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I now have the dog from hell.

Poor lass has now been attacked three times while loose in OUR yard by the neighbours ridgeback jumping the fence. The latest last weekend.

She is now so fear reactive around other dogs that I doubt that I will ever leave the premises with her again.

The neighbours two suggestions 1, take them for a walk to the beach and let them play together so that they become friends 2, Let him run an electric tape along the top of our fence to shock his dog when it banks it.

Mr R will not let me involve the dog warden as we have to live next door to these people until we go into an old folks home 20 years hence.
 

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I now have the dog from hell.

Poor lass has now been attacked three times while loose in OUR yard by the neighbours ridgeback jumping the fence. The latest last weekend.

She is now so fear reactive around other dogs that I doubt that I will ever leave the premises with her again.

The neighbours two suggestions 1, take them for a walk to the beach and let them play together so that they become friends 2, Let him run an electric tape along the top of our fence to shock his dog when it banks it.

Mr R will not let me involve the dog warden as we have to live next door to these people until we go into an old folks home 20 years hence.
Words fail me..........
 

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That’s not on ratbatsa.

How high is the fence? Maybe ask them to build a bit at the top that leans in over their fence so he literally can’t get over (not explaining it v well but essentially this
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Build it out enough and from hardy enough materials and it should stop him

Your poor dog. Bloody neighbours. Makes my blood boil.
 

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I now have the dog from hell.

Poor lass has now been attacked three times while loose in OUR yard by the neighbours ridgeback jumping the fence. The latest last weekend.

She is now so fear reactive around other dogs that I doubt that I will ever leave the premises with her again.

The neighbours two suggestions 1, take them for a walk to the beach and let them play together so that they become friends 2, Let him run an electric tape along the top of our fence to shock his dog when it banks it.

Mr R will not let me involve the dog warden as we have to live next door to these people until we go into an old folks home 20 years hence.
It’s their responsibility to keep their dog in. I doubt ‘letting them play’ together will help. Zak would have killed the dog that attacked him, all 3 were straining at the leash when we saw it again afterwards. I’m sorry, but Mr R needs to put your girl’s well being first, this can’t keep happening. They need to either supervise their mutt or keep it on a lead when it’s outside. I suggest they build a taller fence at their expense. Idiots. 🤬
 

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I now have the dog from hell.

Poor lass has now been attacked three times while loose in OUR yard by the neighbours ridgeback jumping the fence. The latest last weekend.

She is now so fear reactive around other dogs that I doubt that I will ever leave the premises with her again.

The neighbours two suggestions 1, take them for a walk to the beach and let them play together so that they become friends 2, Let him run an electric tape along the top of our fence to shock his dog when it banks it.

Mr R will not let me involve the dog warden as we have to live next door to these people until we go into an old folks home 20 years hence.


No 1 is a very bad idea and tells me all I need to know about your neighbours.

Their dog should not be your problem. I agree with CT

They need to either supervise their mutt or keep it on a lead when it’s outside. I suggest they build a taller fence at their expense.
 

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The shortest route fence is just over 4', post and rail with sheep net at the bottom section, We two rails above the sheep net. The neighbour planted a beech hedge his side when the GSD was a tiddly puppy and his old dog, now no more, was attempting to attack the puppy through the fence.

We are getting some stockboard this weekend and going to fill in the dog eye line from our house to their kennels which face this way. It will not solve the problem but hopefully will make the GSD feel safer when loose in the yard.

The latest intrusion was caught on our cctv lambing camera which was set on yard security, it did not catch the jumping of the fence which is out of sight but did catch me slamming the back door on the ridgebacks snout, hard enough to make it yelp. Mr R was out of view cutting the grass and fortunately I had seen someone open one of their kennels from the room and had time to open the door for the GSD to get inside.

However one of their dogs has twice come over our half mesh 7 bar gates, which is out of view of their house. Once when the lady of the house was walking the dogs leadless and watching her phone and the other time when the children were taking them out with them while they were on segways, skateboards and roller skates, again no leads.

i sent the video clip to the mad professor up the lane and hopefully he will have strong words with them. He did so after his dog was attacked by them. His rollicking included words such as responsible dog owners and was quite effective for a while. The clip may also be shown to the lawyers further up the lane who will also have words about people feeling safe in their own home. These dogs killed their hens last year.

