GSD Woman
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Rudy, who isn't bothered by much, doesn't like big, noisy vehicles. I blame myself because when he was young I was working overnight in the vet ER so he didn't get to see EVERYTHING.
Irresponsible Owners
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CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Probably been told that by a "behaviourist".
I know one that comes out with that sort of thing but has changed job (a few times!!) and now redesigns kitchens
Nah, known the owner my whole life, one of their dogs bit my mother in the 70s , it's a recurring theme
GSD Woman
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CC, I can't remember who originally said it but insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Yep.....
Goldenstar
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Enstein said it .
GSD Woman
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Goldenstar,
Thanks. I thought it was Einstein but I no longer trust my memory like I used to.
Thanks. I thought it was Einstein but I no longer trust my memory like I used to.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
Good job you didn’t just drive past, did she thank you ?
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ArklePig
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Brought Fodhla to a cafe based at a dog park this morning as we're still training her to behave in cafes and pubs etc (fell by the way side with more pressing training issues). We purposely went to the quietest corner. My dog was lying beside me on a mat with her lead clipped around the table leg, when not one but two other owners in short succession decided to march their dogs up to us and tell their dogs 'say hi to the nice dog'. Cause every on lead dog tied to a table leg wants to have another dog in their face 
The first owner was told politely to F off the second owner slightly less politely. Please let me train my dog in peace she had been doing so well too not a peep out of her.
The first owner was told politely to F off the second owner slightly less politely. Please let me train my dog in peace she had been doing so well too not a peep out of her.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Good for you!
BallyRoanBaubles
Buys real biscuits
I really can’t understand owners like that 
Pearlsasinger
Up in the clouds
It drives me mad! We get it too and of course they always pick on the brown one to upset.Brought Fodhla to a cafe based at a dog park this morning as we're still training her to behave in cafes and pubs etc (fell by the way side with more pressing training issues). We purposely went to the quietest corner. My dog was lying beside me on a mat with her lead clipped around the table leg, when not one but two other owners in short succession decided to march their dogs up to us and tell their dogs 'say hi to the nice dog'. Cause every on lead dog tied to a table leg wants to have another dog in their face
The first owner was told politely to F off the second owner slightly less politely. Please let me train my dog in peace she had been doing so well too not a peep out of her.
We have a relative who took on a failed foreign adoption. The dog is lovely, absolutely fine with other dogs but nervous of people. He wears a bandana and a lead that say 'leave me alone' or similar. Recently one woman insisted on getting hold of his lead to read it better, this involved practically touching the lead with her nose. Stupid woman! The owner gave her very short shrift!
ArklePig
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That's awful PS, that poor dog, and your poor brown one.
Even if my dog wasn't in training in this scenario earlier she still deserves to chill out and not have some eejit's dog in her face. She is excellent with other dogs but I'm afraid she won't stay like that if she has dogs bothering her in such scenarios.
I read all the books, articles, stalked this forum for years before I got her, but absolutely nothing prepared me for other dog owners and how stupid they can be. Eugh the more I think about it the more wound up I'm getting, wish I'd been ruder in hindsight
Even if my dog wasn't in training in this scenario earlier she still deserves to chill out and not have some eejit's dog in her face. She is excellent with other dogs but I'm afraid she won't stay like that if she has dogs bothering her in such scenarios.
I read all the books, articles, stalked this forum for years before I got her, but absolutely nothing prepared me for other dog owners and how stupid they can be. Eugh the more I think about it the more wound up I'm getting, wish I'd been ruder in hindsight
MurphysMinder
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Brought Fodhla to a cafe based at a dog park this morning as we're still training her to behave in cafes and pubs etc (fell by the way side with more pressing training issues). We purposely went to the quietest corner. My dog was lying beside me on a mat with her lead clipped around the table leg, when not one but two other owners in short succession decided to march their dogs up to us and tell their dogs 'say hi to the nice dog'. Cause every on lead dog tied to a table leg wants to have another dog in their face
The first owner was told politely to F off the second owner slightly less politely. Please let me train my dog in peace she had been doing so well too not a peep out of her.
