Jeremy Clarkson

See this is where it all goes wrong. What the media and the Government are saying about our pensions is lies and rubbish! People really need to get their facts right!!!!!

For example Jen_Cots - We in the public sector do NOT pay 3% of our salary into pensions. We ALREADY pay 6% - the government is planning to INCREASE that by 3.5 % making our monthly contribution nearly 10%. That raises my monthly contribution to my pension from £341 per month as it currently is, to around £420 a month.

The money that I cirrently pay into the pensions fund goes directly to the people who are currently being paid a teacher's pension. The TAX PAYER does not pay it! I do!!! THe idea is when I retire the teachers who are paying into THEIR pension will actually be paying ME...

I don't regard £420 a month as a 'cheap' pension!!!!! Crikey I didn;t realise it was that much til I looked at it....

How many of you Private sector workers pay over £400 a month into your pension???
 
martlin said:
Actually, that's not what he said... he said that stopping a train AFTER it hit somebody is a bit pointless (read BEFORE would be better ;)). And (I reckon I will get jumped on for this :eek:), I have to admit, there is certain logic in his thinking.
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A brave thing to say, but I agree with you. there is logic behind it. And that doesnt make us idiots MrsD123
 
martlin said:
Actually, that's not what he said... he said that stopping a train AFTER it hit somebody is a bit pointless (read BEFORE would be better ;)). And (I reckon I will get jumped on for this :eek:), I have to admit, there is certain logic in his thinking.
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It was not the idea of insensitivity to suicide which amused me but the faultless logic.

My French vet came to examine one of my Cleveland Bays and asked if she was eating well I replied "She is a Cleveland Bay they only stop eating when they are dead". Logic!!
 
noblesteed said:
See this is where it all goes wrong. What the media and the Government are saying about our pensions is lies and rubbish! People really need to get their facts right!!!!!

For example Jen_Cots - We in the public sector do NOT pay 3% of our salary into pensions. We ALREADY pay 6% - the government is planning to INCREASE that by 3.5 % making our monthly contribution nearly 10%. That raises my monthly contribution to my pension from £341 per month as it currently is, to around £420 a month.

The money that I cirrently pay into the pensions fund goes directly to the people who are currently being paid a teacher's pension. The TAX PAYER does not pay it! I do!!! THe idea is when I retire the teachers who are paying into THEIR pension will actually be paying ME...

I don't regard £420 a month as a 'cheap' pension!!!!! Crikey I didn;t realise it was that much til I looked at it....

How many of you Private sector workers pay over £400 a month into your pension???
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I'll be honest though, all public sector pay comes from the government, therefore all comes from taxes of some variety. So it is the private sector taxpayers that pay for your pension :confused:

TBH I don't get why public sector workers even pay tax, whats the point of taxing people who are paid with taxes? May as well get paid less, and not pay the taxes imho. That would also cut down on LOTS of paperwork, and likely cut costs quite a bit :)

I don't pay much into my pension, but private sector pay is low atm I can't afford to pay in anymore ;)
 
noblesteed said:
See this is where it all goes wrong. What the media and the Government are saying about our pensions is lies and rubbish! People really need to get their facts right!!!!!

For example Jen_Cots - We in the public sector do NOT pay 3% of our salary into pensions. We ALREADY pay 6% - the government is planning to INCREASE that by 3.5 % making our monthly contribution nearly 10%. That raises my monthly contribution to my pension from £341 per month as it currently is, to around £420 a month.

The money that I cirrently pay into the pensions fund goes directly to the people who are currently being paid a teacher's pension. The TAX PAYER does not pay it! I do!!! THe idea is when I retire the teachers who are paying into THEIR pension will actually be paying ME...

I don't regard £420 a month as a 'cheap' pension!!!!! Crikey I didn;t realise it was that much til I looked at it....

How many of you Private sector workers pay over £400 a month into your pension???
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Does that mean that you earn over £4,200 per month???????????
Crikey! our household NET income is £1,250 per month, both me and DH would LOVE to be paying £400 and odd into a pension,as it is we have only the state pension to look forward too at 67 years of age.
 
Horsesforever1 said:
Does that mean that you earn over £4,200 per month???????????
Crikey! our household NET income is £1,250 per month, both me and DH would LOVE to be paying £400 and odd into a pension,as it is we have only the state pension to look forward too at 67 years of age.
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I didn't even notice that :eek:
 
noblesteed said:
How many of you Private sector workers pay over £400 a month into your pension???
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You're joking! I had to stop paying into mine 4 years ago as a freelance. So you want MY tax to safeguard YOUR pension when I can't afford one of my own? And you're on £4,200 a month?

I had my pension statement this morning. It has lost 7.9% in value in 6 months. But there's no point in me bleating about it - it's the way it is. We had massive growth, we are now in recession and we have to all put up and shut up.

And back on topic - it seems to me that we manage to get offended at the drop of a hat these days. I'd rather JC's comments, taken with a large pinch of salt than the faux outrage of the politically correct.
 
Horsesforever1 said:
Does that mean that you earn over £4,200 per month???????????
Crikey! our household NET income is £1,250 per month, both me and DH would LOVE to be paying £400 and odd into a pension,as it is we have only the state pension to look forward too at 67 years of age.
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I did the same calculation as well- if you are earning over £4k a month I really don't think you should be too concerned about your pension going up by a few percent!
 