To be fair Mr R does have a point as he knows how nasty the whole family can be if they feel so inclined.
 

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Another no go area for walking, thankfully not too near us. A mastiff/XL bully type straying, apparently repeatedly. What gets me is it's another well-meaning 'does anyone know this dog' post on Facebook and owners eventually get tracked down, but it emerges that this is a repeat occurrence with no-one actually reporting it to the dog warden and no consequence for the owner. It's a bloody big dog as far as I can tell and multiple people have said it has made them feel uneasy/unsafe, so something needs to be done before it or someone else gets hurt.
 

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My friend told me about a case locally. A man we both know was walking his little beagle cross on a disused railway, this has a zigzag path up to the top. He was on the way up when he met a couple coming down with their Japanese Akita. This dog is usually on lead but was loose on this occasion. He passed them but then the Akita attacked his dog. He turned back and saw his dog had marks on his face from being bitten, then the Akita pitched in again so he did what I suspect a lot of us would have done and kicked it. The owners came back swearing at him and getting very abusive. The man then shoved him so hard he was knocked over. Having got up the woman then had a go at him while filming him and threatening to report him to the police. She then also shoved him and knocked him over again then started kicking him while he was on the ground. Once he got home he contacted someone who knew the couple and they fortunately could give him names and addresses. He reported it the police who acted because of the assault, not the dog attack. He was called in so they could ask him if he wanted to go to court or to leave it at them giving them a real telling off. He settled for the telling off. The worst part of this is that the couple are both teachers at Rugby School. I believe the police were also going to notify the school.
The poor chap is now very wary of where he walks. Thoroughly nice chap with a lovely inoffensive little dog.
 

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My friend told me about a case locally. A man we both know was walking his little beagle cross on a disused railway, this has a zigzag path up to the top. He was on the way up when he met a couple coming down with their Japanese Akita. This dog is usually on lead but was loose on this occasion. He passed them but then the Akita attacked his dog. He turned back and saw his dog had marks on his face from being bitten, then the Akita pitched in again so he did what I suspect a lot of us would have done and kicked it. The owners came back swearing at him and getting very abusive. The man then shoved him so hard he was knocked over. Having got up the woman then had a go at him while filming him and threatening to report him to the police. She then also shoved him and knocked him over again then started kicking him while he was on the ground. Once he got home he contacted someone who knew the couple and they fortunately could give him names and addresses. He reported it the police who acted because of the assault, not the dog attack. He was called in so they could ask him if he wanted to go to court or to leave it at them giving them a real telling off. He settled for the telling off. The worst part of this is that the couple are both teachers at Rugby School. I believe the police were also going to notify the school.
The poor chap is now very wary of where he walks. Thoroughly nice chap with a lovely inoffensive little dog.
Wow. Where do you start. Often the owners are worse than the dogs. Poor poor man. Hope he and his little dog are OK.

Hope Rugby School sack the barstewards, I really do and hope they have a custodial sentence for their appalling behaviour, although I see he is not taking matters further.
 

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My turn today 😥. I was meeting friends for a walk and I arrived early so decided to have a bit of a wander up the country lane to kill some time. I saw a car in the fields driving slowly round with dogs following. As we came back down the same lane, the car was close to the hedge and fence and I could see two border collies and the guy (presumably the farmer) out of the vehicle. One collie was eyeballing us so I spoke to Tay loudly enough to alert the owner of the collies that we were there. The eyeballing dog then barked a couple of times, ran to a bit of the fence it could get through and just literally launched itself, full attack mode, at Tay’s face. She was on lead so couldn’t get away so defended herself and I tried kicking the dog to get it off and called for the owner to call their bloody dog. He shouted “Bob Bob Bob Bob”’ but of course Bob took no notice whatsoever and continued his unprovoked attack. The farmer then drove off and beeped his horn which thankfully worked and Bob took off after him. I checked Tay over and thankfully there were no physical injuries and she bounced back pretty quickly but incidents like this make me think that walking anywhere other than my hills at home is a risky business. It seems to happen so often these days 😢
 

