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Poor Jonty :(

I did think it must have been a bad fall for HSI to post an update. He’s not having much luck!
Hope he’s ok and it’s just a precaution.
 

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From the live feed it looked like he was knocked out. Hope he is ok. The update doesn't really give any information though so we will just have to wait and cross our fingers
 

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It wasnt a particulary bad fall, it was the way he fell. Most of the impact was on his head.
The horse was absolutely fine. It was just really unlucky as you could fall like that a thousand times and be unhurt.
 

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Tatts have said he’s been moved to a different hospital.
According to local eventers here it seems that he’s in a coma. Whether that’s induced or as a result of injury it hasn’t been said. Fingers crossed for a good recovery :(
 

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Tatts have said he’s been moved to a different hospital.
According to local eventers here it seems that he’s in a coma. Whether that’s induced or as a result of injury it hasn’t been said. Fingers crossed for a good recovery :(

oh no! fingers crossed for Jonty
 

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Tatts have said he’s been moved to a different hospital.
According to local eventers here it seems that he’s in a coma. Whether that’s induced or as a result of injury it hasn’t been said. Fingers crossed for a good recovery :(

Oh no, poor Jonty. Everything crossed for him.
 

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He's been transfered to Beaumont who are the "Major trauma" specialist unit which isn't exactly uplifting as an update
 

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H&H reporting that he is in neuro intensive care.
Fingers crossed for a quick & uncomplicated recovery. It sounds like he is in the best possible hands.
 

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It is standard treatment with many head injuries to induce coma deliberately and instigate treatment as a precaution rather than a necessity. Likewise transfer to a neuro unit is not unusual. William Fox-Pitt was in an induced coma for 7-10 days if I remember correctly and he recovered and returned to top flight competition.
 

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It is standard treatment with many head injuries to induce coma deliberately and instigate treatment as a precaution rather than a necessity. Likewise transfer to a neuro unit is not unusual. William Fox-Pitt was in an induced coma for 7-10 days if I remember correctly and he recovered and returned to top flight competition.

Absolutely. My brother suffered quite a serious head injury & skull fracture last year, and was in a neuro ward for 2 weeks.
He has recovered without many long-term issues, although it took a bit of time. As you say, better to be safe than sorry.
 

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Gosh, really hope he's ok and wishing him a speedy recovery.

On the point about not having much luck, he's had two falls this year (not good by any means), but his other two runs out they won. Hopefully not something he'd want to continue (i.e. either fall off or win) but still, some great results when it does go his way.
 

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Sounds as tho it could be a long way back if he fell face first. :( Terrible shame and a timely reminder it could happen to any of us!
 

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Sounds as tho it could be a long way back if he fell face first. :( Terrible shame and a timely reminder it could happen to any of us!

Indeed! And therefore but for the grace of god go all of us.

WFP was two before Jonty and his horse made exactly the same mistake as Art: got his off fore around the flag of the brush skinny. WFP came off but fortunately for him had a softer landing and walked away. Two virtually identical falls; two very different outcomes. Sobering. :(
 

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Everything crossed for a positive outcome for Jonty. When he fell I was gutted he lost his chance to get on the podium! Now I just hope and pray he recovers. Puts things in perspective.:(:(:(:(
 

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WFP was two before Jonty and his horse made exactly the same mistake as Art: got his off fore around the flag of the brush skinny. (

So were these falls caused by the fence design? I haven't seen the fence- was there something about it that resulted in two experienced horses catching their off fore on the flag?
 

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Fingers crossed for Jonty. I work with people who have brain injuries and those that needed neurosurgery/ more serious cases have all gone to Beaumont hospital's neuro ICU. Luckily Tattersalls is quite near it. He will at least get the best possible care.

When the acute injury is treated successfully, the rehab services available nowadays mean people can recover enormously from very serious injuries. It takes time and different therapies at different stages of the recovery process. The treatments are constantly improving. It's really encouraging to see the improvements people make. So fingers crossed for the best possible recovery for Jonty.
 
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So were these falls caused by the fence design? I haven't seen the fence- was there something about it that resulted in two experienced horses catching their off fore on the flag?

It was an offset brush skinny in water after a jump into the water. Nothing wrong with the design of the fences per se; just add in over-jumping into water/the drag of the water/pecking and then losing your optimal line to a skinny that an honest/experienced horse will do his utmost to jump rather than duck out and you get a jump where the horse gets tangled with the flag. There was very little if any margin for error.
Having said that many jumped it well and smoothly. May have a look at the stats for that fence later on if I get a mo.
 

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It was an offset brush skinny in water after a jump into the water. Nothing wrong with the design of the fences per se; just add in over-jumping into water/the drag of the water/pecking and then losing your optimal line to a skinny that an honest/experienced horse will do his utmost to jump rather than duck out and you get a jump where the horse gets tangled with the flag. There was very little if any margin for error.
Having said that many jumped it well and smoothly. May have a look at the stats for that fence later on if I get a mo.

Yes exactly, it was a decent 3* combination with a turn in the water to the skinny after a big hanging log/drop in, which was after another turn from a pallisade, so it asked plenty of questions but lots of horses jumped it well.
 

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Eight were eliminated on the XC; of these five eliminations involved incidents at fence 19b (the skinny brush in the water): unseated rider, horse falls and refusals.

There were another five who completed the XC with jumping faults and of these two were at fence 19b (missed flag).

Nineteen jumped round the entire course clear (albeit with time faults).

So just under 22% of the XC starters had some sort of issue with this fence.
 
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Everything crossed for a positive outcome for Jonty. When he fell I was gutted he lost his chance to get on the podium! Now I just hope and pray he recovers. Puts things in perspective.:(:(:(:(

I'm with you AE. He got pitched forward after the jump into the water and then didn't get his line right to 19b. I thought 'oh what a shame ' when he went out the side door. However he landed on the front of his head and then lay all strewn out like he was out cold. They even showed a replay as it didn't look that dramatic a fall. I've been thinking of him ever since it happened and really hoping for a positive outcome.
 

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Emily Gilruth had a horrible fall at Badminton last year and landed face first. She also had a serious head injury but has recovered well and is back riding and competing. Which gives hope.
I have Jonty in my thoughts a lot - and all those around him, from his family to his team on the yard.
 

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I was there and thought this was a very tough and punishing fence, as were the water fence questions for the one star class. One of the problems was that if a horse left a leg, the fall happened onto the very hard ground at the edge of the water. I love watching eventing but sometimes fences make me feel as if we are just asking too much of horses (and riders). I hope Jonty will make a full recovery - I can’t get him out of my head. All good wishes to him and his family
 

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It seems a shame that the flags can cause/contribute to such mishaps when the line is not quite 100% but the horse still tries.
 

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I was there and thought this was a very tough and punishing fence, as were the water fence questions for the one star class. One of the problems was that if a horse left a leg, the fall happened onto the very hard ground at the edge of the water. I love watching eventing but sometimes fences make me feel as if we are just asking too much of horses (and riders). I hope Jonty will make a full recovery - I can’t get him out of my head. All good wishes to him and his family

What did you think of the sunken road?
 
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