I take Zenya regularly to a local town which is great for socialisation, you can sit in the square and be as close or as distant as you want from other dogs. On one of her first visits when she was about 5 months old (she was 4 months when I got her) I went with my friend with her very well trained dog, who can be reactive if other dogs get in his space. There was a lady wandering round with a lab on a flexi lead which was going up to everyone, dog and person. We heaved a sigh of relief when she disappeared, for her to appear about 5 minutes later heading straight for us announcing "I promised her she could come and say hello to your doggies". I think the whole town heard the "NO" which my friend and I shouted at the same time, luckily she got the message and wandered off, no doubt muttering about miserable people not letting their "doggies" say hello. People can be so stupid !
ponyparty
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Not irresponsible owners but just irresponsible people. Was on a mini break on the coast the weekend, with the dog in tow. Why is it that if a child asks to stroke my dog and I say “no” (politely and explaining why) they listen and comply. But when an adult does the same, I get “oh no, dogs love me” - they all think they’re Dr Doolittle 
luckily Frank was very tolerant, despite being clearly uncomfortable with the unwanted attention. I, however, was not as tolerant after a few persistent offenders. Think I’ve now perfected my “don’t even try it” face as the second day wasn’t as bad for it as the first 
luckily Frank was very tolerant, despite being clearly uncomfortable with the unwanted attention. I, however, was not as tolerant after a few persistent offenders. Think I’ve now perfected my “don’t even try it” face as the second day wasn’t as bad for it as the first
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Not irresponsible owners but just irresponsible people. Was on a mini break on the coast the weekend, with the dog in tow. Why is it that if a child asks to stroke my dog and I say “no” (politely and explaining why) they listen and comply. But when an adult does the same, I get “oh no, dogs love me” - they all think they’re Dr Doolittle
I always tell those people 'Yes, I love George Clooney but I'm guessing he doesn't feel the same about me'
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Also...was chatting about this to a friend the other day...neither of us is going to risk taking our young females into town centres again. You cannot control the actions of idiots and for certain dogs, one bad interaction can set all your hard work back by months.
Yes, they're related
A mutual friend has a young dog who walks around town with hackles up and they wanted to...get after the dog during training to try and fix it. WTF. The dog is telegraphing that it's unhappy so the solution is to try and extinguish the behaviour in a completely different scenario? Just leave the poor bloody thing at home. There's no 'need' to parade it around the town.
A few of the young dogs in that group of different breeds are iffy, IMO because they all fell for this trend of going to a particular town plaza and let unknown people come right in on top of the dogs and pet them on the head for 'socialisation'.
Yes, they're related
A mutual friend has a young dog who walks around town with hackles up and they wanted to...get after the dog during training to try and fix it. WTF. The dog is telegraphing that it's unhappy so the solution is to try and extinguish the behaviour in a completely different scenario? Just leave the poor bloody thing at home. There's no 'need' to parade it around the town.
A few of the young dogs in that group of different breeds are iffy, IMO because they all fell for this trend of going to a particular town plaza and let unknown people come right in on top of the dogs and pet them on the head for 'socialisation'.
Clodagh
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But I think I’d have to stroke him and possibly kiss his nose if I met him on the street.I always tell those people 'Yes, I love George Clooney but I'm guessing he doesn't feel the same about me'
Pearlsasinger
Up in the clouds
Then you would have to be prepared for him to bite you - and acknowledge that it was your own fault!But I think I’d have to stroke him and possibly kiss his nose if I met him on the street.
Smitty
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My blinking dog is oversociable with people so I did something wrong, but slightly unpredictable on a lead with other dogs getting in his face. I usually whip him away before they get a chance, he does nothing worse than growl or snap though.
ponyparty
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It’s doubly frustrating with Frank because he was, at one point, not a nervous Nellie at all. He came to festivals with me, pubs, cafes, you name it. But covid isolation and a few things that happened to dent his confidence and he’s more nervous these days. He’s gradually getting better and becoming more like his old self so I’m taking him out and about a bit more - but as you say, it’ll only take one idiot who won’t leave him alone to undo all the hard work and patience. I’ve tried the signs on leads saying “anxious dog, do not pet” and the numpties just ignore them, because They Know Better. Which then ends in me losing my shit/becoming “reactive”Also...was chatting about this to a friend the other day...neither of us is going to risk taking our young females into town centres again. You cannot control the actions of idiots and for certain dogs, one bad interaction can set all your hard work back by months.
