Irresponsible Owners

[scats]

Local foxhound pack has a new huntsman for this season.

His wife's dogs are roaming and causing a nuisance in the local village. She does not think that this a problem . This screenshot has been posted on an anti's page.

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How to fit into a new area when you move with your job - not.

What an idiot! I hope they don’t cause an accident while off on their own ‘having fun’!

I was told my dogs were beautifully behaved by a lady yesterday. All off lead and walking in a very dog populated part of the sand dunes. I felt like a proud parent ?

 

[Tiddlypom]

I'll start trying to contact the dog warden tomorrow, and see how it goes.

ETA I have finally found a phone number for the dog warden - they don't make it easy!

An hour spent on hold to the council and then to police 101, and I'm not any further forward .

Very sympathetic responses from both, and they'd have gone out if the dogs were currently straying on the road, but no route from either dog warden or police to speak to the known named owner and to warn her to stop her dogs from straying.

I reiterated that the dogs are regularly crossing over to the other side of the A49, and both agreed that it was very dangerous, but it is not in their remit to have a chat with the owner before the inevitable road crash happens.

Bah humbug.

 

[SilverLinings]

An hour spent on hold to the council and then to police 101, and I'm not any further forward .

Very sympathetic responses from both, and they'd have gone out if the dogs were currently straying on the road, but no route from either dog warden or police to speak to the known named owner and to warn her to stop her dogs from straying.

I reiterated that the dogs are regularly crossing over to the other side of the A49, and both agreed that it was very dangerous, but it is not in their remit to have a chat with the owner before the inevitable road crash happens.

Bah humbug.

I can't stand that sort of bureaucracy/avoidance of responsibility- it's like when a council won't put up a road sign or pedestrian crossing until there has been a serious accident, surely the point is to prevent one?! Good on you for trying to get someone to intervene, not sure how much help the sympathy you got was though!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Clucking bell I'm cross.

Had worked out a way to let other dogs pass in close proximity on narrow path which was working really well, by doing a massive food drop on the ground on the verge.
Until tonight when some teenagers walking a really fugly blue and brown bulldog let it come right over in her face, IT had a go at her, minding her own business and eating and if course she retaliated.
They laughed so I'm not sorry to say I gave them a right mouthful. And the next time I see them they'll get told if it comes anywhere near us, it'll get my boot up it's backside.
(No flaming, I'm pissed off, I've worked so hard on this female and I just hope it hadn't bolloxed my tactic).

Plus a dog I've been working with for nearly two years got attacked by a mastiff last week and the owner thought he was doing the right thing by 'letting him defend himself' and 'he gave as good as he got' but I wish he'd have advocated for the dog a bit more. I'll see tomorrow how much mental damage has been done.

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

An hour spent on hold to the council and then to police 101, and I'm not any further forward .

Very sympathetic responses from both, and they'd have gone out if the dogs were currently straying on the road, but no route from either dog warden or police to speak to the known named owner and to warn her to stop her dogs from straying.

I reiterated that the dogs are regularly crossing over to the other side of the A49, and both agreed that it was very dangerous, but it is not in their remit to have a chat with the owner before the inevitable road crash happens.

Bah humbug.

That seems like nonsense, or at least it should be. How does this not fit under the DDA? Like under serious risk of harm being caused by these dogs not being under control.

Eta sorry if that sounded like having a go at you, it's not just frustration at useless dog legislation.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Clucking bell I'm cross.

Had worked out a way to let other dogs pass in close proximity on narrow path which was working really well, by doing a massive food drop on the ground on the verge.
Until tonight when some teenagers walking a really fugly blue and brown bulldog let it come right over in her face, IT had a go at her, minding her own business and eating and if course she retaliated.
They laughed so I'm not sorry to say I gave them a right mouthful. And the next time I see them they'll get told if it comes anywhere near us, it'll get my boot up it's backside.
(No flaming, I'm pissed off, I've worked so hard on this female and I just hope it hadn't bolloxed my tactic).

Plus a dog I've been working with for nearly two years got attacked by a mastiff last week and the owner thought he was doing the right thing by 'letting him defend himself' and 'he gave as good as he got' but I wish he'd have advocated for the dog a bit more. I'll see tomorrow how much mental damage has been done.

Is she very reactive, I take it?

 

[CorvusCorax]

She's fine if given space and there's not a lot of space on this path. Had too many rude dogs with no recall crashing in on top of her and a very bad experience where a spaniel jumped into the garden and chased her as a pup which has coloured her judgement, as you would expect.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Food drop still working this morning, phew....

 

[Caol Ila]

Pottering through the park yesterday, and my horse suddenly jumped forwards. I looked behind me, and saw a poodle thing barking and racing up his backside. No owner in sight. I yelled some swear words, and poodle thing ran away. Good.