Back to original post - I saw the Jezza on the One Show - thought it was hilarious - the comment on the trains, although may have been tasteless to some, is exactly the sort of comment you hear daily when commuting oin London - the announcment comes over and you hear the train/platform collectively say 'Why do they have to do it in rush hour?' it is more a reflection on the attitude of commuters and having to live our lives clock watching:o

Anyone else see the irony in Unions calling for JC to be scaked without going therough a long drawn out disciplinary procedure that they would be demanding for one of their own memebers?:confused::D:D:D

It should also be remembered that most of these Union leaders are picking up salaries of £100k+ with nice big pensions to match.......;):D:D

I expect there will be another petition for JC to be Prime Minister........:D
 
Brilliant man.
I think people need to realise that after years and years of being given so much by the government, somewhere cuts are going to have to be made. We cannot continue to live in the way we previously were. There is no more money to do so. Everyone needs to just knuckle down and shut up. We will come out of recession, but it takes time.
The conservative government came into power in a shocking time, and are doing what is needed to get us out of this situation. They may lose popularity over it, but at least they are doing something about it! Labour just let the economy boom- do politicians ever read history books? boom and bust?
*rant over*
Hed get my vote! :D
 
martlin said:
Actually, that's not what he said... he said that stopping a train AFTER it hit somebody is a bit pointless (read BEFORE would be better ;)). And (I reckon I will get jumped on for this :eek:), I have to admit, there is certain logic in his thinking.
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He shows faulty logic suggesting that it's pointless stopping a train after it's hit someone. OK, it's pointless from the point of view of the suicide, but not for all those on the train.
Someone has to remove the body parts and make sure the train isn't damaged by the collision. And the driver will probably be in a state of shock, being an ordinary human being with (hopefully) some compassion.
 
He's a hoot, the world is just too getting full of PC crap! I enjoy his out bursts and taking them seriously is as stupid as getting wound up about Tom and Jerry .
however there are a lot of stupid people out their who take themselves way to seriously .
Live long and shock Jeremy , might be time to ditch the ridiculously PC BBC.
 
Clarkson is a ****** (rhymes with Banker), and a despicable individual.

Who does he think he is?

Anyone who views those comments as a joke, in this day and age, is a feckwit.

Maybe it's an English thing, cos I just don't get him at all.
 
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AengusOg said:
Clarkson is a ****** (rhymes with Banker), and a despicable individual.

Who does he think he is?

Anyone who views those comments as a joke, in this day and age, is a feckwit.

Maybe it's an English thing, cos I just don't get him at all.
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I am not suprised at all that you dont get him at all. He is able to string a sentence together.
 
AengusOg said:
Clarkson is a ****** (rhymes with Banker), and a despicable individual.

Who does he think he is?

Anyone who views those comments as a joke, in this day and age, is a feckwit.

Maybe it's an English thing, cos I just don't get him at all.
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Then I'm a feckwit.

The whole point about Jeremy is that he is incredulous that anyone takes what he says seriously, as they seem to do, just because he's on the telly.

And if they DO take him seriously? Well, more fool them. That's the joke.
 
noblesteed said:
See this is where it all goes wrong. What the media and the Government are saying about our pensions is lies and rubbish! People really need to get their facts right!!!!!

For example Jen_Cots - We in the public sector do NOT pay 3% of our salary into pensions. We ALREADY pay 6% - the government is planning to INCREASE that by 3.5 % making our monthly contribution nearly 10%. That raises my monthly contribution to my pension from £341 per month as it currently is, to around £420 a month.

The money that I cirrently pay into the pensions fund goes directly to the people who are currently being paid a teacher's pension. The TAX PAYER does not pay it! I do!!! THe idea is when I retire the teachers who are paying into THEIR pension will actually be paying ME...

I don't regard £420 a month as a 'cheap' pension!!!!! Crikey I didn;t realise it was that much til I looked at it....

How many of you Private sector workers pay over £400 a month into your pension???
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I think what the unions are saying is stuff everyone else we want our bit like they always do and to hell with the fall out,, there will be realistic pensions and wages or far fewer public sector workers if this self indugent crap continues, I hope the goverment stand up to these tinpot dictators the public sector makes no money they provide a service at a cost that cost is too high relitive to the income of the country..just simple economics ...
 
Mrs B said:
You're joking! I had to stop paying into mine 4 years ago as a freelance. So you want MY tax to safeguard YOUR pension when I can't afford one of my own? And you're on £4,200 a month?

And back on topic - it seems to me that we manage to get offended at the drop of a hat these days. I'd rather JC's comments, taken with a large pinch of salt than the faux outrage of the politically correct.
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^^^This!!
 
Alec Swan said:
Very funny, and he isn't alone in his thoughts!! Well said Clarkson, you're working for the greater good, it's only a shame that those who would strike, don't.

I'd go further; sack those who strike, and fill their places with the all so often equally qualified, unemployed. Let's see how the wannabe strikers manage on the dole! ;)

Alec.

ps. As a foot note, I'm wearing my Pedantic hat!! :D
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I totally agree!! :D
 
Actually, my eight year old son was watching the programme, and was genuinely worried that people could be taken out and shot in front of their families. Some joke.
 
AengusOg said:
Clarkson is a ****** (rhymes with Banker), and a despicable individual.

Who does he think he is?

Anyone who views those comments as a joke, in this day and age, is a feckwit.

Maybe it's an English thing, cos I just don't get him at all.
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I doubt I would have a sense of humor either if I lived somewhere it rains and is cold most of the year :D
 
AengusOg said:
Actually, my eight year old son was watching the programme, and was genuinely worried that people could be taken out and shot in front of their families. Some joke.
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if that's the hardest thing you have to explain to him you will be lucky it was just a huge example of the if you do that I'll wring your neck type non PC joke that's lots of adults use all the time.
You should just have either removed the little mite from the room the moment you saw clarkson on the TV or used your own censor, the off switch.
 
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