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I'm not sure this exactly counts as an irresponsible owner, but I'm not quite sure what it is...
I met my first american bully today at dog club where her new owner brought her in. She seems like a friendly if uneducated dog but the owner is a frail looking older man who can't hold her (I was really worried he would end up face down in the grass) and doesn't really seem to have a clue. Dog's backstory is dodgy at best. She's supposed to be 18 months old and a private rehome because kids have grown up and stay at home mum has gone back to work. The size of her teats strongly hints that she's already had a litter. The owner doesn't seem to have much of a clue. He is intent on losing some fingers by wrapping the lead around them despite me and other trainers telling him multiple times not to do it. He doesn't speak to the dog (she's not a mind-reader!) and seems more interested in talking to people than paying attention to her. As I was quite curious about how he ended up with such unsuitable looking dog, I tentatively went fishing for information: is she is only dog? Oh no, he's got 3 other, but they're easy: a malinois, an anatolian sheperd and a tcheco-slovaquian wolf-dog. I really don't know what to think as he doesn't seem to know one end of a dog from the other, but I really hope I never come across him walking one of his dogs, let alone all four! He was also very resistant to the idea of bringing treats or a toy that the dog likes next time. I just hope for everyone's sake that dog stays out of trouble.
 

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I'm not sure this exactly counts as an irresponsible owner, but I'm not quite sure what it is...
I met my first american bully today at dog club where her new owner brought her in. She seems like a friendly if uneducated dog but the owner is a frail looking older man who can't hold her (I was really worried he would end up face down in the grass) and doesn't really seem to have a clue. Dog's backstory is dodgy at best. She's supposed to be 18 months old and a private rehome because kids have grown up and stay at home mum has gone back to work. The size of her teats strongly hints that she's already had a litter. The owner doesn't seem to have much of a clue. He is intent on losing some fingers by wrapping the lead around them despite me and other trainers telling him multiple times not to do it. He doesn't speak to the dog (she's not a mind-reader!) and seems more interested in talking to people than paying attention to her. As I was quite curious about how he ended up with such unsuitable looking dog, I tentatively went fishing for information: is she is only dog? Oh no, he's got 3 other, but they're easy: a malinois, an anatolian sheperd and a tcheco-slovaquian wolf-dog. I really don't know what to think as he doesn't seem to know one end of a dog from the other, but I really hope I never come across him walking one of his dogs, let alone all four! He was also very resistant to the idea of bringing treats or a toy that the dog likes next time. I just hope for everyone's sake that dog stays out of trouble.

That sounds very scarey , but seems typical these days that the wrong people have such big dogs. At least he has made some effort by bringing the dog to the club for training, but no good if he won’t listen
 

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That sounds very scarey , but seems typical these days that the wrong people have such big dogs. At least he has made some effort by bringing the dog to the club for training, but no good if he won’t listen
Yes, that's why I'm not sure what to think, as he has brought her to training. I'm sort of half hoping the other three dogs don't exist or are extremely elderly or something. I'm still trying to understand how he saw an american bully and thought "yep, just what I need". Then again, this is France, maybe he doesn't walk any of them and they all live in the yard....
 

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Idiotic man with Rottweiler (yes him again), let his dog off on the public footpath that runs through some of our farms land, without checking to see if any horses were out. Two geldings were out (one is 31) and they were chased by the Rottweiler, with it jumping up at them trying to bite them. Man was screaming its name but to no avail. Eventually he managed to get hold of it and thank god, the horses are ok.
The only way we found out was a man from the neighbouring houses that backs onto the field heard the commotion and watched it out of his window. It was at about 7.15am. He came round that day to tell us what had happened. Rottweiler owner scarpered, as always. He’s already been warned about this dog, after it attacked a dog locally.
 

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Check this ‘guide to irresponsible ownership’ out on Daily Mail… blood pressure warning required.

Tick boxes:
- Spanish rescue imports
- reluctance to put dogs on a lead despite full knowledge of no recall at all
- shouting ‘it’s ok!’ While running after dog which is harassing other dogs. Describes other owner in negative language due to less than happy response
- owner injured due to breaking up a fight and dog pulling towards a squirrel. Still not permanently on leads …
- has an interest in instagrammability and nice collars
- dog has chased sheep with no recall, these belonged to a close relative who was ‘silently furious’
- deliberately allowed a dog with no recall to ‘potter about in the bushes’ in a public park whilst she did some sit ups on the park jungle jim. Dog disappeared to chase a red setter and some terriers.

