Clodagh
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I love that! That you said it. Well done you.
Irresponsible Owners
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SaddlePsych'D
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Thanks, it's the sort of thing I'd usually walk away and later wish I'd thought to say it at the time.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Me too. Absolutely well done!,
Smitty
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I had a good one yesterday. Some sort of large on lead poo with a family. Dad was holding the lead. Footpath through a field so room to move out of way but the poo lunged playfully at my on lead dog, who I wisked away, only for dad to say that it was awful on the lead, quite proudly
and the next second he was entangled in the lead and took a crashing fall. Loads of effing and blinding at the dog, he was unable to get up as he had pulled some sort of tendon and then he said to me, teeth clenched in agony, that it was OK, it wasn't my fault. I never for one second thought it was but didn't say so as he was either in considerable pain or a good actor. He then proceeded to tell the dog off, his son told him to stop it and also told me it wasn't my fault 
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Anyway, I offered him cold water for his tendon, offered to get them transport, all of which was gratefully declined, and left him writhing in agony in a field.
I think some form of dog training has it's uses
and the next second he was entangled in the lead and took a crashing fall. Loads of effing and blinding at the dog, he was unable to get up as he had pulled some sort of tendon and then he said to me, teeth clenched in agony, that it was OK, it wasn't my fault. I never for one second thought it was but didn't say so as he was either in considerable pain or a good actor. He then proceeded to tell the dog off, his son told him to stop it and also told me it wasn't my fault . Anyway, I offered him cold water for his tendon, offered to get them transport, all of which was gratefully declined, and left him writhing in agony in a field.
I think some form of dog training has it's uses
CanteringCarrot
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What the actual...
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
Bloke sounds like a loon! Of course it wasn’t your fault!I had a good one yesterday. Some sort of large on lead poo with a family. Dad was holding the lead. Footpath through a field so room to move out of way but the poo lunged playfully at my on lead dog, who I wisked away, only for dad to say that it was awful on the lead, quite proudly
Anyway, I offered him cold water for his tendon, offered to get them transport, all of which was gratefully declined, and left him writhing in agony in a field.
I think some form of dog training has it's uses
Smitty
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Ha ha, I quite agree . I was amazed he thought I was worried it was 
. I was amazed he thought I was worried it was Morwenna
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There are two bully type dogs locally that have attacked a few other dogs including my friend’s spaniel costing her thousands in vet bills. They are still walked unmuzzled. Some idiot on the local Facebook page told me that they’d seen the dogs tied up outside the shops and they are ‘soft as anything’ so if they attacked any dogs it must be the other dog’s fault. I think I may be about to be banned from Facebook for my response to this…
GSD Woman
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I wish people could learn the difference between human aggression and dog/animal aggression.
Morwenna
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Or being ok with people in some situations but not others. I’ve seen dogs with their prey drive activated by squealing children / people running / something I can’t see. Some dogs give very little warning and it doesn’t take much to tip them into aggression.
GSD Woman
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Morwenna, that would require people being honest with themselves about what dogs are capable of, that effectively training isn't cruel and that dogs aren't little "fur babies" or some other gag worthy term.
Gloi
Too little time, too much to read.
Going to pony this morning there was a ginger cockapoo loose on the lane (quite a busy lane) . I stopped and so did a couple of others but it was a bit shy and had no collar on so nobody managed to get it. It ran down a farm lane off the main one and I followed in the car. There was a group of tents and caravans , maybe a caravan club do, and I called some people I saw. They said it was from a blue tent and had also run off the previous day and the owners weren't too bothered. Two teenagers, not the owners went looking for it but I don't know where it went. At least it was off the road so I left them to it .
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
Not irresponsible per se but just met a couple who have lost their 'usually great off the lead' Cocker who has gone off after a rabbit in a field that is usually teeming with rabbits.
He's currently running between two vast fields and I couldn't see any sign of him. I'd be doing my nut.