Yes, they're related
A mutual friend has a young dog who walks around town with hackles up and they wanted to...get after the dog during training to try and fix it. WTF. The dog is telegraphing that it's unhappy so the solution is to try and extinguish the behaviour in a completely different scenario? Just leave the poor bloody thing at home. There's no 'need' to parade it around the town.
A few of the young dogs in that group of different breeds are iffy, IMO because they all fell for this trend of going to a particular town plaza and let unknown people come right in on top of the dogs and pet them on the head for 'socialisation'.
Clodagh
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I’m very reactive. I need a ‘give me space’ bib.It’s doubly frustrating with Frank because he was, at one point, not a nervous Nellie at all. He came to festivals with me, pubs, cafes, you name it. But covid isolation and a few things that happened to dent his confidence and he’s more nervous these days. He’s gradually getting better and becoming more like his old self so I’m taking him out and about a bit more - but as you say, it’ll only take one idiot who won’t leave him alone to undo all the hard work and patience. I’ve tried the signs on leads saying “anxious dog, do not pet” and the numpties just ignore them, because They Know Better. Which then ends in me losing my shit/becoming “reactive”
Except with George.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
But I think I’d have to stroke him and possibly kiss his nose if I met him on the street.
Me too, I think he might object to an oldie getting too close though , might be worth the risk of a bite
equinerebel
Well-Known Member
A gentle moan about my very lovely parents and their complete lack of disciplining their dogs. Love them to pieces but my god spending time at their house is headache inducing 
Clodagh
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I feel your pain, it’s the same with my in laws. Apparently I’m a horrible person for objecting to their 5 dogs climbing on the table and stealing food while we are eating. My dogs are sad robots for going to lie down when told.A gentle moan about my very lovely parents and their complete lack of disciplining their dogs. Love them to pieces but my god spending time at their house is headache inducing
Annette4
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And I thought mine were badly behaved for excessive (but not protracted) barking when someone comes into the house and occasionally jumping up their favourite people!
Clodagh
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Mine do all of that, tbh! Well not jumping up but barking and pestering for attention. I opt out now and they are all kennelled when we have visitors of any description except Tawny, who knows how to behave.
equinerebel
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I just ask for basic manners and obedience!
Errin Paddywack
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Me too. I adore my dogs and they are spoilt in many ways but still have good manners.
misst
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So todays walk was ruined. I waited until the rain eased and took my 2 terriers and my granddaughter aged 6 out the front onto the common for our usual walk. It was not our usual time and lots of others were out. Halfway through the walk I saw a really cute terrier type dashing in all directions in the woods quite near the public carpark. I said to granddaught "he looks lost" so I was looking out for an owner and for the dog if I could get near. After a minute or so a dog walker I did not recognise appeared with about 5 other dogs of various sizes all off lead yelling for a dog. Eventually the terrier reappeared and joined her. Not impressed.
Next a very large black lab came bounding out of the woods onto our path and leapt at us both. I pushed him hard with my forearm/elbow as he nearly knocked me off balance and narrowly missed my granddaughter. Owner appeared and gave me a filthy look. My reactive terrier was not happy - tail tucked ears back cowering but lip curling (he does not make contact but makes it clear he is uncomfortable). Owner then allowed black lab to nose terrier so I pushed him away again and walked briskly off with my two while she tut tutted.