‘I can smell other dog walkers' disapproval now’. NO SH*T SHERLOCK

It’s an interesting insight into the mind of a selfish fool, but I suppose at least she has tried a bit. Her dad (who has a perfectly trained spaniel) should give her a good telling off.

 

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Check this ‘guide to irresponsible ownership’ out on Daily Mail… blood pressure warning required.

Tick boxes:
- Spanish rescue imports
- reluctance to put dogs on a lead despite full knowledge of no recall at all
- shouting ‘it’s ok!’ While running after dog which is harassing other dogs. Describes other owner in negative language due to less than happy response
- owner injured due to breaking up a fight and dog pulling towards a squirrel. Still not permanently on leads …
- has an interest in instagrammability and nice collars
- dog has chased sheep with no recall, these belonged to a close relative who was ‘silently furious’
- deliberately allowed a dog with no recall to ‘potter about in the bushes’ in a public park whilst she did some sit ups on the park jungle jim. Dog disappeared to chase a red setter and some terriers.

‘I can smell other dog walkers' disapproval now’. NO SH*T SHERLOCK

It’s an interesting insight into the mind of a selfish fool, but I suppose at least she has tried a bit. Her dad (who has a perfectly trained spaniel) should give her a good telling off.


She gets points for trying to train it to not chase sheep, but why doesn't she keep it on a lead at all times? The paragraph about dad's spaniel annoyed me with its implication that her dad was slightly unreasonable for expecting a dog to be perfectly trained to walk and heel and recall.
 

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Idiotic man with Rottweiler (yes him again), let his dog off on the public footpath that runs through some of our farms land, without checking to see if any horses were out. Two geldings were out (one is 31) and they were chased by the Rottweiler, with it jumping up at them trying to bite them. Man was screaming its name but to no avail. Eventually he managed to get hold of it and thank god, the horses are ok.
The only way we found out was a man from the neighbouring houses that backs onto the field heard the commotion and watched it out of his window. It was at about 7.15am. He came round that day to tell us what had happened. Rottweiler owner scarpered, as always. He’s already been warned about this dog, after it attacked a dog locally.
I hope it’s been reported to the police.
 

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Idiotic man with Rottweiler (yes him again), let his dog off on the public footpath that runs through some of our farms land, without checking to see if any horses were out. Two geldings were out (one is 31) and they were chased by the Rottweiler, with it jumping up at them trying to bite them. Man was screaming its name but to no avail. Eventually he managed to get hold of it and thank god, the horses are ok.
The only way we found out was a man from the neighbouring houses that backs onto the field heard the commotion and watched it out of his window. It was at about 7.15am. He came round that day to tell us what had happened. Rottweiler owner scarpered, as always. He’s already been warned about this dog, after it attacked a dog locally.
It sounds as if now is the time to report him again. Dogwarden told me that livestock chasing is a police matter after I complained about a dog in with our sheep
 

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Check this ‘guide to irresponsible ownership’ out on Daily Mail… blood pressure warning required.

Tick boxes:
- Spanish rescue imports
- reluctance to put dogs on a lead despite full knowledge of no recall at all
- shouting ‘it’s ok!’ While running after dog which is harassing other dogs. Describes other owner in negative language due to less than happy response
- owner injured due to breaking up a fight and dog pulling towards a squirrel. Still not permanently on leads …
- has an interest in instagrammability and nice collars
- dog has chased sheep with no recall, these belonged to a close relative who was ‘silently furious’
- deliberately allowed a dog with no recall to ‘potter about in the bushes’ in a public park whilst she did some sit ups on the park jungle jim. Dog disappeared to chase a red setter and some terriers.

‘I can smell other dog walkers' disapproval now’. NO SH*T SHERLOCK

It’s an interesting insight into the mind of a selfish fool, but I suppose at least she has tried a bit. Her dad (who has a perfectly trained spaniel) should give her a good telling off.

These are primitive hunting breeds, has ANY thought gone into whether the lifestyle is suitable for the dogs?? Literally setting herself up to fail 🙄
 
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