Archangel
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thats odd , 3 of us affected by Dark Ivy.
Make that 4 affected.
thats odd , 3 of us affected by Dark Ivy.
Maybe it’s time you all moved on !Make that 4 affected.
SpeechlessMaybe it’s time you all moved on !
Maybe it’s time you all moved on !
It was years ago, a lot of bad things have happened since.......actually if you are still traumatised years later why even comment let alone watch the national ?Speechless
Maybe it’s time you all moved on !
i remember the death of Dark Ivy too, he probably sticks in everyone's memory because of his looks and colour and because he received so much media. Attention prior to the race.
The loss of Roll a Joint sticks in my mind as he was such a gutsy little horse and was one of my favourites of the time.
I don't feel traumatised by it though.
When I was about 7 I remember a riding school horse that had been hit by a bus being led back to the yard where I kept my pony. It was covered in blood and later died in the stable. That sticks. In my mind though while it was upsetting I wouldn't go so far as to say I felt traumatised.
Why do you all keep going on about him then ? I’ve watched and been involved in racing for many years and can remember a lot of sad occasions of horse deaths but I don’t watch now remembering them, there wouldn’t be any point or enjoyment in the present if I did. In the same way, I’ve seen horses die eventing, showjumping, hunting and at home, either you accept it happens or choose not to be involved in the horse world. Bad things happen but for me I’d rather remember the star horses and the great races rather than constantly dwell on the down side.the only person who said traumatised was bonny, the rest of us said we were affected by dark ivy the same as you were affected by roll a joint...slightly different!!!!
Why do you all keep going on about him then ?
Really, I’m not human because I can watch the grand national without dwelling on horses lost in it !Not all are going on about him, just a few.
And as far as I remember what makes us human is our compassion. Something you seem to be wholey lacking.
Really, I’m not human because I can watch the grand national without dwelling on horses lost in it !
You have no idea, I am as sentimental as the next person about animals, I’ve sat and cried at the deaths of my own horses and the deaths of strangers horses but I also love racing and reading Facebook etc every year at this time it’s worrying how many people want it banned. This was supposed to be a thread about one for Arthur’s big day, ironic that the stable lost a horse too. There are highs and there are awful lows in all aspects of horse ownership and I for one wish we could celebrate sometimes without dwelling on the lows. That doesn’t make me lack compassionYou’re one of the rare members of our race lacking in compassion. Thankfully they’re far and few between.
the only person who said traumatised was bonny, the rest of us said we were affected by dark ivy the same as you were affected by roll a joint...slightly different!!!!
You guys HAVE to read this Twitter thread! It is just utterly awesome! I know it's PETA but it really is well worth it !!!
I'm the same.You have no idea, I am as sentimental as the next person about animals, I’ve sat and cried at the deaths of my own horses and the deaths of strangers horses but I also love racing and reading Facebook etc every year at this time it’s worrying how many people want it banned. This was supposed to be a thread about one for Arthur’s big day, ironic that the stable lost a horse too. There are highs and there are awful lows in all aspects of horse ownership and I for one wish we could celebrate sometimes without dwelling on the lows. That doesn’t make me lack compassion
For anyone reading this thread who isn’t as old as some of us, Dark Ivy died in the 1987 grand national so 32 years ago and since then the race has changed out of all recognition. I don’t think saying it’s time to move on justified the comments about me from two posters but each to her own.
sometimes things happens and change the way you view a situation, in this case the grand national, for me i no longer watch because there are to many horses, too many jumps, too fast, too many horses have died and with age it has coloured my perspective of what i thought was a national event and spectacle, to something i feel is distasteful in the extreme, simply put i consider it to be too much to ask of a horseFor anyone reading this thread who isn’t as old as some of us, Dark Ivy died in the 1987 grand national so 32 years ago and since then the race has changed out of all recognition. I don’t think saying it’s time to move on justified the comments about me from two posters but each to her own.
so truethis forum used to be friendly and tolerant, we all think differently and there is no wrong or right...these days it seems some people have forgotten this......
So you came onto a thread about One For Arthur’s attempt to win the National again to say that you find it distasteful in the extreme, why not just ignore the thread if that’s how you feel ?sometimes things happens and change the way you view a situation, in this case the grand national, for me i no longer watch because there are to many horses, too many jumps, too fast, too many horses have died and with age it has coloured my perspective of what i thought was a national event and spectacle, to something i feel is distasteful in the extreme, simply put i consider it to be too much to ask of a horse
i think seeing a bad end to a decent horse is the thing that turns the tables for a lot of people, they make a choice about what they think is acceptable to them, or not as in this case
So you came onto a thread about One For Arthur’s attempt to win the National again to say that you find it distasteful in the extreme, why not just ignore the thread if that’s how you feel ?
sometimes things happens and change the way you view a situation, in this case the grand national, for me i no longer watch because there are to many horses, too many jumps, too fast, too many horses have died and with age it has coloured my perspective of what i thought was a national event and spectacle, to something i feel is distasteful in the extreme, simply put i consider it to be too much to ask of a horse
i think seeing a bad end to a decent horse is the thing that turns the tables for a lot of people, they make a choice about what they think is acceptable to them, or not as in this case
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