bit of a bark back. Nothing major and we continue on with our walk.

So I figure the next dog we see I will create a bit of space so we finish the walk on a good note. So I see a man walking a Labrador ahead of us. So I stop and go to cross the road, waiting for a gap in the traffic. It could not be more abundantly clear that I was trying to create some space, however there is lots of traffic so I am having to wait. What does he do? He just keeps walking at us. Thankfully my two were absolutely fine and paid little to no attention to his dog, however it really is not the point. Have people no regard for others? If I spot someone on our walks who is trying to cross the road to create space, I stop. I put my dogs in a sit and I allow them the time they need to do what they need to do to make their dog comfortable.

Finally we are on the road towards home and the bin men are collecting the glass and green waste. They happen to dump a load of glass into the bin just as we are walking past and it startles my whippet. I appreciate that this is not their problem and they need to do their job, however one bloke then proceeds to drag one of the bins directly behind us. He can see my whippet is frightened, yet continues to add to his anxiety rather than just stop for 5 seconds to let me get out of the way. Again, I appreciate they are only doing their job, however i fail to see that they cannot afford me a few seconds.
I must admit it wouldn’t occur to me to not walk past someone waiting to cross the road. I’d have kept my dogs away but I would have walked past you.
And bin men have such a lot to get through they can’t really work silently or keep still every time they see an animal. Mine are great with horses, which is all I ask.
 

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I must admit it wouldn’t occur to me to not walk past someone waiting to cross the road. I’d have kept my dogs away but I wouldn’t have walked past you.
And bin men have such a lot to get through they can’t really work silently or keep still every time they see an animal. Mine are great with horses, which is all I ask.
I completely agree.
 

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Perhaps I am just a bit over sensitive. I do have a reactive dog (albeit not these two that were on the walk) who I am always mindful of her space. I guess the bloke may well have just seen two completely calm dogs and thought nothing of it.

Not going to be able to agree on the binmen though. He was clearly frightened and we only needed a second of let up. I guess that's the nature of going out during rush hour when the rest of the public exist.

All peace was restored at lunch time though. We drove out to the golf course and managed a beautiful hour without seeing anybody.


I'll stop being wet now. Sorry HHO.
 

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I had an oral assessment today and had to wear full suit as if I was going to court. on the street outside I got jumped up on with no warning by a very wiggly cocker spaniel who left some lovely paw prints on my trousers. The owner gave a very half hearted apology. I had to go in to my assessment and say something along the lines of 'apologies for my appearance your worship I got accosted by a dog outside' i couldnt just ignore it. doesn't help that I know the examiner playing the judge and he knows I have a dog and probably thinks I'm a dirt bird who didn't wash her suit 😭😭

I love wiggly spaniels, obviously, but I do try to keep mine from jumping up on people particularly ladies in nice outfits 😂😂 HONESTLY why do these things always happen to me. I'll laugh about it when I get my marks back.
 

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I had an idyllic walk, 4 miles and one other person and dog, an elderly Patterdale with a muzzle. We both put on leads and it sort of made a kind of rumbling sound as it passed us, years ago it would probably have been a scary growl 😂
 

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So. Just been to my hairdresser and her daughter is walking around with a bandaged leg and on a crutch.

She was playing in a communal garden at a friends with a group of other 8-10yo children.

One of the children from one of the properties had been left home alone with a spaniel who had had puppies four days prior. The child was eight.

The child went into the house and got a puppy to bring down to show the rest of the children and in doing so, let the dam loose.

The dam then bit three of the children in the communal garden. Two on antibiotics and one (my hairdressers daughter) has needed surgery due to the level of infection.

I am gobsmacked.
That’s appalling, on all counts. 🤬Where’s the bloody angry emoji when you need it!
Bit raging, the owner of a red collie that has had beef with my old dog since an incident when we moved here almost ten years ago, was so busy on her phone that she allowed it (on leash!) to come around behind my (now elderly) dog and snap at him from the rear, I actually felt it brush my legs, shady little coward would never bite from the front. No word of apology, just 'Dog'sName Dog'sName Dog'sName'.

She got a very loud "REALLY??" from me.
That was extremely restrained of you. I fear my feet would have been involved.
 

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That was extremely restrained of you. I fear my feet would have been involved.

It's an old, lame, overweight dog, not his fault he's badly handled, and her dad and my best friend's dad are good mates, if that makes sense 😂 she doesn't know the connection but I couldn't really be arsed getting into a barney.
 

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I'd be getting in touch with the chief constable, local police and crime comissioner and local MP.....plus keeping a diary and god forbid something does happen I'd give the media the lot,

Once again, as soon as I gave the name of the dogs owner to the police, the police go quiet and no action gets taken. I can’t help but feel there’s a family connection somewhere.
The owner is actually pregnant at the moment. As much as I love XL bully’s, I hope they will be sensible with the baby around it.
 

