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What’s the point? Was there not even any financial recompense to the farmer?
Local to us in Essex a smallholder had a few rare breed sheep. One morning he found a dog trying to kill one in a stream. When he arrived the owner tried a bit harder, caught the dog and bolted. I mean if it had all gone terribly wrong and your dog had caused injury would you not own up and offer to pay?


When my dog killed a neighbors chicken (it was out on the path I was walking but still) I paid the owner the price of the chicken plus a bottle of wine because I felt so bad!
 

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Found it registered on TKC, parents both listed as frenchies. I honestly think it's disgusting the the KC happily registered this dog (and others of it's ilk) in spite of all the noise and campaigns they have about improving breed health. I did look to see if there was a general query/complaint's email but seems there isn't, but I was tempted to send an email with a picture of the dog to ask why it is okay for them to essentially endorse this type of breeding. I mean, we know the answer, money, but it doesn't make it okay.

Maybe send it to the tabloids , that might make the KC pull their socks up
 

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I mean, the poor dog is a travesty but the response I've seen on the showing pages is overwhelmingly focused on how it must be a mongrel/crossbreed and how dare the KC register it on that basis, rather than focusing on the features that are actually going to cause harm to this dog's health.

Besides anything else if the parents are registered, the offspring are registerable, no-one's checking photos at registration to ensure that dogs adhere to the breed standard or for deleterious features so this is on the breeder, not the KC.
 

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Found it registered on TKC, parents both listed as frenchies. I honestly think it's disgusting the the KC happily registered this dog (and others of it's ilk) in spite of all the noise and campaigns they have about improving breed health. I did look to see if there was a general query/complaint's email but seems there isn't, but I was tempted to send an email with a picture of the dog to ask why it is okay for them to essentially endorse this type of breeding. I mean, we know the answer, money, but it doesn't make it okay.

I don't really know why the KC even bother continuing to pretend that they're interested in welfare and breed health, as they clearly aren't. If they were truly interested in either then they would be using their position to drive effective, positive change in the dog breeding world.
 

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Today OH was walking our terriers and met up with a couple of other regular walkers out front from us. They were all a bit taken aback when a young woman (20s) walked by with 4 good sized off lead dogs plus 2 on leads with an approx 3yo toddler trailing behind!. They all went they other way and then OH headed home down the hill. He saw dog walking woman coming up so took another path only to be accosted by 2 of her off lead labs who thoroughly upset our reactive terrier (who had been clipped onto a lead when he saw the woman again). But "don't worry they're friendly":mad: How on earth do you keep a toddler safe and 6 six dogs under any sort of control.
 

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Have we already covered a dog being held on the lap of the front seat passenger in an open topped sports car? I think maybe we have...

OH saw this for himself this morning. Perfectly pleasant couple who he'd seen earlier walking their dog on the canal towpath, then later passed them on the road as they drove off with their dog sitting in the open air on the woman's lap.

Not much imagination there as to what could go wrong.
 

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Highway code.

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When in a vehicle make sure dogs or other animals are suitably restrained so they cannot distract you while you are driving or injure you, or themselves, if you stop quickly. A seat belt harness, pet carrier, dog cage or dog guard are ways of restraining animals in cars.

We tried seat belts restraints for our two GSD in the back seats. Within 5 minutes we had to stop and untangle them, and every 5 minutes thereafter. One lost a toy under the seat and alerted us constantly to this until we stopped to retrieve it. He dropped it again as soon as we started off.

We have a van now.
 

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We tried seat belts restraints for our two GSD in the back seats. Within 5 minutes we had to stop and untangle them, and every 5 minutes thereafter. One lost a toy under the seat and alerted us constantly to this until we stopped to retrieve it. He dropped it again as soon as we started off.

We have a van now.

Sounds just like my 2 year old child!
 

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I think vans are a bit of an inevitability, it was a running joke in the sibe circles. I am still resisting hard and have just forked out for a very custom cage set-up but I can’t have rear passengers any more so it’s basically created a van. 😬
I have a dog box in my Vitara but it doesn’t hold enough dogs, so I have one or two on the back seat with a dog guard behind the front seats. I really want to take out the back seats altogether so I could get a full length cage so I can easily travel 5. OH says just buy a van, but I love my car.
 

