Is this common/acceptable YO behaviour?

OP This does not sound like the yard for you, but I'm not sure what type of yard would be ideal for you tbh. The only way you can be sure that you control what happens to your horse, is to either buy or rent your own place, with all the issues that that brings with it.
 
Apercrumbie said:
You're clearly unhappy at the yard so you're overreacting to this. If everything else was running smoothly you wouldn't think twice about it.
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This is the issue, I spent well over a year finding the 'right' yard for us. It's very tidy, secure, well maintained with a lovely relaxing atmosphere and although I haven't been there long at all, everyone seems really nice and I've made friends and even been invited to their BBQ'/parties. I do really love the yard I just find the YO very dictating in quite a relentless fashion.

As much as I'm trying to keep out of yard politics it's impossible to avoid direct questions from other liveries such as 'did you get a text this morning, we all have'. I'm actually trying to think of a livery that isn't annoyed with YO atm. Apparently when they go on holiday (by themselves) and yard is run by their OH, things are very peaceful.
 
I wish mine would go in more often - my automatic drinker is leaking! That said, staff members go in to pull weeds/ragwort on occasion and the YO's dad was in there fixing my gate the other day, complete with my youngster slobbering all over his shoulder. It didn't bother me at all - I just hope my horses don't bug them too much (youngster in particular loves humans a bit too much).
 
Goldenstar said:
I agree ,I am afraid I would not be a happy YOer if a livery thought they had the right to ban me from my own land .
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I'm not trying to ban YO from their land, I'm uncomfortable that they are entering my horses paddock likely on a daily occasion without my prior knowledge. All they had to do was mention that's their routine, then at least I would have known. Call me difficult if you wish but I prefer to know what is going on in close proximity to MY property in my absence. It's a 2 way street.
 
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FinkleyAlex said:
I wish mine would go in more often - my automatic drinker is leaking! That said, staff members go in to pull weeds/ragwort on occasion and the YO's dad was in there fixing my gate the other day, complete with my youngster slobbering all over his shoulder. It didn't bother me at all - I just hope my horses don't bug them too much (youngster in particular loves humans a bit too much).
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Hope the drinker is mended soon!
 
Illusion100 said:
I'm not trying to ban YO from their land, I'm uncomfortable that they are entering my horses paddock likely on a daily occasion without my prior knowledge. All they had to do was mention that's their routine, then at least I would have known. Call me difficult if you wish but I prefer to know what is going on in close proximity to MY property in my absence. It's a 2 way street.
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You won't like this but IMO you are being ridiculously precious .
This yard based on this and previous posts does not suit you .
 
Goldenstar said:
You won't like this but IMO you are being ridiculously precious .
This yard based on this and previous posts does not suit you .
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I'm not offended and after realising this is common and normal for YO's I realise I am being precious but that is my nature, I really don't have a problem with anyone pointing that out! If I had of known from the beginning that is what they do then I would have had no issue.

YO has pretty much everyones back up atm, so on that I don't stand alone. It is such a shame as everything else about the yard is ideal and the liveries are lovely, disgruntled, but lovely.

Again, when this YO goes on holiday things are very relaxed and liveries are much happier!
 
Illusion100 said:
I'm not offended and after realising this is common and normal for YO's I realise I am being precious but that is my nature, I really don't have a problem with anyone pointing that out! If I had of known from the beginning that is what they do then I would have had no issue.

YO has pretty much everyones back up atm, so on that I don't stand alone. It is such a shame as everything else about the yard is ideal and the liveries are lovely, disgruntled, but lovely.

Again, when this YO goes on holiday things are very relaxed and liveries are much happier!
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The problem with this viewpoint is that all the liveries are on the YOs yard, if they are happier when the YO isn't there, then they need to be on their own place, or somewhere where the YO is mainly abscent, although then I'm sure many of them would complain about lack of input from the YO!
 
YorksG said:
The problem with this viewpoint is that all the liveries are on the YOs yard, if they are happier when the YO isn't there, then they need to be on their own place, or somewhere where the YO is mainly abscent, although then I'm sure many of them would complain about lack of input from the YO!
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If there was a magical device that could teleport you to this yard for a few weeks you would get it! Liveries are happy when THAT YO isn't there (family run yard). That YO has been known to interrupt an emergency vet consultation regarding a liveries horse that had just fractured it's withers to mention some poos were in that horses field that needed clearing asap.
 
I don't get it... YO is obsessed with poo and that is annoying - that's one thing. But why on Earth is there an issue with them going close to your horse?
 
It is always preferable to know if/when someone is going into a field with your horse because ultimately if that horse injures someone you may be liable. I can see why you'd be concerned if this was happening on a daily basis and you didn't know about it.

However, you do know now, so I don't see what the ongoing issue is. Being poo obsessed is annoying, but the complaint appeared to be that the YO was going in the field, rather than she is pernickety about poo.
 
Is it her being in the field you don t like or is it the texts , because i would nt have a problem with her being in the field but the texts and fault finding would drive me round the bend.
 
Ok, here goes.

I have followed many of your posts, both about your horse and some of your life and you come across as very sensible, nice, down to earth and generally a good egg!

