Irresponsible Owners

[Pearlsasinger]

Forgive me for butting in guys.

With these youngsters, do you think the barking/raised hackles/unsure could be due to going through a fear period? (fear periods can occur up to about 18 months)

Ours is almost certainly going through a developmental phase. We have to bear in mind that this dog was passed on to us aged 5 months + a few days, has been with us since 3rd July and has only found her voice in the last couple of weeks. I am sure that as we continue to take her out and about and build her confidence in new situations she will grow out of it. She has stopped barking at those neighbours that we pass regularly and with whom she has become familiar.

Eta, she doesn't raise her hackles at those times, just occasionally when playing with the other dogs.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

It would be good. Probably actually, I’ve never especially noticed it in the bitches by a year old but generally he is very babyish compared to them at the same age. In a few months he’s going to be having an awful lot of contact with an awful lot of strange dogs so I hope he gets over it!
Do dog’s understand reasons for erect hackles in another dog? Or is it always a challenge? He doesn’t bark or anything.

Very likely, so when Mitch has his hackles up approaching other dogs, they have all been keen to meet him. They don’t seem to perceive a challenge. I’ve watched him and the other dogs each time, obviously I’m paranoid after puss cat.

Ours is almost certainly going through a developmental phase. We have to bear in mind that this dog was passed on to us aged 5 months + a few days, has been with us since 3rd July and has only found her voice in the last couple of weeks. I am sure that as we continue to take her out and about and build her confidence in new situations she will grow out of it. She has stopped barking at those neighbours that we pass regularly and with whom she has become familiar.

Eta, she doesn't raise her hackles at those times, just occasionally when playing with the other dogs.

Like mine, so I think hackles may just=excitement. Mine bark at one thing and that’s the neighbour behind using their back gate. They’ve beebrought in twice for that, I don’t want barking. Mitch barked in frustration at Goose yesterday because Goose was refusing to try to steal his toy.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Very likely, so when Mitch has his hackles up approaching other dogs, they have all been keen to meet him. They don’t seem to perceive a challenge. I’ve watched him and the other dogs each time, obviously I’m paranoid after puss cat.



Like mine, so I think hackles may just=excitement. Mine bark at one thing and that’s the neighbour behind using their back gate. They’ve beebrought in twice for that, I don’t want barking. Mitch barked in frustration at Goose yesterday because Goose was refusing to try to steal his toy.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen was when Rotter 1 refused to want a Kong Wubba toy that we called Mr Pink, when Rotter 2 thought she should. Rotter 2 did everything she could think of to make it desirable, throwing it up in the air, pouncing on it etc and then finally, in desperation threw it across the room at her sister hitting her right between the eyes, (goodness knows how she managed that!) and still Rotter1 ignored it!

 

[Cinnamontoast]

One of the funniest things I have ever seen was when Rotter 1 refused to want a Kong Wubba toy that we called Mr Pink, when Rotter 2 thought she should. Rotter 2 did everything she could think of to make it desirable, throwing it up in the air, pouncing on it etc and then finally, in desperation threw it across the room at her sister hitting her right between the eyes, (goodness knows how she managed that!) and still Rotter1 ignored it!

Mitch tried everything yesterday, bouncing at him, play growling, parading around. Trouble is, Goose had the identical toy. Mitch gave up, Goose promptly stole both toys and laid down with them prominently displayed to await Mitch’s reaction. They make me die!

I stupidly introduced them to plastic bottles in Newcastle and they were ecstatic, but every time I get out a drink, they think they should have it.

 

[teapot]

Can I add people walking three abreast down a private road (no pavement) with four dogs in tow, who just let a dog wander out on a long lead in front of my bonnet.

Once I'd removed my eyebrows from my roof, I got a vague 'oh sorry' shrug FFS.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Local foxhound pack has a new huntsman for this season.

His wife's dogs are roaming and causing a nuisance in the local village. She does not think that this a problem . This screenshot has been posted on an anti's page.