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I put my camping kit on the back seats so couldn’t remove them entirely but they’re pushed all the way forwards, gives me 41” depth in the boot cage (if she outgrows that, she’s going back!)

They did make the centre divider removable so I can push the seats back if needed but it’s a 10 minute job.

A van would have been infinitely simpler but I’ve never yet got stuck on a show ground when everyone else is being towed off.

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This was a really sad story in Nov just gone, near me. Poor thing was seen by various drivers running along the side of the motorway and was found dead a few weeks later, he must've been really scared :(

 

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I’ve had my dogs in cages in the car for ages , I always think that if I was taken I’ll or had a car accident even if people open the back doors the dogs can’t get out and run off . I’m sure many people don’t know that dogs should be secured in the car nowadays. When I was younger my dogs always travelled loose on the back seat and I don’t think there was a law then
 

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I’ve had my dogs in cages in the car for ages , I always think that if I was taken I’ll or had a car accident even if people open the back doors the dogs can’t get out and run off . I’m sure many people don’t know that dogs should be secured in the car nowadays. When I was younger my dogs always travelled loose on the back seat and I don’t think there was a law then

My uncle was mocked and called over-protective for having a seatbelt/harness set-up for his border collie thirty-odd years ago. Even at the time, I pointed out the additional benefit that, if you are in a crash, you don't have a 40lb loose weight (with teeth) flying around inside the car.
 

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It always makes me cringe when I see a car with a dog with its head out of the window, eye injuries a risk.

Seen on Facebook. Yesterday a dog jumped out of the window of a moving car. Today, still missing.

At the vets one day, we met a springer with goggles round his neck. The owner says he hangs his head out of the window so has protective gear!
 

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I put my camping kit on the back seats so couldn’t remove them entirely but they’re pushed all the way forwards, gives me 41” depth in the boot cage (if she outgrows that, she’s going back!)

They did make the centre divider removable so I can push the seats back if needed but it’s a 10 minute job.

A van would have been infinitely simpler but I’ve never yet got stuck on a show ground when everyone else is being towed off.

What sort of vehicle do you drive? I have a Mazda 5. I folded up the back seats and I can fit 2 GSD crates in it. It's hard to fit much else but I manage to have my tracking gear and articles as well as my shade sheet and a few other odds and ends that I've managed to make fit.

BTW, if I get a flat it is a big pain in the rear. I have to take out the rear crate, which is heavy as it is an old one and well built.
 

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I’ve got a Citroen berlingo and I’ve got a double crate for the terriers and a big crate for the lurcher. It’s fine day to day but when we all go on holiday it’s a squeeze getting my case in and their beds and food etc plus blankets to cover the holiday let furniture. I use the front seat for stuff as well , im going to Norfolk in May and looking forward to lots of beach walks
 

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Gah, read a pair of what looked like spinones wrong on the canal towpath 😬. Blimmin' big things, whatever they were.

Walking the JRT on her lead as ever on a lovely day. Exchanged waved pleasantries with the people on a passing canal boat. Spotted two dogs up ahead, which I first took for golden retrievers. A little later a woman carrying leads appeared behind them. She didn't call them back or try to put their leads on, but I thought we'd be ok and I really didn't want to have use my teacher voice yet again to get her to call them back. There's nowhere to get out of the way on the canal path, it's canal on one side and a steep wooded slope down to a stream on the other.

As they got within 20 yards of us the lead one stiffened and the two of them came over and bowled the terrified JRT around with their snouts. She was shrieking in fear, they were huge so no point me trying to pick her up. Owner did nothing at all, didn't even try and call them back. Managed to extricate ourselves without any blood being drawn and once clear, I started to give the owner a bolloxing for not putting her dogs on leads. She looked really shocked at what they'd done, and when I said that it was obvious what was going to happen she asked me how could I tell?

I'd already thought it a bit odd that she was wearing a long padded coat on a warm day, and then she took her bobble hat off revealing that she was bald, so I quickly realised that she was probably not a well person so wound my neck in and left.

Caught with the canal boat again at the lock a little way along, and a very friendly woman asked if we were all right - she'd seen the situation building up with the spinones and was very worried about us.

JRT is luckily fine.

I'm just so fed up with meeting badly behaved and trained dogs.
 
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