Irresponsible Owners

[CorvusCorax]

He'll be 5 in August.

He's just had a couple of small wins then

Just don't drop your guard and expect the unexpected and maybe go back to basics for a while. Re him going for the other dog, I was taught not to put them straight away after any altercation but to 'give them something to to' so that they don't go back to a place of refuge either stressed to the eyeballs or thinking 'I sure showed him!'

There are big silver nets you can get to cover an entire vehicle, a lot of people use them on the continent (I just use silver foil and magnets), plus fans etc.

 

[Titchy Pony]

He's just had a couple of small wins then

Just don't drop your guard and expect the unexpected and maybe go back to basics for a while. Re him going for the other dog, I was taught not to put them straight away after any altercation but to 'give them something to to' so that they don't go back to a place of refuge either stressed to the eyeballs or thinking 'I sure showed him!'

There are big silver nets you can get to cover an entire vehicle, a lot of people use them on the continent (I just use silver foil and magnets), plus fans etc.

Thank you. Back to basics is definitely the plan, as well as working on impulse control. Interesting about not putting him straight away after going for the other dog. The trainers told me to put him away and ignore him. It's just like with horses, isn't it? So many different opinions, it's a minefield.
I'll be looking into the silver nets.

 

[Clodagh]

My turn

Daisy was attacked on the beach today, by a dog of a similar size. Thankfully my boot swiftly made contact with it, and after sailing a few feet in the air it scurried back to mother. No harm done to Daisy other than being shocked and upset.

Admittedly I was raging and the air was blue - but the woman just sat there looking at me. Face completely blank - as if I were speaking a foreign language. She didn’t even have the gumption to confront me about kicking her dog

Sorry, just had to offload.

I wonder if she was actually scared and just doing what a non confrontational dog would and pretended you weren’t there until you went away? I’d have been exactly the same as you though!

 

[CorvusCorax]

Thank you. Back to basics is definitely the plan, as well as working on impulse control. Interesting about not putting him straight away after going for the other dog. The trainers told me to put him away and ignore him. It's just like with horses, isn't it? So many different opinions, it's a minefield.
I'll be looking into the silver nets.

The person who told me that was a veteran police dog trainer, his operational Malinois was a phenomenal dog (and I'm not even a big Mali fan) and competed in both police nationals and at international level in civilian sports.
Putting them away is the human response (because **we** are stressed and fed up and it's easy) not necessarily one which will teach the dog anything. For them, it's like going back to the corner after a round of boxing for a nice rest.

 

[MurphysMinder]

Thank you. Back to basics is definitely the plan, as well as working on impulse control. Interesting about not putting him straight away after going for the other dog. The trainers told me to put him away and ignore him. It's just like with horses, isn't it? So many different opinions, it's a minefield.
I'll be looking into the silver nets.

The silver nets are aluminet, you can find slightly cheaper versions. Like CC I secure with magnets from Amazon. They are great at keeping vehicle cool as they let the air through.

 

[Titchy Pony]

The person who told me that was a veteran police dog trainer, his operational Malinois was a phenomenal dog (and I'm not even a big Mali fan) and competed in both police nationals and at international level in civilian sports.
Putting them away is the human response (because **we** are stressed and fed up and it's easy) not necessarily one which will teach the dog anyhing. For them, it's like going back to the corner after a round of boxing for a nice rest.

OK, noted. Hopefully won't need to use my new found knowledge any time soon but filed away for future reference.

 

[Titchy Pony]

The silver nets are aluminet, you can find slightly cheaper versions. Like CC I secure with magnets from Amazon. They are great at keeping vehicle cool as they let the air through.

I'll have a look tonight, thanks.

 

[GSD Woman]

I'll be looking into the silver nets.

I have a few of the silver nets. Their a great investment. Luckily one of my dogs won one for winning an obedience class eons ago. They've kept my car cool. I also recommend getting a battery operated fan. Ryobi is the brand of choice here.

 

[anguscat]

The silver nets are aluminet, you can find slightly cheaper versions. Like CC I secure with magnets from Amazon. They are great at keeping vehicle cool as they let the air through.

Found the net, can’t find magnets…found magnets for helping mount a car phone. Any hot tips to find em?

 

[CorvusCorax]

I use the Top-Matics magnet training system anyway, I have about four pairs, the black ones are OK but the red ones are super strong and have attached me to cars, Portakabins, fridges, radiators and a shop doorway. Always fun to hear 'CLUNG' and go flying backwards and be stuck to something.