Continued on our way, and about 15-20 minutes later, poodle thing appeared again. This time with its owners. Sort of. It ran at me, barking, and they danced and dove while trying to catch it and put it on a lead. I stood still, looking very unimpressed. They caught it, but they had an extendable lead so it lunged at us again. Glaring, I rode away. Then, just as we were leaving the park, the horse did another small spook and there was poodle thing, hurtling around the corner. I rode into the carpark and it followed. I kept going and owners caught it, but not before owner's kid, who looked about 10, gave us the finger. Kid was as well behaved as the dog.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Pottering through the park yesterday, and my horse suddenly jumped forwards. I looked behind me, and saw a poodle thing barking and racing up his backside. No owner in sight. I yelled some swear words, and poodle thing ran away. Good.

Continued on our way, and about 15-20 minutes later, poodle thing appeared again. This time with its owners. Sort of. It ran at me, barking, and they danced and dove while trying to catch it and put it on a lead. I stood still, looking very unimpressed. They caught it, but they had an extendable lead so it lunged at us again. Glaring, I rode away. Then, just as we were leaving the park, the horse did another small spook and there was poodle thing, hurtling around the corner. I rode into the carpark and it followed. I kept going and owners caught it, but not before owner's kid, who looked about 10, gave us the finger. Kid was as well behaved as the dog.

Bloody hell! Kid gives you the finger because his dog is misbehaving?! I despair! That could be a call to the dog warden (if you can ever ruddy find one!) re dog dangerously out of control/making you fear it might attack. There’s a notice to that effect on the gate to the woods we go to. Do you have a go-pro?

 

[BBP]

This thread and my own experiences make me question if I will ever have another dog. Thanks to offlead aggressive dogs mine is now dog reactive, I do everything in my power to keep him safe and comfortable but I feel it’s driven me into a corner of hating the sight of other dogs. I walk at 5am to actively avoid others and no longer go to parks or the woods that I used to love so much, or anywhere that is popular for dog walking, all for fear of off lead dogs out of control. It has really taken the fun out of having a dog. I don’t think either my dog or I are resilient enough to cope. Last year I took a footpath between farm buildings and was accosted by 3 massive GSD’s all running loose, protecting their territory, no human in sight. I’m lucky that my dog realised he would be punching above his weight if he started anything, but it was pretty terrifying being circled by such big dogs on their own property with no humans to call them off. Thankfully they appeared to be extremely well socialised and were just doing their job of checking out the intruder without any significant aggression, and then let us back away, but it has put me off exploring the great unknown with him. I’m super lucky that back before the cost of living crisis and splitting with my partner I was able to invest in fencing a paddock for him to play off lead without fear of interacting with anyone but I feel like I’m relying on it more and more.

 

[cauda equina]

I feel the same way about off-road hacking; what used to be a complete delight is now marred by the thought of meeting the wrong dog/owner

 

[Cinnamontoast]

This thread and my own experiences make me question if I will ever have another dog. Thanks to offlead aggressive dogs mine is now dog reactive, I do everything in my power to keep him safe and comfortable but I feel it’s driven me into a corner of hating the sight of other dogs. I walk at 5am to actively avoid others and no longer go to parks or the woods that I used to love so much, or anywhere that is popular for dog walking, all for fear of off lead dogs out of control. It has really taken the fun out of having a dog. I don’t think either my dog or I are resilient enough to cope. Last year I took a footpath between farm buildings and was accosted by 3 massive GSD’s all running loose, protecting their territory, no human in sight. I’m lucky that my dog realised he would be punching above his weight if he started anything, but it was pretty terrifying being circled by such big dogs on their own property with no humans to call them off. Thankfully they appeared to be extremely well socialised and were just doing their job of checking out the intruder without any significant aggression, and then let us back away, but it has put me off exploring the great unknown with him. I’m super lucky that back before the cost of living crisis and splitting with my partner I was able to invest in fencing a paddock for him to play off lead without fear of interacting with anyone but I feel like I’m relying on it more and more.

I feel your pain and quote honestly think Zak would have taken on all three. It’s so difficult walking a reactive dog. I met a bloke with a very reactive dog this week, unfortunately turned a corner in the woods and ran straight into him. I say unfortunately, but my lot moved on when told, bloke panicked, he reminded me of me with Zak. If I see him again, I’m going to ask if he could just carry on walking. Stopping and doing the panic dance whilst shouting at my lot is exactly what I would have done, but walking away like my OH used to de-escalates that kind of situation.