I can see how hard you have tried with your horse but truthfully I'm not sure he is making you happy at all. I don't really know either of you so this is only cyber opinion but he is clearly not an easy character and sounds very much like a horse who needs a professional type yard environment where he has a strict routine, is on a busy yard where all the horse do much the same thing. I have come to realise that the DIY yard is a very hard environment for horses and they require an exceptional temperament to cope with it. Many young horses simply don't and actually quite a few older ones too.

I think with you not being well and him being tricky you are over thinking some things and generally finding him very stressful which he is maybe picking up on. There are lots of horses out there who could give you a lot of fun, be easy to handle, ride, compete etc and are not bothered by yard changes, field changes and so forth.

Please don't be offended, this is not meant to get at you or say you are not capable at all, just from reading your posts and following your journey with this horse I do wonder if you are perhaps not suited that well.

Hope you get things sorted.
 
It's not your property OP that's the point! You aren't renting a particular space you are renting a stable and grazing - the latter at the choice of the YO.

Is it not normal for all yards to be happier more chilled when the YO is away? :p
 
OP, like other YO's who have posted, I regularly check my fencing on at least a weekly basis for unused paddocks and probably more often if liveries are in one. Having had muppet liveries in the past, I do check all fencing, also for rabbit joles, damage etc & also water tanks. They are mine & I want all to be fine for liveries.
I'd be pretty naffed off if a livery started telling me that I couldn't go into the field that they were currently using, so much so, that they would find themselves looking for somewhere else.

If you were renting the complete yard or land then thats different, just like renting a house. In that case the YO would ask permission to check. I know my neighbour has 3 monthly visits from her YO to check on upkeep, this is mainly down to them having nightmare tenants in the past tho.
 
It sounds like an OCD on poo picking yard owner is the issue, not the fact that they have been in your field.
 
What does it matter to you if the yard owner interrupted a vet consult to talk about poo ?
I thought the issue was that your horse is so sensitive it potentially can't cope with a stranger going into it's field .
The YOer texting can't damage your horse unless he's mastered using a phone .
The remedy is to change yards if you don't like it ,as you can't have the yard without the owner.
 
I would expect any responsible YO to check on the horses and fences regularly. After all, they have a duty of care to any horse or person on their yard and could well be prosecuted should there be a case of neglect, for example. Renting a house is completely different because humans don't tend to appreciate others coming into their private spaces and invading their privacy. Horses are different. A landlord may be responsible for the safety of their houses, gas appliances etc. But should one of their tenants neglect their children, he would not be held in anyway responsible, unlike a YO who could well be held responsible for the care bestowed on the horses on his land.
 
I wouldn't have a problem with YO going into the field or stable. As far as I'm concerned, the more checks on horse or fencing etc the better. BUT, multiple texts about the odd poo would drive me bonkers. Is it not possible for all the liveries to get together and tackle this problem head on? If not, I would be looking to leave. Obviously this YO's desire to keep the yard tidy is tipping over into an obsession.
 
YOers on here get a lot of stick about not looking after their yards .
And we get one that does branding them as obsessive seems a little unkind .
Having run a DIY yard for thankfully the very short time it took the YOer to realise what a complete utter pain it was I having a little giggle to my self about the mental stress a tidy freak YOer would suffer .
 
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I can understand if your horse is sensitive to strangers not liking the idea of someone going in there without your knowledge would be unsettling and the texts etc would be annoying! Could you speak to this YO or another member of the family that run the farm and just say your concerned that if your horse was having an off day you wouldn't want to chance anyone getting injured. Maybe YO could check the field while you are around? Or if they want to continue to check the horses field without you around at lest they've had proper warning from you. I'm sure they know to leave the horse in peace while they are in there but sounds like all of the liveries are getting annoyed with them. Best of luck xx
 
well one would assume the OP has her horse insured at least 3rd party anyway, and that the YO is a horsey person so I think suggesting injury while they wander round the field is a bit dramatic!

Responses to texts about the odd dropping would be along the lines of oh well, life is too short, thank goodness that's the worse you have to worry about etc etc :p.
 
ester said:
well one would assume the OP has her horse insured at least 3rd party anyway, and that the YO is a horsey person so I think suggesting injury while they wander round the field is a bit dramatic!
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I am suggesting worst case scenario with injury. Insurance is important but we all like to try and avoid incidents and I'm assuming that is why OP is concerned. If my horse was sensitive with strangers I know I'd be a bit worried about someone going in the field when I wasn't around but I am a worrier haha!
 
My YO checks all her grounds and all my horses on a daily basis. This is great for me 'cause it means I only have to visit once a day (they live out). If they're in for whatever reason, she will top up their water and hay if needed, even skip out if I'm lucky and will feed them in the morning for me :)

However, I would expect it to be different if I rented a whole yard for my sole use, I would expect that sort of situation to be treated a little more like renting a house.
 
How strange. I sometimes go into my liveries field to check poo, weeds and water. I sometimes move the water bucket as the grass dies underneath so makes sense to move it often. I also check over stable doors at night to make sure horses are done. I sometimes will move feed buckets out if a horse is squashing/breaking them. Just part of running a yard!
 
Do you think the YO is emptying out your horse's water? Would there be a good reason to do that? Perhaps an odd roundabout way of seeing whose horses are being checked regularly and whose aren't? TBH I'd be incredibly angry if my horse was left short of water, though you'd need the Hulk to tip our trough over.
 
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