I think MCRS are cheaper. Or a hardware store or search 'strong magnets' on Amazon.

 

[anguscat]

I use the Top-Matics magnet training system anyway, I have about four pairs, the black ones are OK but the red ones are super strong and have attached me to cars, Portakabins, fridges, radiators and a shop doorway. Always fun to hear 'CLUNG' and go flying backwards and be stuck to something.

I think MCRS are cheaper. Or a hardware store or search 'strong magnets' on Amazon.

Thanks very much

 

[MurphysMinder]

Found the net, can’t find magnets…found magnets for helping mount a car phone. Any hot tips to find em?

Search Amazon for car wrap magnets

 

[anguscat]

Search Amazon for car wrap magnets

Great. Thanks

 

[AmyMay]

I wonder if she was actually scared and just doing what a non confrontational dog would and pretended you weren’t there until you went away? I’d have been exactly the same as you though!

She didn’t look scared, just nonplussed. But I’d have been scared confronted by ‘me’ in that moment- so perhaps

 

[GSD Woman]

You can also try rumen magnets to hold the sheets on the car.

 

[anguscat]

You can also try rumen magnets to hold the sheets on the car.

Well that was an interesting Google!!

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

Forgot to post the other day, I thought maybe I was an irresponsible-ish owner last weekend. We took Ivy to a really small horse/pony/dog show and although we went last year (and got 2nd prettiest bitch!), she bubbled over a few times - flipping about at the end of the lead and yelping/squawking/her version of barking, sometimes looking like she wanted to chase the horses. We managed it by moving back away from busier areas and not too close to the rings. We stuck it out and with the help of a hot dog sausage managed to get her looking and focusing on us, and mostly settled on her blanket.

We've had mixed success taking her to horse events - she's done smaller ones quite successfully but found a bigger one (Cornbury so still not massive) challenging at points. I think it's the cumulative effect of more people, noises, smells etc. rather than so much she actually has much interest in the horses (she used to be my hacking companion along with OH, and was always good as gold at the yard). Horses cantering seem to push things over the edge if she's already pepped up from everything else going on.

Do we just keep doing what we're doing or accept she just finds things like that a bit much?

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Blasted dog Walker at the end of her walk with 3 in yer face dogs, other owner at the start of his walk with several dogs, blocking the whole path. I nearly tripped over her dogs which were getting under my feet. Our lot were fabulous, Goose was a bit intimidated, we just diverted round them and he came with us. Finished the walk and they’re in exactly the same place! Dog Walker then followed us back to the car park, other guy carried on.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Forgot to post the other day, I thought maybe I was an irresponsible-ish owner last weekend. We took Ivy to a really small horse/pony/dog show and although we went last year (and got 2nd prettiest bitch!), she bubbled over a few times - flipping about at the end of the lead and yelping/squawking/her version of barking, sometimes looking like she wanted to chase the horses. We managed it by moving back away from busier areas and not too close to the rings. We stuck it out and with the help of a hot dog sausage managed to get her looking and focusing on us, and mostly settled on her blanket.

We've had mixed success taking her to horse events - she's done smaller ones quite successfully but found a bigger one (Cornbury so still not massive) challenging at points. I think it's the cumulative effect of more people, noises, smells etc. rather than so much she actually has much interest in the horses (she used to be my hacking companion along with OH, and was always good as gold at the yard). Horses cantering seem to push things over the edge if she's already pepped up from everything else going on.

Do we just keep doing what we're doing or accept she just finds things like that a bit much?

My young female can get overwhelmed very easily, I take her to places where I know we can get some space and retreat quickly if required. If there are additional stressors, things that normally don't bother her will probably bother her.

 

[SaddlePsych'D]

My young female can get overwhelmed very easily, I take her to places where I know we can get some space and retreat quickly if required. If there are additional stressors, things that normally don't bother her will probably bother her.

Possibly didn't help we didn't do a walk with her before we went. I think if we had she might have been a bit tired out and had some relaxing trotting about/sniffing time in a familiar place before going on to something a bit challenging. We'd never take her to really big/busy events because I think those can be challenging for a lot of dogs anyway (also for me, I'm not up for Badminton-esque crowds!)

The sausage really did help because it brought her focus to us/the sausage and stopped her from keep winding herself up watching everything going on. With a retreat to a quieter area and some settle/watch me practice she was at one point relaxed enough to be laying down flat out

 

[CorvusCorax]

If I'm going somewhere that I know is going to be stressy I always bring The Good Stuff makes a nice positive association.