 

[scats]

Run in with idiotic dog walker who uses the public footpath that runs through yard. I had a run in with him last winter about letting his Sharpei bark at my horses at the gate. Then the dog chased my friend riding her horse a few months later when dog walker was trespassing on the land and turned a corner and bumped into friend riding. Friends cob spun and bolted, dog at his heels. How friend didn’t come off, I don’t know. Man scuttled off.
Today I caught him trespassing once again, dog off lead. I told him he was trespassing to which he replied that he knew and he’s always getting told off for it. The I asked if his dog was ok with horses, as it was approaching us. His response was “is your horse ok with dogs?”. He then told me “Elsie (dog) is going to die soon.” He repeated this three or four times, to the point that I was actually about to ask if there was something wrong with it. Then it went right up to Millie’s back legs and sniffed her heels. He then said “that’s why she’s going to die soon, she just can’t leave horses alone”. He made no attempt to stop her, despite me asking him firmly to get his dog away. In fairness to the dog, I didn’t feel it was going to do anything, but it was in seriously danger of being kicked and if Millie had kicked out, how did I know that the dog wouldn’t retaliate and bite her? After about 15 seconds of me telling him to get his dog away and me trying to get Millie away from it, to which dog just followed Millie’s heels, the man eventually turned and walked off, muttering something. Dog then followed.
I am so fed up of these idiots. Gold star to Millie though, it was one of those moments that I realised she is very, very special.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Run in with idiotic dog walker who uses the public footpath that runs through yard. I had a run in with him last winter about letting his Sharpei bark at my horses at the gate. Then the dog chased my friend riding her horse a few months later when dog walker was trespassing on the land and turned a corner and bumped into friend riding. Friends cob spun and bolted, dog at his heels. How friend didn’t come off, I don’t know. Man scuttled off.
Today I caught him trespassing once again, dog off lead. I told him he was trespassing to which he replied that he knew and he’s always getting told off for it. The I asked if his dog was ok with horses, as it was approaching us. His response was “is your horse ok with dogs?”. He then told me “Elsie (dog) is going to die soon.” He repeated this three or four times, to the point that I was actually about to ask if there was something wrong with it. Then it went right up to Millie’s back legs and sniffed her heels. He then said “that’s why she’s going to die soon, she just can’t leave horses alone”. He made no attempt to stop her, despite me asking him firmly to get his dog away. In fairness to the dog, I didn’t feel it was going to do anything, but it was in seriously danger of being kicked and if Millie had kicked out, how did I know that the dog wouldn’t retaliate and bite her? After about 15 seconds of me telling him to get his dog away and me trying to get Millie away from it, to which dog just followed Millie’s heels, the man eventually turned and walked off, muttering something. Dog then followed.
I am so fed up of these idiots. Gold star to Millie though, it was one of those moments that I realised she is very, very special.

He's always getting told off for it?! What a tw*t! I'd be very direct and tell him to keep the hell off the land. Don't suppose you have a dog warden? They seem to be a rare breed these days!

 

[scats]

He's always getting told off for it?! What a tw*t! I'd be very direct and tell him to keep the hell off the land. Don't suppose you have a dog warden? They seem to be a rare breed these days!

I can’t work out if there’s something not quite right with him. He doesn’t respond in the way that a ‘normal’ (whatever that is!) person would and he has an odd manner about him. I wouldn’t want to meet him in a dark alley, I’ll say that much!

 

[P3LH]

The very posh elderly ladies who parked next to me at a country pub earlier this week probably fit the title. They pulled up as we did and an hour later when we left to go back to the car, we were deafened by barking. Four dogs, toy breeds, some brachy - in crates barking and whining in the back of the car. It was hot. Hot enough to feel sweaty just being sat outside for a drink and something to eat.

Went inside to speak to the duty manager - knew exactly who the dogs and car belonged too. The irony? They were inside running a breed club committee meeting. There were two other cars of that same meeting with dogs left inside cars too. It was a dog friendly pub, I had dogs with me. The pub even has a dog that is often present. People are morons.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Raaaant! We’re doing longer walks to build up the pups. Came to the path that goes straight on or you turn left. I wanted to go left to complete a circular walk. Two other owners with 5 dogs, 2 samoyeds I’ve met before (owner says they’re ’grumpy’), all blocking the left turn, a narrow gate. I couldn’t go straight on, there are no turns to get back.

Tried to shovel my lot through, one Samoyed started humping Bear, Bear had a pop, owner says ‘Yeah, the dogs will sort it out’ I told him it’s not my dog’s job to ‘sort out‘ another dog, carried on, but then the Samoyed blocked Mitch so I shoved it out of the way while the owner said ‘Yes, you have to move him’. Bloody hell, move your dog! I’m relieved Bear stops immediately when told.

Luckily, we met multiple other dogs after that, all lovely, but then Bear went after a fox and was springing up and down through cover. I stuck him on the lead, the dog doesn’t know his limits, despite being 12!