He's currently running between two vast fields and I couldn't see any sign of him. I'd be doing my nut.
Escapade
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Thankfully not involving me this time, I was uphill on a track running parallel to the path and had full view.
A man was walking two shepherds which caught sight of a terrier about 50m behind them, which they chased back up the path out of sight, followed with the most awful squealing. Said man, between half-hearted yells of "Roxyyy, Lolaaa..." says repeatedly "it's okay they won't attack". Roxy and Lola eventually return and lie down beside the man who then smacks them each on the nose
No apology, no leads to put on the dogs either that I could see.
The two chaps with the terrier had to walk 5 min back the way they came to collect it. Some reassuring pats and thankfully looking none the worse for wear. I'm not sure I'd have maintained composure as well as they did
A man was walking two shepherds which caught sight of a terrier about 50m behind them, which they chased back up the path out of sight, followed with the most awful squealing. Said man, between half-hearted yells of "Roxyyy, Lolaaa..." says repeatedly "it's okay they won't attack". Roxy and Lola eventually return and lie down beside the man who then smacks them each on the nose
No apology, no leads to put on the dogs either that I could see.The two chaps with the terrier had to walk 5 min back the way they came to collect it. Some reassuring pats and thankfully looking none the worse for wear. I'm not sure I'd have maintained composure as well as they did
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
**'Not naming dogs after EastEnders characters' challenge**
LadyGascoyne
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We don’t have a ‘responsible dog owners’ thread but I just wanted to say that I was at a busy village cafe near Chipping Norton on Saturday morning and there was a horsey-attired lady with a young, very exuberant lurcher type dog.
There was quite a queue for coffee and some other patrons had some dogs with them, at the tables. Young lurcher clearly thought this was the most exciting thing ever, and was pulling hard. Horsey lady must have walked him up and down for about 10 times, stopping the moment he pulled and turning back until he learned to walked quietly without pulling. It was so nice to see someone take the time until the dog settled and not get fussed or fazed about repeating the activity until he got it. He was fine once he got it, and I bet he’ll be a lovely dog.
So if the horsey-lady is on here, I thought it was super handling, so seldom seen these days.
There was quite a queue for coffee and some other patrons had some dogs with them, at the tables. Young lurcher clearly thought this was the most exciting thing ever, and was pulling hard. Horsey lady must have walked him up and down for about 10 times, stopping the moment he pulled and turning back until he learned to walked quietly without pulling. It was so nice to see someone take the time until the dog settled and not get fussed or fazed about repeating the activity until he got it. He was fine once he got it, and I bet he’ll be a lovely dog.
So if the horsey-lady is on here, I thought it was super handling, so seldom seen these days.
GSD Woman
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A Face Book friend who does search and rescue got an eight minute video of some jerk with an off lead that was circling and barking and lunging at 2 horses. Luckily for dog that these were good horses and stood still and didn't squash the dog. The owner did nothing to get the dog but calling it. After 8 minutes you would think the idiot would figure out the dog isn't listening to him.
Heather got a shot of the license plate. The horse owners decided not to turn in the man. He's lucky. He's also lucky that Heather had changed out of S&R clothes. she would have fashioned a snare like a lasso out of vines and nail that sucker. too bad it she was in a skirt and slide sandals. (I have real life friends who know Heather and they know that that plan would not fail.
Heather got a shot of the license plate. The horse owners decided not to turn in the man. He's lucky. He's also lucky that Heather had changed out of S&R clothes. she would have fashioned a snare like a lasso out of vines and nail that sucker. too bad it she was in a skirt and slide sandals. (I have real life friends who know Heather and they know that that plan would not fail.
Titchy Pony
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I think I need to nominate myself as irresponsible owner of the week. After being a good boy and getting his sociability certificate, Monster has decided to remind me not to take anything for granted.