How to fit into a new area when you move with your job - not.

 

[AmyMay]

What a pillock!

 

[Clodagh]

What a very stupid woman.

 

[AmyMay]

Hopefully the dog warden will catch up with her. But of course someone could contact the hunt Chairman and get them to have a word with his hunt staff about how to win friends and influence people ??

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Who lets their dog roam these days? I’d be terrified if mine got out. At the max, they run int9 Aunty Barbara’s garden or house. Bear scampered in and sat by the cupboard until her son gave him a treat. ?

A local park had a dog attack a girl’s dog and the girl when she tried to help her dog. No owner in sight. Think I’ll be avoiding there for a while, which is a shame, because it’s our nearest decent park, the one where the woods are totally enclosed so useful for Bear.

 

[Tiddlypom]

I know that the hunt monitors the local anti's pages, so I presume that they are now aware of how their new appointment's wife is making efforts to fit in with the locals.

 

[AmyMay]

I know that the hunt monitors the local anti's pages, so I presume that they are now aware of how their new appointment's wife is making efforts to fit in with the locals.

Well, that’s something.

 

[Clodagh]

You get a lot of dogs roaming round here, mainly farm collies. I’d be far too paranoid.

 

[Tiddlypom]

Doing a bit more digging, these dogs are not just straying close to home, they are being found further away on the other side of two busy A roads - the A49 and the A556 for those who are local.

It's crazy. I would be reporting them to the rural police/dog warden if I came across them myself. How can people be so entitled, and so oblivious of the danger that they are putting both their dogs and the public in - a car swerving to avoid running them over on the road could cause a serious accident.

 

[ycbm]

on the other side of two busy A roads - the A49 and the A556 for those who are local.

???

Forget the dogs, someone going to die in a road accident at that rate, those are fast and furious roads!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Sorry, you can't 'love' your dogs and willingly let them spend prolonged periods of time out of sight and out of control/not contained.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Doing a bit more digging, these dogs are not just straying close to home, they are being found further away on the other side of two busy A roads - the A49 and the A556 for those who are local.

It's crazy. I would be reporting them to the rural police/dog warden if I came across them myself. How can people be so entitled, and so oblivious of the danger that they are putting both their dogs and the public in - a car swerving to avoid running them over on the road could cause a serious accident.

I hope she has good insurance.

 

[Errin Paddywack]

She is breaking the law just letting them roam and I doubt any insurance company would pay out as she is clearly negligent. I hope no one gets killed avoiding them on the roads.

 

[CorvusCorax]

She is breaking the law just letting them roam and I doubt any insurance company would pay out as she is clearly negligent. I hope no one gets killed avoiding them on the roads.

Yeah I was more thinking about what she's going to have to pay out when someone gets wiped out on the road trying to avoid her dogs.

She's actually put it on writing on the Internet that she doesn't keep them securely/lets them roam and is liable AF for anything that goes wrong. There's wiser eating grass.

 

[SilverLinings]

As she is knowingly allowing her dogs to repeatedly roam on/across public roads would it not be in the interest of the local dog warden/PCSO/policeman to have a word with her before she is the cause of a serious RTA? TBH I don't really get how SM works (other than HHO, obvs), but can someone not tag the warden/pcso/police in on any posts that show her acknowledging her dogs roam, and/or posts from locals who've spotted the dogs on roads?

She shouldn't have dogs if she's that unbothered that they could get squashed, but I'm amazed she also doesn't seem to care that a person could be killed in an RTA caused by their roaming.

 

[AmyMay]

Not an irresponsible owner post…

I walk a very nervy, reactive dog. She’s always put on a lead when we meet other dogs. She’s not aggressive, but does a good impression of being so.

Met a lady yesterday with an equally nervy, reactive dog. Also on the lead.