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Raaaant! We’re doing longer walks to build up the pups. Came to the path that goes straight on or you turn left. I wanted to go left to complete a circular walk. Two other owners with 5 dogs, 2 samoyeds I’ve met before (owner says they’re ’grumpy’), all blocking the left turn, a narrow gate. I couldn’t go straight on, there are no turns to get back.

Tried to shovel my lot through, one Samoyed started humping Bear, Bear had a pop, owner says ‘Yeah, the dogs will sort it out’ I told him it’s not my dog’s job to ‘sort out‘ another dog, carried on, but then the Samoyed blocked Mitch so I shoved it out of the way while the owner said ‘Yes, you have to move him’. Bloody hell, move your dog! I’m relieved Bear stops immediately when told.

Luckily, we met multiple other dogs after that, all lovely, but then Bear went after a fox and was springing up and down through cover. I stuck him on the lead, the dog doesn’t know his limits, despite being 12!

I would have had to say, 'Why haven't you moved him out of my way?'. There really are some dimwits out there!

 

[AmyMay]

I would have had to say, 'Why haven't you moved him out of my way?'. There really are some dimwits out there!

I would have said ‘Can you move it!’

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I would have had to say, 'Why haven't you moved him out of my way?'. There really are some dimwits out there!

Not even an attempt to call her dog off Bear, she’s bloody lucky he’s so responsive to commands, then no attempt to move the other one out of the way. I’m afraid I walked off saying something about unpleasant dogs.

 

[AmyMay]

Not even an attempt to call her dog off Bear, she’s bloody lucky he’s so responsive to commands, then no attempt to move the other one out of the way. I’m afraid I walked off saying something about unpleasant dogs.

CT, I think you’re far too nice.

I told a woman that both she and her dog were F!ng rude the other day, much to her surprise ??

 

[Cinnamontoast]

CT, I think you’re far too nice.

I told a woman that both she and her dog were F!ng rude the other day, much to her surprise ??

I think I do need to be harsher. Her dog had 2 shots at annoying Bear and she just laughed. ? I used to really advocate for Zak and I will protect my three to the death, but I need to be more vocal. I just wanted to get past asap.

On a positive note, Bear’s hearing appears to have improved: he’s hearing normal volume in the house, head tilting, responding to me coming downstairs. Odd, but I’m delighted! He’s taken to sleeping on the recliner in the kitchen away from the pups who are in crates still, so he’s not taking a cue from them.

 

[cauda equina]

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[scats]

Altercation again this evening with Sharpei owner. Trespassing off the public footpath and was in a private field belonging to our yard. He saw me riding towards him, to which he turned and scuttled off and left his dog off lead which came bounding down to Millie at full pelt. Thankfully it stopped about 20 yards away and then turned and ran after the owner, because I think there could have been an accident if it hadn’t. I am sick to death of this man and his constant trespassing and disregard for anyones safety. Millie is good but we have one horse on our yard who is as sharp as a tack and terrified of dogs and if this dog ran under him like it does Millie, I think there would be a serious accident.

What can we do about this? I know trespassing is a civil matter, but the out of control dog is a serious concern.

 

[AmyMay]

What can we do about this? I know trespassing is a civil matter, but the out of control dog is a serious concern.

You could start with the Dog Warden

 

[SilverLinings]

That sounds awful Scats, and tiring and stressful that you keep having to put up with his irresponsible and antisocial behaviour.

I'm not sure about the legalities, but could you print out the legislation that allows farmers to shoot dogs worrying livestock and make it into signs to put on the fences/gates? And ask the Dog Warden for advice as Amymay says.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

He clearly knows he’s in the wrong if he’s scuttling off. Could you print and laminate a few notices at key entry points? I know you shouldn’t have to, but it might get through his thick head.

 

[My_breadbagel]

i see bad dog walkers when I’m both riding and walking my dog! Hence why I don’t let my dog off the lead anymore, and why I avoid dog walking rush hour. He’s too friendly, unfortunately, and will try to greet every living creature- much easier if we only see the occasional dog.

Most dog walkers are fab where I am, although i had someone let their dog approach my horse the other day when I was riding alone with my neddy- off lead. Fair enough that their dog was pleasant, but I didn’t know that! I was admittedly ready to spring from my poor pony’s back, brandishing my whip, to beat the life out of the dog if it so much as growled. ned wouldn’t have fought back, which frightened me more- he would have rather have sat their and take it than cause a scene, or hurt me

 

[scats]

I’ve just filled in a form on the council website to report it. He is such an odd man, gives off very strange vibes. I pulled my phone out tonight to record him, even though he was quite far away, but I mustn’t have pressed record on my phone ? Still, he looked back and saw me so he thinks he’s been filmed.