Not 5 minutes later we saw a huge ?husky ? malamute? off lead coming towards us with no sign of an owner but the bells on his collar ringing away. I assume this means he runs off and owner can find him more easily. We quickly turned down a side path heading in the opposite direction with my girl on lead (she can be a bit silly and play with other dogs who are not suitable) and my boy trotting ahead happily. The bells trundled up behind us and the big dog proceeded to paw at my on lead girl in a sort of curious way. It was very rough and not really playful but not actually aggressive. But he was big and off lead and still no owner in sight and I did not want to start grabbing or pushing him because I had a child with me. I shouted across the gorse and scrub between the two paths if you're there can you call your dog please. Guess what the reply was....."don't worry he's friendly". I said mine aren't friendly please call him NOW. He then started to nose at my off lead boy really oddly sort of cornering him and almost tipping him over roughly. I really don't know if he was trying to play but he was huge and my lad weighs 5.2kg. A lady appeared full of "oh sorry I wondered where he'd gone. Come on then boy". I looked and saw she also had a large GSD off lead though that one was sticking by her and seemed totally uninterested in any of the goings on.
At that point I had had enough and went straight home. I was upset, my dogs were both upset and my granddaughter was a bit scared by the final dog as he wouldn't leave ours alone.
Out of interest if anyone can explain the husky types behavior I would be interested. He was not openly aggressive but seemed curious and rough, something about he made me uncomfortable but I don't know if that was because I am not great with very big "in your face" dogs.
Next a very large black lab came bounding out of the woods onto our path and leapt at us both. I pushed him hard with my forearm/elbow as he nearly knocked me off balance and narrowly missed my granddaughter. Owner appeared and gave me a filthy look. My reactive terrier was not happy - tail tucked ears back cowering but lip curling (he does not make contact but makes it clear he is uncomfortable). Owner then allowed black lab to nose terrier so I pushed him away again and walked briskly off with my two while she tut tutted.
Not 5 minutes later we saw a huge ?husky ? malamute? off lead coming towards us with no sign of an owner but the bells on his collar ringing away. I assume this means he runs off and owner can find him more easily. We quickly turned down a side path heading in the opposite direction with my girl on lead (she can be a bit silly and play with other dogs who are not suitable) and my boy trotting ahead happily. The bells trundled up behind us and the big dog proceeded to paw at my on lead girl in a sort of curious way. It was very rough and not really playful but not actually aggressive. But he was big and off lead and still no owner in sight and I did not want to start grabbing or pushing him because I had a child with me. I shouted across the gorse and scrub between the two paths if you're there can you call your dog please. Guess what the reply was....."don't worry he's friendly". I said mine aren't friendly please call him NOW. He then started to nose at my off lead boy really oddly sort of cornering him and almost tipping him over roughly. I really don't know if he was trying to play but he was huge and my lad weighs 5.2kg. A lady appeared full of "oh sorry I wondered where he'd gone. Come on then boy". I looked and saw she also had a large GSD off lead though that one was sticking by her and seemed totally uninterested in any of the goings on.
At that point I had had enough and went straight home. I was upset, my dogs were both upset and my granddaughter was a bit scared by the final dog as he wouldn't leave ours alone.
Out of interest if anyone can explain the husky types behavior I would be interested. He was not openly aggressive but seemed curious and rough, something about he made me uncomfortable but I don't know if that was because I am not great with very big "in your face" dogs.
Goldenstar
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The Husky sounds like a it’s all about me dog whatever he feels is wants happening and that type of dog can change moods in a nano second .
People are so thick it’s just unbelievable.
I don’t know what the answer is is there anywhere quieter you can go when you have your granddaughter that really does not sound very safe .
It was chaos in the village where the other house is today first week of school holidays and every cottage is busy ,loads of town dogs in party mood .
We saw some excellent use of the extendable lead in a built up area how these dogs don’t get run over I have no idea and to top it off someone took there soaking wet filthy spaniel into the deli to get an oat cappuccino which amused me greatly I have never heard that ordered in real life ,the dog was dripping on the crisps in baskets which was a bit off .
People are so thick it’s just unbelievable.
I don’t know what the answer is is there anywhere quieter you can go when you have your granddaughter that really does not sound very safe .
It was chaos in the village where the other house is today first week of school holidays and every cottage is busy ,loads of town dogs in party mood .
We saw some excellent use of the extendable lead in a built up area how these dogs don’t get run over I have no idea and to top it off someone took there soaking wet filthy spaniel into the deli to get an oat cappuccino which amused me greatly I have never heard that ordered in real life ,the dog was dripping on the crisps in baskets which was a bit off .