On Sunday, while I was helping with the dog training class, he broke through the fence of the pen where I'd left him (way too hot to leave him in the car, even with windows open), ran onto the training ground and went for another dog. The worst was I couldn't do anything immediately as I'd grabbed on to the Anatolian shepherd that was practicing a stay (really didn't want him joining in the "fun") and had to wait for his owner to come and get him before I could do anything. Luckily other dog is unharmed and doesn't seem to hold a grudge. Her owner was very forgiving and I apologised profusely.
One of the trainers has offered to help me with Monster, but he uses harder methods than my hoopers coach and I really don't think I'll take him up on it. He mentioned "setting the dog up to fail so you can correct it", which really doesn't sit well with me.
My plan was to go back to basics, and be a lot stricter on myself and Monster (I've let things slip a bit lately between family issues, funerals, mild pregnancy upsets - NOT mine!). So this morning before work, we were out with monster on the longline, practicing sits, stays, recalls. He was great, managed to unlock from the small birds he really wanted to chase and get on with it. We were heading home when he suddenly switched back and belted off down the lane. I couldn't hold him and he disappeared after a roe deer I hadn't even initially seen, trailing his 10m line. I lost sight of him for 5-10min before he came back, leaving me terrified he'd caught the line on something. As it is, we're just down a poo-bag holder.
I'm quite upset about it all and wondering what to do next. I've never let go of the longline before and Monster was getting quite good at restraining himself before reaching the end of it when seeing "prey" (I wouldn't give much chance for him to restrain himself if he didn't know he had a line on though). All I can think of is to carry on with basics and build up the distractions and hope it's just a blip in the road.
I hope we can both get off "the naughty list" soon.
On Sunday, while I was helping with the dog training class, he broke through the fence of the pen where I'd left him (way too hot to leave him in the car, even with windows open), ran onto the training ground and went for another dog. The worst was I couldn't do anything immediately as I'd grabbed on to the Anatolian shepherd that was practicing a stay (really didn't want him joining in the "fun") and had to wait for his owner to come and get him before I could do anything. Luckily other dog is unharmed and doesn't seem to hold a grudge. Her owner was very forgiving and I apologised profusely.
One of the trainers has offered to help me with Monster, but he uses harder methods than my hoopers coach and I really don't think I'll take him up on it. He mentioned "setting the dog up to fail so you can correct it", which really doesn't sit well with me.
My plan was to go back to basics, and be a lot stricter on myself and Monster (I've let things slip a bit lately between family issues, funerals, mild pregnancy upsets - NOT mine!). So this morning before work, we were out with monster on the longline, practicing sits, stays, recalls. He was great, managed to unlock from the small birds he really wanted to chase and get on with it. We were heading home when he suddenly switched back and belted off down the lane. I couldn't hold him and he disappeared after a roe deer I hadn't even initially seen, trailing his 10m line. I lost sight of him for 5-10min before he came back, leaving me terrified he'd caught the line on something. As it is, we're just down a poo-bag holder.
I'm quite upset about it all and wondering what to do next. I've never let go of the longline before and Monster was getting quite good at restraining himself before reaching the end of it when seeing "prey" (I wouldn't give much chance for him to restrain himself if he didn't know he had a line on though). All I can think of is to carry on with basics and build up the distractions and hope it's just a blip in the road.
I hope we can both get off "the naughty list" soon.
Parrotperson
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It is just a blip. Do not despair. Reinforce all the training all the time is my mantra. My little guy is pretty good but I’m on top of him all the time. Because there’s always ‘that’ one moment.
Think how far you’ve gone with monster!!! Some dogs just need more reinforcing than others is all.
And everyone gets distracted. Especially when you’ve got a lot going on.
Deep breath. You’re going the right way.
Think how far you’ve gone with monster!!! Some dogs just need more reinforcing than others is all.
And everyone gets distracted. Especially when you’ve got a lot going on.
Deep breath. You’re going the right way.
Titchy Pony
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Thank you, we'll keep trying. He is a good boy really... most of the time.It is just a blip. Do not despair. Reinforce all the training all the time is my mantra. My little guy is pretty good but I’m on top of him all the time. Because there’s always ‘that’ one moment.
