IS THIS THE WORST HORSE OWNER CAN YOU TOP THIS ???

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I used to look forward to coming on here but now i feel sick and will avoid Horse and Hound Forum . xxx many thanks

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don't do that! everyone's being a bit grouchy. bah, so what... tomorrow is a new day. i'm sure no one wanted to upset you. xx

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Agreed, a shame to let others get to you, I know its hard, but do not take it personally, even though it comes across as personal, its all just ridiculous, but a shame if you go
 
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There is a lady who keeps her horses at my yard and she hasn't been up since November! The horses are getting all of their basic care but no extra attention.
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People shouldn't have horses if they aren't prepared to spend time with them!
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Why do people have horses and do nothing with them? They arent cheap as all our pockets and bank balances show. And I dont get the status symbol thing how can being skint and being knee deep in s*&t and mud be a status symbol look? RANT over
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Why is it your place to judge whether people do anything with their horses? If the horse is well cared for then it's none of anyone else's business
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Someone at the yard I'm on only comes up maybe once a week, not that often if the weather is bad. She has a v high powered job, pays a fortune for horse to be on full livery and he is exercised 3 times a week for her. She adores him and wouldn't part with him, but it suits her to come up occasionally. I don't go up every day either, I just pay yard to do him. Last winter he was part livery so I only went up 5x per week, just to ride. No shame in it. Those of you who think your horse cares if you turn up every day should think again... as long as it is fed, watered and warm, it won't care if it sees you from one week to the next.
 
I think the OP (Original Poster/ Original Post) said a lady bought a horse, hasn't been up to see it very much and is paying for everything for the horse but not for the care of the horse.

Then the thread as a whole lost me.

OP, if you are unhappy with the situation, which I assume you are, I and my sister would see yard owner and tell them you no longer wish to care for a horse which isn't yours and whom you are not getting paid to care for. In fairness to the yard owner, who I don't think is really in the wrong, I would give them, and the owner, notice of at least a week, preferably two or a month of your intentions so that other arrangements can be made.
 
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I also feel I have top quality people skills

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PMSL.

Excuse me if I see fit to disagree - you haven't exactly demonstrated them on this thread have you?
There's the hysterical fully capitalised title of the thread itself. (For information, no the 'lady' isn't the worst owner of a horse I have ever come across & if you really have worked in horse welfare she won't be the worst you've ever come across by a long way).
Then we have the almost unintelligible opening post which you've since edited to include some punctuation. Someone asks you why you can't use punctuation followed by a question mark - hence it's a question not a statement & you fly off the handle.
You were far ruder to others than they were to you, but at least since the observation re your lack of punctuation was made you seem to have managed to drege some up from somewhere so the required end result was achieved
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Once you'd gone back & added some punctuation the post became far clearer, as have your subsequent posts. I think you are insecure about what you refer to as your lack of English skills & because of that when they were commented on it touched a nerve & you reacted in an overly defensive manner.
As has already been observed you really do need to get over yourself. There's no need to leave, but don't expect everyone to march to the beat of your drum just because you think you're gods gift to the equine world.
 
why does SHE need to get over herself? Imagine if all you lot had said this to her face instead of over a forum; it'd be called bullying. So what she doesn't use correct punctuation - i'm sure it's not on purpose just to annoy the forum witches..
 
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why does SHE need to get over herself? Imagine if all you lot had said this to her face instead of over a forum; it'd be called bullying. So what she doesn't use correct punctuation - i'm sure it's not on purpose just to annoy the forum witches..

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I never type anything on a forum I wouldn't say in RL, be well assured of that for a start.
As for the rather ludicrous bullying suggestion you're the one generalising & assigning labels
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When "she" went back & edited her post to include punctuation & also utilised her perfectly adequate written english skills thereafter the posts became alot easier to read. Flying off the handle at what was a perfectly reasonable question just wasn't necessary.

** WWarfarewitch - Mega apologies for referring to yourself in the third person. I felt I had to phrase the reply in the vein in which the comment I was responding to was written.
 
Can you cantact a legal team and present her with a bill for all you've done for the horse, then say if she wants to pay you to carry on looking after him you will, if she doesn't then report her for neglect?? and ignore all the miserable buggers picking on you, i read it and understood ok.
 
so she edited it to improve her punctuation? Isn't that a good thing? If you'd all spoken to me the way you've spoken to her the last thing i'd do would be to actually follow what you were saying... poor girl, she's obviously tried her best. Get over it.
 
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so she edited it to improve her punctuation? Isn't that a good thing? If you'd all spoken to me the way you've spoken to her the last thing i'd do would be to actually follow what you were saying... poor girl, she's obviously tried her best. Get over it.

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It;s ok for you to tell me to "get over it then"?
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I have no problem with you telling me that by the way, but sauce for the goose & all that.........

Read the above again you will see that I've said how much easier the posts were to understand one the OP had edited them. The OPs original post was literally just a string of words - no punctuation no capitals. As it happens there was no dire emergency contained in the request for opinions. However if there had have been people would have struggled to digest what was written & could easily have misunderstood & perhaps given wrong or even dangerous advice.
 