We acknowledged each other with a cherry ‘hello’. Both rolled our eyes over the dogs, and then stood chatting at distance for several minutes. Both dogs calmed down. And we each moved a little closer, and continued chatting. Dogs now totally ignoring each other.

We were both grateful that we could take the time to create a safe, calm environment for these dogs, diffusing any stress they may have felt.

Both dogs met again an hour later, and passed each other calmly and politely.

There are some really good eggs out there ?

 

[SilverLinings]

Not an irresponsible owner post…

I walk a very nervy, reactive dog. She’s always put on a lead when we meet other dogs. She’s not aggressive, but does a good impression of being so.

Met a lady yesterday with an equally nervy, reactive dog. Also on the lead.

We acknowledged each other with a cherry ‘hello’. Both rolled our eyes over the dogs, and then stood chatting at distance for several minutes. Both dogs calmed down. And we each moved a little closer, and continued chatting. Dogs now totally ignoring each other.

We were both grateful that we could take the time to create a safe, calm environment for these dogs, diffusing any stress they may have felt.

Both dogs met again an hour later, and passed each other calmly and politely.

There are some really good eggs out there ?

That sounds very civilised, and an excellent opportunity for both the dogs to learn how to ignore others without getting stressed about it . It is so nice to read about an interaction that didn't end up with 'but he only wants to say hello...' followed by a very upset dog in it at some point!

 

[Tiddlypom]

I've not witnessed the two dogs loose myself, but I have now caught up with numerous posts on local FB pages stating that they are always getting out, plus the useless owner's responses stating that there's not much that she can do about it, and that her dogs are having fun. They are indeed crossing the A roads on their travels, and it has been going on for months.

Various posts re these dogs are on an open village FB page and are up and still visible.



I am going to see if I can report them. That particular council doesn't seem to have a way of directly contacting the dog warden, though my neighbouring council does. Everything is shut today for the bank holiday of course.

This is so dangerous, I don't want to read of a horrible road smash caused by these dogs.

 

[AmyMay]

What group is it @Tiddlypom ?

 

[Tiddlypom]

Although I'm bleddy furious about it, I won't publicly share the link as it does clearly identify the offender.

I'll PM it to anyone who is interested, though. PM is already being sent to Amymay.

 

[AmyMay]

Although I'm bleddy furious about it, I won't publicly share the link as it does clearly identify the offender..

Of course, fair enough.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I've not witnessed the two dogs loose myself, but I have now caught up with numerous posts on local FB pages stating that they are always getting out, plus the useless owner's responses stating that there's not much that she can do about it, and that her dogs are having fun. They are indeed crossing the A roads on their travels, and it has been going on for months.

Various posts re these dogs are on an open village FB page and are up and still visible.

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I am going to see if I can report them. That particular council doesn't seem to have a way of directly contacting the dog warden, though my neighbouring council does. Everything is shut today for the bank holiday of course.

This is so dangerous, I don't want to read of a horrible road smash caused by these dogs.

I’d be shovelling them both in the car and putting up a post saying ‘Anyone know these two? Can be collected from the dog warden at x cost’. Hitting her in the pocket might make her change her mind. If they have tags on their collars, they would mysteriously disappear, god knows I’ve had plenty come off during walks.

 

[CorvusCorax]

I was going to say, repeatedly having to pay them out of the pound might change her mind.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Possibly a quiet word with neighbours, TP?! A few times paying to get them back might work a treat.

 

[Tiddlypom]

That's a good call, but they're a bit off my patch, and I don't know of anyone who lives thereabouts. It all came to my notice because of the screenshot of one of her responses to her loose dogs being posted by an anti hunting group - she's the horsey hunting wife of the new huntsman to my local hunt. He'll have only been in post since May 1.

I posted elsewhere that the masters must have been having a brain f@rt when they appointed him, he has form, but I hadn't anticipated this.

I'll start trying to contact the dog warden tomorrow, and see how it goes.

ETA I have finally found a phone number for the dog warden - they don't make it easy!