Think how far you’ve gone with monster!!! Some dogs just need more reinforcing than others is all.
And everyone gets distracted. Especially when you’ve got a lot going on.
Deep breath. You’re going the right way.
AmyMay
Situation normal
My turn 
Daisy was attacked on the beach today, by a dog of a similar size. Thankfully my boot swiftly made contact with it, and after sailing a few feet in the air it scurried back to mother. No harm done to Daisy other than being shocked and upset.
Admittedly I was raging and the air was blue - but the woman just sat there looking at me. Face completely blank - as if I were speaking a foreign language. She didn’t even have the gumption to confront me about kicking her dog
Sorry, just had to offload.
Daisy was attacked on the beach today, by a dog of a similar size. Thankfully my boot swiftly made contact with it, and after sailing a few feet in the air it scurried back to mother. No harm done to Daisy other than being shocked and upset.
Admittedly I was raging and the air was blue - but the woman just sat there looking at me. Face completely blank - as if I were speaking a foreign language. She didn’t even have the gumption to confront me about kicking her dog
Sorry, just had to offload.
splashgirl45
Lurcher lover
I would have done the same Amymay, glad no one was hurt
CorvusCorax
'It's only a laugh, no harm done'
What age is he now?
Titchy Pony
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He'll be 5 in August.
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
I’d be incandescent.My turn
Daisy was attacked on the beach today, by a dog of a similar size. Thankfully my boot swiftly made contact with it, and after sailing a few feet in the air it scurried back to mother. No harm done to Daisy other than being shocked and upset.
Admittedly I was raging and the air was blue - but the woman just sat there looking at me. Face completely blank - as if I were speaking a foreign language. She didn’t even have the gumption to confront me about kicking her dog
Sorry, just had to offload.
My boot would’ve also made contact and my mouth would’ve been spewing profanities. Did you say anything to her?
AmyMay
Situation normal
Oh, the whole beach heard me! She may also have heard language she’d never heard before!!
What annoyed me the most was her lack of recognition of what happened and lack of apology (not unusual I know).
I must admit, it’s very cathartic telling someone exactly what you think of them, and unleashing the inner daemon
scats
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I hope Daisy is ok. I never used to worry about JD because she was always very dominant if anything ever challenged her and she would never come off worst if something had started (she’d never have started anything- she’s a really well behaved dog) but now she is old and vulnerable and I worry about her getting knocked over by some of these really boisterous types that just come bowling towards us.
If another dog hurt her now, I’d go into an absolute rage.
If another dog hurt her now, I’d go into an absolute rage.
Cinnamontoast
Fais pas chier!
Excellent! I can't believe she didn't apologise! I hope Doo is alright.Oh, the whole beach heard me! She may also have heard language she’d never heard before!!
What annoyed me the most was her lack of recognition of what happened and lack of apology (not unusual I know).
I must admit, it’s very cathartic telling someone exactly what you think of them, and unleashing the inner daemon
Bear had a pop at an intrusive lab at the weekend and I was very apologetic. No biting, just noise and a warning, but I don't like any confrontations.
AmyMay
Situation normal
Jack would have the odd pop if we weren’t careful and I would always apologise. Even to the point of me arguing with someone when the said ‘oh don’t worry, it’s ok’. I told her it most certainly wasn’t and she should advocate for her dog! God, my mouth…..Excellent! I can't believe she didn't apologise! Bear had a pop at an intrusive lab at the weekend and I was very apologetic. No biting, just noise and a warning, but I don't like any confrontations.
GSD Woman
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While we're complaining about bad dog owners I'm going to tell on myself as a bad dog class instructor. Yes, that's sarcasm. I've been teaching dog obedience classes off and on since 1991. Now my club doesn't want me to teach since I'm not "science based." I think they forget that there are 4 quadrants. I going to quit with that but thanks for letting me put it here as there aren't many social media areas where I can share this.