I saw the orginial post, and i found it very difficult to understand. I didn't, however, feel the need to write a bitchy remark or tease the poster about this. I just pressed backspace. Maybe you should try that next time.
 
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I saw the orginial post, and i found it very difficult to understand. I didn't, however, feel the need to write a bitchy remark or tease the poster about this. I just pressed backspace. Maybe you should try that next time.

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(sighs.........)

If you read the first few responses people were puzzled as to the OPs concern, as it appeared from what was written that the owner of the horse was paying for the services being rendered (see what I mean about misunderstandings?)
The OP was asked the question "Why can't you use punctuation"? & responded with a very rude tirade which under the circumstances just wasn't necessary.
 
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Zebedee - you're a troll

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Really?
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Would you care to give a detailed definition of an internet troll & explain exactly how my (fairly lengthy) posting history fits that definition?
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It makes me laugh when people like you on forums start 'sighing' and using smileys. Cute. And why be proud of having nearly 5000 posts on a forum? My goodness, no wonder you're such an expert at punctiation by now..! Goodnight.
 
Hmm read post, understand, couldnt care less about the punctuation argument or the is this the worst owner argument! Simple fact is you need to speak to the horses owner, she is new to the horse world, has told you never owned a horse before and obviously doesnt have a clue how it all works! Since you have been looking after the horse for her how is she going to know any different??? Ring/go see the lady, sit her down and explain what a diy yard is, what other options there are (full/part livery), explain costs of each for her. Also if your sister would still like to care for the horse then explain this to her and ask for a sharer arrangement = all parties are happy, owner doesnt feel like a complete **** for doing something she never realised was wrong! Use those people skills! :-)
 
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It makes me laugh when people like you on forums start 'sighing' and using smileys.

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Well of course it's so hard to convey tone via the written word isn't it? I do like to employ the tools available to their full extent.

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People like you

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What does that mean?
You do like your generalising don't you (insert cute smiley of your choice here !!)

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And why be proud of having nearly 5000 posts on a forum? My goodness, no wonder you're such an expert at punctuation by now..!

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Good lord 5000 is nothing on here & I'm afraid my punctuation skills (such as they are) were learned along time ago at school! I was refering to the actual length of time I've been a member. Internet trolls tend to have a membership measured in days (well hours sometimes) rather than years.....So if Rotchana cares to check she will I think find more than enough evidence to see that the troll definition just doesn't apply. I wouldn't dream of labeling someone without being sure of my facts first, which I'm sure you'll agree is a wise course of action?

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Goodnight

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Goodnight !! Hope you sleep well. I'll be awake for a few hours yet I fear.
Thanks for your company - I enjoyed our exchange immensley
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QR: for some reason I have been thinking about the original post but as usual come in very late to the discussion!

I think that the OP is a young person whose older sister has taken care of a pony on the yard and the OP is feeling indignant about the amount of work her sister is putting in - perhaps it came up over dinner this evening so is in the forefront of her mind and I commend her for supporting her sister.

Maybe the sister is more than happy to take on this pony and the benefits she gains but the OP is feeling emotional and defensive on her behalf and has blurted it all out on here without much thought.

Having a young teenage daughter myself, I know that quite often they can type/speak without thinking first and it all comes out in a garble! LOL, my daughter is in all the tops sets at school including English but her typing on FB etc leaves me aghast sometimes!!
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I rather feel that once again we seem to have this number of members who are so hung up about correct presentation of posts that the original point gets lost in the arguments over full stops.

Perhaps a little more compassion and understanding is required when these posts crop up before the more older, correct members leap in and criticise.

I read the post and understood it perfectly and I just feel that it is a shame that a young girl is so discouraged from posting again whereas had she been offered a bit more understanding on how HHO works she would benefit from such a wealth of knowledge in years to come and grow and improve on her posts in future to please the English critics.

Sorry, I just think that the youngsters get very short thrift on here sometimes
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if Zebedee is a troll, she's a very persistent one! Most trolls don't hang around for four years, making helpful and constructive comments, waiting for the moment to leap on an unsuspecting newcomer (billygoat?) and attack them.

Slinging accusations like "bullying" around is unhelpful at best. Its not bullying to say something unkind to someone. Going by the people skills of a lot of horsy people i have met in the last 30+ years, they are just as likely to say thoughtless or hurtful things to your face, as on an internet forum!
 
So who makes the decisions for the horse? Who decides when it needs shoeing, worming, etc etc? No answers have come to this type of question, nor the 'who gets paid' one.

Most of us could say we 'rescued' a horse. We mostly care for them too. No one expects a pat on the back. We do it because we want to, as I guess the person looking after the horse at the start of the thread is doing. But I do feel a bit for the horses' owner, who doesn't seem to realise she's not paying for the horses care, and is being slated.
Lots of owners barely see their horses, many are much better off because of that. At least the money arrives with no problems, what a reliable and consistant woman. How can that be 'the worst horse owner' compared to those who ill treat and starve their animals?
Re the posts about punctuation, I have to say I agree with them. Writing with gaps and capitals isn't nuclear science and should come automatically by the time we are old enough to use this forum. Most of us use too many bits and bobs, me included, all those commas, get in the way.
Spelling? Well, we all mis spell words, never mind.