It just depends, if I try to tire her out first sometimes we lose the focus, it's like having an exhausted toddler.

 

[Smitty]

And so, to the person who's dog pooed right outside my front door on the pavement, I shall get a video doorbell (I think there are things like that!) and hunt you down if it happens again .

I am now going to deal with it as although the postman has avoided it today, the bin men come in the morning and they may not be so lucky. GRRR

 

[scats]

Walking past a nearby house this morning with JD and a lurcher pup comes flying out unattended and starts following JD. I stop and wait to see if anyone appears from the house and nobody does. I try to take hold of pup and it runs into the road. Fortunately an approaching car had seen and slowed down. I managed to get hold of pup out of the road, with my old dog in tow, and take it back to the driveway of house, where a gormless teenage lad of about 17/18 appears calling it’s name. I told him it’s just ran into the road and he looked at me blankly, took the dog and went in. No ‘thank you’ or any acknowledgment. Just aswell we were there and it didn’t just fly out of the driveway into the path of a car.

 

[Pearlsasinger]

My young female can get overwhelmed very easily, I take her to places where I know we can get some space and retreat quickly if required. If there are additional stressors, things that normally don't bother her will probably bother her.

Our yellow bitch is easily overwhelmed by smells.
She is used to walking along a quiet road with cars passing us singly but gets overwhelmed in situations where cars are moving quickly. She used to find car parks scary, as a pup even with all vehicles stationary but she has got used to car parks with practice. I wonder if the smells associated with vehicles are/were too strong for her, especially combined with the noises.

 

[TheresaW]

I don’t think I’m an irresponsible owner, I don’t suppose anyone does. Out walking with friends at weekend. People come towards us, Bo straight on lead. I tuck him to one side, close to me. Explain as people walk by that he’s nervous. One person, just ignores everything and walks towards him with arm outstretched. I won’t lie, I shouted him to back off.

 

[Smitty]

I shouted OFF at my dog when he jumped up at a man who asked if he could stroke him. Poor man thought I was shouting at him and backed off very quickly, saying he hadn't done anything wrong. I was puzzled for a while until it occurred to me most people would say down and he thought I was reprimanding him!!

 

[CorvusCorax]

I got bit at the weekend (not badly, just a torn trouser leg, small tooth mark and graze) for the crime of walking into a room, standing side on and not making eye contact.

Then had to have a long H&S conflab with the owner and tell them that the dog is not 'protecting' them, I was presenting no threat whatsoever and it's an extremely insecure dog who sees threats when there are none because they cannot step up and take control of the situation/give clear guidance.

Strict instructions to keep it away from 'strangers'. Because I certainly won't be having anything more to do with it.

Not irresponsible per se, just completely blinkered.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Our yellow bitch is easily overwhelmed by smells.
She is used to walking along a quiet road with cars passing us singly but gets overwhelmed in situations where cars are moving quickly. She used to find car parks scary, as a pup even with all vehicles stationary but she has got used to car parks with practice. I wonder if the smells associated with vehicles are/were too strong for her, especially combined with the noises.

Goose used to terrified of moving cars. I spent a lot of time sitting at a bus stop just letting him see that they wouldn’t get him, feeding treats the while.

 

[Smitty]

I got bit at the weekend (not badly, just a torn trouser leg, small tooth mark and graze) for the crime of walking into a room, standing side on and not making eye contact.

Then had to have a long H&S conflab with the owner and tell them that the dog is not 'protecting' them, I was presenting no threat whatsoever and it's an extremely insecure dog who sees threats when there are none because they cannot step up and take control of the situation/give clear guidance.

Strict instructions to keep it away from 'strangers'. Because I certainly won't be having anything more to do with it.

Not irresponsible per se, just completely blinkered.

Probably been told that by a "behaviourist".

I know one that comes out with that sort of thing but has changed job (a few times!!) and now redesigns kitchens

 

[Pearlsasinger]

Goose used to terrified of moving cars. I spent a lot of time sitting at a bus stop just letting him see that they wouldn’t get him, feeding treats the while.

We don't have a bus stop to sit at!
I did think that she had got over it, as she hadn't seemed bothered since she got older until we walked from a friend's house to the river, so that the dogs could swim, last summer. This involved crossing a road near a junction with 2 other roads and very close to a railway viaduct, which might have had a train running on it at the time. She started twirling and was quite unsettled until we got to somewhere much quieter.
It's not a route we use a lot, the roads round us are usually very quiet and she understands carparks now, so we and she, will cope.