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Once again, as soon as I gave the name of the dogs owner to the police, the police go quiet and no action gets taken. I can’t help but feel there’s a family connection somewhere.
The owner is actually pregnant at the moment. As much as I love XL bully’s, I hope they will be sensible with the baby around it.
That’s a worry 😢
 

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It was a completely different situation, but when I had trouble getting a police call handler to take an incident seriously I did end up explaining that if somebody drowned or was injured as a result of them ignoring my call, I would be contacting the papers to make it clear that the situation was reported that people were endangered and no action was taken. I got a crime number. Social media is much more powerful now than it was then and possibly a similar statement, made calmly, will produce a result about loose xl bullies?

As part of that call, the call handler made the entirely serious suggestion that I should visit an illegal rave site where there was plenty of alcohol being consumed, and very likely drugs, as a lone female, out in the countryside, to speak to the organisers 😲
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Walking the dogs early this morning and went through a somewhat residential area and ran into 2 Dobermans. The owner had them out front, loose, even though they have a fenced back area. They did have e-collars on but all those did was make the dogs make all sorts of noises as they blew through them. We've met these 2 before and thankfully they just sniff around. This time they came nose to nose with my two and it was a "Jesus take the wheel" moment because what am I going to do if it kicks off with 2 Dobermans, a Cane Corso, and a Labrador. 🙄 Mine are well socialized and do listen to me, but a dog fight is a whole 'nother thing.

My two just stayed in heel but when one of the Dobermans started making noise because it was being continously zapped one of mine did get vocal for a sec.

The woman seemed annoyed that I had the audacity to walk by and disturb things. On a public road. Where other people walk. I saw another couple walking there with a giant stick twice now, and I think I know why. I know another woman that does this since she's terrified of dogs.

We saw another loose dog down another lane, and he looked at us and watched as we went by, but he didn't approach us.

We generally walk the more rural route, and our immediate neighbors aren't bad, but it's a toss up with the other neighborhood.
 

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Don't know if this works. I know nothing about the pros and cons of any dog trainer, including this one, but this ought to be a public service announcement imo.
It is quite worrying that a lot of the comments next to that video disagree with it. There are many comments saying that dogs *need* to be let off the lead to get enough exercise and/or to socialise, and several saying that it is actually cruel to keep a dog on a lead around other dogs because they *need* to socialise. Comments also include people saying they intentionally take their dogs to public places purely so that they can 'socialise' with strange dogs 😲

It had never even crossed my mind before that when I am walking a dog in a public field/foot paths/on common land that many of the out of control dogs that charge at us were taken there by their owner so that they could do just that :( It explains why so many get arsy when asked to call their dog off. It doesn't explain why they thought letting their dog harass strange dogs was a good idea in the first place though.

What is wrong with some people?!
 

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My OH is still on our old village fb page. There have been ongoing problems with an off lead, out of control Doberman. It has attacked many dogs, chased sheep and finally nipped a person (when they were trying to get it off their dog). Post today saying it has been pts and
‘I hope all you who complained are happy now, you’ve killed an innocent dog’. Well actually if I lived in the area still I’d be happy I no longer had to meet it. And the owner had many many months and ongoing attacks to resolve the issue. (Radical stuff like close the garden gate, use a lead, that sort of thing).
 

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This dog has been allowed out by its owner to roam free for months.

Dog warden contacted multiple times, owner told they are not allowed to allow their dog to roam free.

The owner completely ignores it and continues to allow it to happen.

They are now basically saying they cant do anything without building up a case from witnesses who see the dog fouling in public or similar. Apparently the dog causing trouble for reactive dogs cannot be considered as a problem.
 

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It is quite worrying that a lot of the comments next to that video disagree with it. There are many comments saying that dogs *need* to be let off the lead to get enough exercise and/or to socialise, and several saying that it is actually cruel to keep a dog on a lead around other dogs because they *need* to socialise. Comments also include people saying they intentionally take their dogs to public places purely so that they can 'socialise' with strange dogs 😲

It had never even crossed my mind before that when I am walking a dog in a public field/foot paths/on common land that many of the out of control dogs that charge at us were taken there by their owner so that they could do just that :( It explains why so many get arsy when asked to call their dog off. It doesn't explain why they thought letting their dog harass strange dogs was a good idea in the first place though.

What is wrong with some people?!
In answer to your question: stupidity and misplaced entitlement.
 

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Not related but not sure where to post this.

What fruits do you feed your dogs ?

Nouille seems to like apples, peaches, banana ect. I saw that grapes are dangerous and also apples's pits
but otherwise what others fruits are not suitable ?

Thank you in advance.
 

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What fruits do you feed your dogs ?

Nouille seems to like apples, peaches, banana ect. I saw that grapes are dangerous and also apples's pits
but otherwise what others fruits are not suitable ?

Thank you in advance.
I think they can have some of the melons, and blueberries.
 

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Not related but not sure where to post this.

What fruits do you feed your dogs ?

Nouille seems to like apples, peaches, banana ect. I saw that grapes are dangerous and also apples's pits
but otherwise what others fruits are not suitable ?

Thank you in advance.
Not a fruit, but mine actively enjoys cucumber.
 
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