Smile and wave boys!
 
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Imagine if all you lot had said this to her face instead of over a forum; it'd be called bullying.

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Perhaps Mother_Hen could have phrased things more tactfully, but the basic suggestion was pretty valid.
 
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OK, just to make it a little easier for anyone who might actually want to answer the post and not complain about punctuation.

FWIW I honestly couldn't care less about your punctuation, so don't mean to offend you by changing the post for you but I agree it was quite hard to read.
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Thought i would write this as i cant get my head round it .

The story starts of a lady who wants to ride , so she comes up and has a little ride, very laid back larger lady, but thats ok not a problem, friend has a cob and offers part loan. Lady says yes sound good ,horse gets more attention, owner loosing interest, ends up offering lady to buy after a few weeks. I think she will never go for that, lady brings mum up , mum is even more brain dead than daughter. I think they will never commmit and to my astonishment mother buys horse for lady.
Lady comes up gets on has a walk , craps herself in trot, stumps up money for horse leaves all mucking out and care to me. She then has smash in car. When i asked her a question about her horse she says "I dont know havent been up all week." I move on and horse gets left to my sister who loves him and cares for him.
Lady stumps up more money as needed and turns up about every three months has a look and goes, horse has everyday care and every need is attended to and is just left to my sister who says she sees him as hers now.
Lady has another baby doesnt turn up for about 6 months money still going into account for horse, anything he needs or has to have paid for, any riding is nothing more than a reckless trot with lady still crapping her self with no progression at all , when asked if she would ever sell she says NEVER Ive always wanted a horse and my mum said" I thought you would get fed up "and she said NOPE I've proved them all wrong. She has only been to new yard twice in a year.
Horse has great home , exercise, food care and love by my sister. No improvement in riding with lady, she still craps herself in trot.
I do believe that when this money was spent Lady assumed she had bought horse with full time groom. I just hope said Lady doesn't ever decide to go it alone or horse will end up starving to death. All those years of early mornings and bad weather all us horsey girls have endured, not to mention the emotional and mental attatchments of DOING A GOOD JOB to ensure our mounts are well cared for and provided for mentaly and physically.
I've sweated blood and tears for horses all my life , helped starving ones , cared for ill treated ones as well as healthy ones and even took a beating with a crop from a yard owner as a kid and didnt tell my parents as the would have stopped me from working for nothing. ALL BECAUSE OF THE LOVE I HAVE FOR THE MAJESTIC, MOST BEAUTIFUL CREATURE - THE HORSE. This makes me laugh , not in a funny way but in an unbelievable way. Just thought i would post this for others to digest.xxxxx
 
Thanks RR - much easier reading - and rather interesting.

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Just thought i would post this for others to digest.xxxxx

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OP - interesting thread.

Tell your sister to present a bill for services to the owner. When payment is refused sue. Court will award horse in lieu of payment.

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Thanks RR - much easier reading - and rather interesting.


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What, my punctuation skills? LOL
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I know, they're not great but atleast it's still easier to read.
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Thankyou so much blazzing saddles you have hit the nail on the head. I do apologize to you all for my long confusing post and that it was difficult to read and understand. I am also very upset and feel very bullied by certain people after writing this and am now looking to go to other forums. I thank all of you who had the decency to see past my lack of English skills and thank you for your answers , I used to look forward to coming on here but now i feel sick and will avoid Horse and Hound Forum . xxx many thanks

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Hope you don't leave the forum. There are lots and lots of people on here, and there is a wealth of knowledge. Just keep giving it a go, and see how things pan-out for you.
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Tell your sister to present a bill for services to the owner. When payment is refused sue. Court will award horse in lieu of payment.

Good luck.

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Right, I really couldn't be bothered to jump into this thread as I can't work out who's yard it is, who's doing what, who should be taking matters up with the owner or anything else BUT this suggestion will not get you anywhere. As far as I can make out, OP and/or sister have been looking after horse off their own back. Unless there was a contract set up with the owner of the horse either at the outset or at any time since she does not owe you anything, you have provided services without being asked. If there is a contract stating costs to be paid for time in looking after horse (as it seems that livery fees are being paid) then it can be enforced, but from the "facts" as presented this does not seem to be the case. Whoever is actually in charge of this yard needs to take the issue up with the owner, who seems to pay what is asked of her, and explain that they have not been straight with her about the real costs and/or the real responsibilities the owner has towards her horse.

If we are going to talk about bullying, I really don't like talking about people behind their backs, which is what this is. How would you feel if you were the lady in question, who again, seems to pay what is asked of her and it would seem does not understand that there are other costs or time commitments involved, and found out that the other owners on the yard consider her to be the world's worst owner and have seen fit to insult her on the internet?
 
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Unless there was a contract set up with the owner of the horse either at the outset or at any time since she does not owe you anything

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A friend of mine has a very nice horse sitting in her stable which would indicate otherwise
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